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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Basketball is hard => Topic started by: kougar24 on January 18, 2011, 11:12:55 AM
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...but at this point, not sure what to post, ya know?
Why do we look gassed 2 minutes into a game?
Why does Frank hate Irving? (not giving up on that crusade quite yet)
What does Brad Underwood do?
When is the cut-off for Currie to scrutinize the return on Dalonte's salary/presence?
Just grasping at meltdowny straws here.
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you know who's not melting down? the football fans. they're loving the crap out of this, until football season starts.
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I would start with whatevs is happening with wally and his development.
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I would start with whatevs is happening with wally and his development.
I feel like we've already covered the multiple aspects of shittyness surrounding Wallygate.
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Why do we look gassed 2 minutes into a game?
Not sure. I think it varies game to game, and was definitely true in Columbia. Playing hard is really hard to do and its one of the hallmarks of Frank's better teams (besides having 2 NBA players). This year that effort has been inconsistent and so has the team.
Why does Frank hate Irving? (not giving up on that crusade quite yet)
Don't know, but its clear Irving has struggled to earn his trust, or at least lost it at some point. He is one of the more in and out players on the team; 9 games he's played 20 or more minutes. 5 games at 15-19 minutes. 4 games of 5-14 minutes. Plus one DNP. He has good 3PT numbers, but has 10 games where he hasn't hit one, including 8 of the last 9.
What does Brad Underwood do?
It seems clear to me Underwood is Frank's closest coaching source of the staff. Yeah, all the guys do their scout, etc. but when you watch games the one coach Frank turns to for venting is Underwood. He's often turning and seemingly chewing him out, but its common for coaches to have a venting outlet, and Underwood is Franks.
When is the cut-off for Currie to scrutinize the return on Dalonte's salary/presence?
Interesting question. Clearly the fans standard is more 4/5 star kids, but that isn't happening. At the end of the day losing will force Frank/Currie to rethink having one of the highest paid assistants in all of college basketball. And depending on how loyal Frank is to Hill, he may go down with him if it doesn't work.
Just grasping at meltdowny straws here.
I was pretty meh on melting down for MU. I got mine in after OSU and CU and those two forced me to rethink what this team is, and I had little expectation of winning in Columbia. I tend not to get as upset after games where winning is unlikely, its the ones that you "should've won" that end up costing you in the big picture, and we already have two of those. That puts pressure on you to win several that aren't expected, we'll see if we do that. This is a lesson I learned well as a fan throughout Altman/Asbury/Wooly.
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BACK DOOR CUTS!!!!!!!! :curse:
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_FAN, just to be clear, this isn't a reaction from the MU game alone. I've been fairly quiet for the past few weeks because I just can't figure out the proper way/reason to melt down this time around.
But as for the MU game itself; it isn't the loss (we all knew that was coming)...it's yet another scoring drought and total collapse at the end of the halves. 4 points in 8+ minutes? That's rough ridin' ridiculous.
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I just want to know what a realistic expectation for the end of the season is.
7-9 Big 12 :dunno:
1 NIT win :dunno:
1 Big 12 road win :dunno:
I really have no idea what to think anymore.
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I just want to know what a realistic expectation for the end of the season is.
7-9 Big 12 :dunno:
1 NIT win :dunno:
1 Big 12 road win :dunno:
I really have no idea what to think anymore.
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I just want to know what a realistic expectation for the end of the season is.
7-9 Big 12 :dunno:
1 NIT win :dunno:
1 Big 12 road win :dunno:
I really have no idea what to think anymore.
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What does Brad Underwood do?
Piledrives motherfuckers.
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Why do we look gassed 2 minutes into a game?
What does Brad Underwood do?
1. I'm gonna take the powerespect viewing point on this one. I think Frank practices our players too hard. :cyclist:
2. He consoles our players after Frank treats them like complete cac so they don't transfer.
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2. He consoles our players after Frank treats them like complete cac so they don't transfer.
That's working out real well.
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2. He consoles our players after Frank treats them like complete cac so they don't transfer.
That's working out real well.
Underwood may not be bi-lingual. :dunno:
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somebody needs to hook up undy with some spanish classes :ck:
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Another good meltdown talking point: why do our post guys have such bad hands? :dunno:
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Another good meltdown talking point: why do our post guys have such bad hands? :dunno:
Lots of tipping of the rebound. couple instances last night of three of our guys losing to one of MU's due to our tipping and their grabbing.
That said, lots of bigs do this.
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BACK DOOR CUTS!!!!!!!! :curse:
I will never get this one - if it happens a BUNCH of times, gets fixed and we move on - OK. BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY MOTHERFUCKING GAME!!! GOOD LORD!!! :curse: :bang: :blindfold: :chainsaw:
were mumped
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BACK DOOR CUTS!!!!!!!! :curse:
I will never get this one - if it happens a BUNCH of times, gets fixed and we move on - OK. BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY MOTHEReffING GAME!!! GOOD LORD!!! :curse: :bang: :blindfold: :chainsaw:
were effed
My meltdown point occurred during our 3-on-1 fast break :confused:
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BACK DOOR CUTS!!!!!!!! :curse:
I will never get this one - if it happens a BUNCH of times, gets fixed and we move on - OK. BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY MOTHEReffING GAME!!! GOOD LORD!!! :curse: :bang: :blindfold: :chainsaw:
were effed
My meltdown point occurred during our 3-on-1 fast break :confused:
omg, good call. How rough ridin' pathetic was that?
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BACK DOOR CUTS!!!!!!!! :curse:
I will never get this one - if it happens a BUNCH of times, gets fixed and we move on - OK. BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY MOTHEReffING GAME!!! GOOD LORD!!! :curse: :bang: :blindfold: :chainsaw:
were effed
My meltdown point occurred during our 3-on-1 fast break :confused:
Yeah, that was really bad. McGruder had one of his worst games of the year (if not the worst, FL was bad too) and it was highlighted by this travel (when it was a 6 point game) plus missing two FTs a couple minutes earlier (when it was still a 4 point game).
We just aren't going to win when Pullen, McGruder, Samuels, and Kelly ALL have below average games like they did yesterday. At least 3 of those guys have to play well for us to beat upper half teams in this league.
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BACK DOOR CUTS!!!!!!!! :curse:
I will never get this one - if it happens a BUNCH of times, gets fixed and we move on - OK. BUT IT HAPPENS EVERY MOTHEReffING GAME!!! GOOD LORD!!! :curse: :bang: :blindfold: :chainsaw:
were effed
My meltdown point occurred during our 3-on-1 fast break :confused:
Yeah, that was really bad. McGruder had one of his worst games of the year (if not the worst, FL was bad too) and it was highlighted by this travel (when it was a 6 point game) plus missing two FTs a couple minutes earlier (when it was still a 4 point game).
We just aren't going to win when Pullen, McGruder, Samuels, and Kelly ALL have below average games like they did yesterday. At least 3 of those guys have to play well for us to beat upper half teams in this league.
Is that ever going to happen?
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Is that ever going to happen?
Yes, it already has. The question is will happen against anyone besides Texas Tech.
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Why didn't Judge or Russell play yesterday?
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you know who's not melting down? the football fans. they're loving the crap out of this, until football season starts.
It is true that Snyder never/rarely cheers at the MBB games. Just sayin'.
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Why didn't Judge or Russell play yesterday?
Judge knocked an underage girl up, so he has to miss some games from time-to-time to go to the doctors appts. Russell hurt his eye.
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I think we look gassed all the time too.
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Russell is a lost cause.
A big sign of the ability of our coaches will be if Nick is back next year or not. If he is, it really illustrates our inability to get players, imo.
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I just want to know what a realistic expectation for the end of the season is.
7-9 Big 12 :dunno:
1 NIT win :dunno:
1 Big 12 road win :dunno:
I really have no idea what to think anymore.
pomeroy has kstate at 6-10, with a much higher chance for 5-11 than 7-9. if you think kstate is likely to perform better than they have thus far, you could bump them up a little from that. if you think that some future opponents are overrated, you could do the same. luck could swing a couple of games either way.
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Why does Frank hate Irving? (not giving up on that crusade quite yet)
Yep, Juevol also. It's like he loves playing Dr. Frankenstein with the roster. He'll play guys 2 or 3 games, they will play well and then they will disappear for a few games. It would be nice if more than 3 players had defined roles. His practice talking point is pretty stupid.
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So we start running an offense where everyone starts free throw lined extended, and the one guy who doesn't see the floor is the McD AA who appears to be more comfortable away and facing the basket.
I suspect that Wally didn't call out a pick in practice last Thursday so he's in Frank's doghouse.
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So we start running an offense where everyone starts free throw lined extended, and the one guy who doesn't see the floor is the McD AA who appears to be more comfortable away and facing the basket.
I suspect that Wally didn't call out a pick in practice last Thursday so he's in Frank's doghouse.
JHR seems pretty comfy out there too. For the last 5-6 games he seems to prefer the high vs low post.
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So we start running an offense where everyone starts free throw lined extended, and the one guy who doesn't see the floor is the McD AA who appears to be more comfortable away and facing the basket.
I suspect that Wally didn't call out a pick in practice last Thursday so he's in Frank's doghouse.
JHR seems pretty comfy out there too.
And so does Curt, and so does Jamar. All of our bigs are pretty much the same dude. Didn't really understand Dax's point there.
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Uh . . . how about the point of the McD AA who hasn't played 1 minute in the last 2 games.
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And so does Curt, and so does Jamar. All of our bigs are pretty much the same dude. Didn't really understand Dax's point there.
there are maybe 5% of bigs in the world that don't want to either 3s or 1s. they all prefer to be as far from the basket as possible.
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And so does Curt, and so does Jamar. All of our bigs are pretty much the same dude. Didn't really understand Dax's point there.
there are maybe 5% of bigs in the world that don't want to either 3s or 1s. they all prefer to be as far from the basket as possible.
And most 1's want to be be 3's, thus completing the circle of life.
This is more than likely 97% not true, but I like the poetry of it and hey symmetry is a fundamental part of life.
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Uh . . . how about the point of the McD AA who hasn't played 1 minute in the last 2 games.
Not saying that I don't mind seeing him, but he doesn't bring anything unique that the others don't. There isn't anything he does better than anyone else, nothing. We need another face up big, like we need another shooting guard playing point. Freddy as much as I hated him, had the most unique skillset of all of the bigs.
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And so does Curt, and so does Jamar. All of our bigs are pretty much the same dude. Didn't really understand Dax's point there.
there are maybe 5% of bigs in the world that don't want to either 3s or 1s. they all prefer to be as far from the basket as possible.
And most 1's want to be be 3's, thus completing the circle of life.
This is more than likely 97% not true, but I like the poetry of it and hey symmetry is a fundamental part of life.
In fact I am thinking about walking on. I will bang down low and post up. I am willing to sacrifice my professional career and become K-State's much needed big man. I still have 4+ years of eligibility left and according to select services I a projected as a solid 3.5-4 star player.
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Uh . . . how about the point of the McD AA who hasn't played 1 minute in the last 2 games.
Not saying that I don't mind seeing him, but he doesn't bring anything unique that the others don't. There isn't anything he does better than anyone else, nothing. We need another face up big, like we need another shooting guard playing point. Freddy as much as I hated him, had the most unique skillset of all of the bigs.
It's never going to "click" for Wally if he never see's the floor. Kelly gave K-State nothing last night besides 6 turnovers and the usual :ck: fouls, in all of that Wally see's not 1 minute of PT?? Really??
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not getting wally in for the end of the half after CK picked up his 2nd foul was maddening - I would think treating Wally like a JAG would "teach a lesson" more than anything else?
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JHR played awesome. CK and Jamar are light years better than Wally. Everyone bitches when our shitty players play, unless that player is Wally. They bitch when he doesn't play.
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Nobody said Wally had to go in a gobble up minutes, but not 1 minute??
This really isn't that hard.
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Nobody said Wally had to go in a gobble up minutes, but not 1 minute??
what difference does a minute make?
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Not just a minute, a few minutes.
Anyway . . . he goes from getting tons of minute, by necessity I understand, but still . . . too none.
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Nobody said Wally had to go in a gobble up minutes, but not 1 minute??
what difference does a minute make?
well, we did see :ck: :ck: in the last minute of the half :users:
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jhr played fine. in the new offense, there aren't as many minutes for bigs anyways.
if you want to bitch about minutes, why not use russell? seems like replacing some of the shitty guards' minutes with russell minutes might have had more upside than replacing jhr's best ever minutes with judge minutes
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Who said Wally had to use JHR's minutes??
How about replace some of :ck:
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because kelly is clearly kstate's best big.
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Not just a minute, a few minutes.
Anyway . . . he goes from getting tons of minute, by necessity I understand, but still . . . too none.
Dax your posts are usually pretty awesome, but your grammar is usually pretty awful.