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Title: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: nicname on January 22, 2011, 03:23:47 PM
I feel bad for these guys.  I'm pretty sure ck knows that he made this bed.  Jake as well.  Like _Fan said after @MU, these are tough games to win, it is the earlier losses (Vegas, @OSU, CU that are killing us).  Hopefully a nice win at home gives us some momentum.  If the Cats are going to win games it will have to be in games like today. It has to be ugly, defense, and we will have to limit posessions.  The last part sucks because it really is slth like but our weaknesses in wide open, transition basketball are huge. 

Not a moral victory at all, really a crushing blow and hopefully it doesn't discourage a team that I saw give a lot of fight today. 

Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 22, 2011, 03:25:35 PM
This one hurts because we're better than A&M. If this would have been earlier when we were cocky, no contest.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: CatsFan_58 on January 22, 2011, 03:26:19 PM
They all played like retards.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2011, 03:28:49 PM
We gave this game away. aTm is solid, but our dumb play and wasted chances cost us. Plus 2 more mentally weak stretches and double digit runs. This has become the season of dumb decisions and wasted opportunities.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: nicname on January 22, 2011, 03:31:26 PM
We gave this game away. aTm is solid, but our dumb play and wasted chances cost us. Plus 2 more mentally weak stretches and double digit runs. This has become the season of dumb decisions and wasted opportunities.

When you hold the home team to 0 fgs for a 6 minute stretch in the second half and cant capitalize there are definitely wasted opportunities on your own end. 

It still sucks.  Meanwhile UT is getting "Allen Fieldhoused."
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: pike on January 22, 2011, 03:31:59 PM
They all played like retards.

This
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: KSU176 on January 22, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
Playing with a little effort means nothing when everyone on the team is stupid and plays like it.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: Acceleration Man on January 22, 2011, 03:33:47 PM
Well... I'll say this. The seniors finally played like seniors tonight, and this was maybe the best overall defensive effort we've had all year. It was really the lack of options on offense (McGruder, where are you?) and the fact that we couldn't keep our mits off in the 2nd half. Maybe the fact that we are overall a young, inexperienced team could account for most of it.

It's frustrating, because we could've had this game and if we hope to get to the NCAA we're going to have to win a few of these from here on out, but it felt a lot more like a hard fought game than a stupid loss.

 :frown: but not  :curse:


[Edit: Moved this over here to consolidate, but I can't delete my own thread, so sorry]
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: michigancat on January 22, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
Pullen was clapping a lot, signifying leadership.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: CatsFan_58 on January 22, 2011, 03:43:02 PM
Pullen was clapping a lot, signifying leadership.
lol
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: Pett on January 22, 2011, 03:45:23 PM
Pullen was clapping a lot, signifying leadership cockiness.

FYP.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: nicname on January 22, 2011, 03:45:25 PM
Pullen was clapping a lot, signifying leadership.

I have a feeling this is tongue-in-cheek, but if not it holds a lot of water.  Positivity is key to winning in sports.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1166959/3/index.htm

Pretty interesting read.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: sys on January 22, 2011, 03:55:33 PM
kstate sucks at rebounding free throws (defensive).  they did great dboarding against a&m's offense but were just crap on the line.  i won't say they gave the game away there, but it certainly had an impact.

this isn't a one game issue, they've been bad before, but i don't recall a team that exploited it as well as a&m.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: EMAWzified on January 22, 2011, 04:02:39 PM
Three possession with about 3 to go when we were tied or down by 2. Lazy, stupid pass for a breakaway layup A&M managed to miss, offensive foul on Samuels and can't remember other possession. No points, no shots. Killed us.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: Andy on January 22, 2011, 04:04:25 PM
Well... I'll say this. The seniors finally played like seniors tonight, and this was maybe the best overall defensive effort we've had all year. It was really the lack of options on offense (McGruder, where are you?) and the fact that we couldn't keep our mits off in the 2nd half. Maybe the fact that we are overall a young, inexperienced team could account for most of it.

It's frustrating, because we could've had this game and if we hope to get to the NCAA we're going to have to win a few of these from here on out, but it felt a lot more like a hard fought game than a stupid loss.

 :frown: but not  :curse:


[Edit: Moved this over here to consolidate, but I can't delete my own thread, so sorry]

we aren't going to the ncaa tournament
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: Acceleration Man on January 22, 2011, 04:04:46 PM
Pullen was clapping a lot, signifying leadership.

Now you're just messin' with me.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 22, 2011, 04:29:35 PM
On the brightside, now that we suck  can spend more time on my hobby...blowing holes in movies.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: wetwillie on January 22, 2011, 04:31:53 PM
Well... I'll say this. The seniors finally played like seniors tonight, and this was maybe the best overall defensive effort we've had all year. It was really the lack of options on offense (McGruder, where are you?) and the fact that we couldn't keep our mits off in the 2nd half. Maybe the fact that we are overall a young, inexperienced team could account for most of it.

It's frustrating, because we could've had this game and if we hope to get to the NCAA we're going to have to win a few of these from here on out, but it felt a lot more like a hard fought game than a stupid loss.

 :frown: but not  :curse:


[Edit: Moved this over here to consolidate, but I can't delete my own thread, so sorry]

we aren't going to the ncaa tournament

yea the sooner a guy can realize this team isn't going dancing the sooner he can move on
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2011, 04:34:03 PM
Well... I'll say this. The seniors finally played like seniors tonight, and this was maybe the best overall defensive effort we've had all year. It was really the lack of options on offense (McGruder, where are you?) and the fact that we couldn't keep our mits off in the 2nd half. Maybe the fact that we are overall a young, inexperienced team could account for most of it.

It's frustrating, because we could've had this game and if we hope to get to the NCAA we're going to have to win a few of these from here on out, but it felt a lot more like a hard fought game than a stupid loss.

 :frown: but not  :curse:


[Edit: Moved this over here to consolidate, but I can't delete my own thread, so sorry]

we aren't going to the ncaa tournament

yea the sooner a guy can realize this team isn't going dancing the sooner he can move on

1 seed in the NIT?  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: catzacker on January 22, 2011, 04:36:34 PM
Well... I'll say this. The seniors finally played like seniors tonight, and this was maybe the best overall defensive effort we've had all year. It was really the lack of options on offense (McGruder, where are you?) and the fact that we couldn't keep our mits off in the 2nd half. Maybe the fact that we are overall a young, inexperienced team could account for most of it.

It's frustrating, because we could've had this game and if we hope to get to the NCAA we're going to have to win a few of these from here on out, but it felt a lot more like a hard fought game than a stupid loss.

 :frown: but not  :curse:


[Edit: Moved this over here to consolidate, but I can't delete my own thread, so sorry]

we aren't going to the ncaa tournament

yea the sooner a guy can realize this team isn't going dancing the sooner he can move on

1 seed in the NIT?  :crossfingers:

you have no idea how bad I want this team to go to the NIT, just so Jake can look like a bitch, either way.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
You have no idea how bad I want this team to go to the NIT, just so Jake can look like a bitch, either way.

At this point barring a miracle, we are going to the NIT.  8-8 (probably get us in) would be really, really tough.
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: felix rex on January 22, 2011, 04:42:26 PM
You have no idea how bad I want this team to go to the NIT, just so Jake can look like a bitch, either way.

At this point barring a miracle, we are going to the NIT.  8-8 (probably get us in) would be really, really tough.

I refuse to believe this. I mean, I'm not arguing with it. I just refuse to believe it.  :frown:
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: unleashthemob on January 22, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
Remember the yards saying we'd win these typed games comfortably with Kelly  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: kso_FAN on January 22, 2011, 04:54:46 PM
Remember the yards saying we'd win these typed games comfortably with Kelly  :horrorsurprise:

Well the problem is not having him and Jake for 6 and 3 games.  You have those guys for those games and things probably look differently right now.  Its almost for sure we would've won UNLV and CU, and perhaps at OSU without the suspensions.  Really.  

Then who knows what kind of confidence we are playing at now instead of fighting for our lives. 

Dillards.  :chainsaw:
Title: Re: This one hurts because the effort was there.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 22, 2011, 08:31:15 PM
kstate sucks at rebounding free throws (defensive). 

Seriously. What the hell was Kelly doing when he'd spin around the guy and get behind him, then spin back? I thought it was some cool, new technique, and then I realized he wasn't getting a single rebound.