let's do a fun political quiz again

[Rage Against the McKee]

88% Ted Cruz
84% Rick Santorum
84% Marco Rubio
81% Scott Walker
80% Rand Paul
65% Jeb Bush
59% Ben Carson
58% Donald Trump
46% Hillary Clinton
23% Bernie Sanders

This is what big government looks like.

I think you are confused about what big government means. Bernie Sanders is 100% big government. The top of this list is people who support small government. Less regulation, less control federally.

Sanders' socialist ideals mean complete control federally and as big a government as you can get without going full fascist.

Your list supports less regulation of business, but more regulation of individuals.

I tend to disagree, I don't see how they would be adding more regulation on individuals. Top most being my boy Ted Cruz, but the top of that list are for less federal regulation all together. It is there thought, and my own, that the federal government should only protect individual property and rights, protect national security, and enforce rule of law.

What regulations do you think they would be putting on individuals?

Regulations on which drugs you can and cannot use and under what conditions, regulations on who you are able to marry, regulations on who is allowed to be in the country and under what conditions, etc.

[sys]

anything less than 86% bernie is a fascist, and anything more than 89% is a commie.

[CNS]

Fact

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[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Hmmmmmmm.....

[Rage Against the McKee]

 

[puniraptor]

It's like that one Facebook test that said every single person should live in Portland

[star seed 7]

 

[Asteriskhead]

rage is behaving a lot calmer than I would.

[Yard Dog]

88% Ted Cruz
84% Rick Santorum
84% Marco Rubio
81% Scott Walker
80% Rand Paul
65% Jeb Bush
59% Ben Carson
58% Donald Trump
46% Hillary Clinton
23% Bernie Sanders

This is what big government looks like.

I think you are confused about what big government means. Bernie Sanders is 100% big government. The top of this list is people who support small government. Less regulation, less control federally.

Sanders' socialist ideals mean complete control federally and as big a government as you can get without going full fascist.

Your list supports less regulation of business, but more regulation of individuals.

I tend to disagree, I don't see how they would be adding more regulation on individuals. Top most being my boy Ted Cruz, but the top of that list are for less federal regulation all together. It is there thought, and my own, that the federal government should only protect individual property and rights, protect national security, and enforce rule of law.

What regulations do you think they would be putting on individuals?

Regulations on which drugs you can and cannot use and under what conditions, regulations on who you are able to marry, regulations on who is allowed to be in the country and under what conditions, etc.

To be fair the more libertarian candidates on that list are more open to letting drug regulations drop. Though I still struggle with letting hard drugs just be legal. I don't think that is a positive thing. I support reducing penalties for non-violent drug crimes, you'd be surprised to find that several of the GOP candidates are on board with that as well.

The marriage thing is ludicrous. I have many friends who are batting for the other team and think that needing the word "marriage" attached to their unions is completely unnecessary. They just want the same rights. If you proposed a situation where it was a legal union but not called marriage you'd be just fine and everyone would be getting what they want. From my understanding it is only the loud majority that are desperate for the word marriage.

And on your final point, the actual desire has nothing to do with building a wall. Trump is placating to a select few with that nonsense. It is much more along the lines of making the immigration process less difficult, but not telling people who came here illegally that they are ok. It might not be fair right now, but illegal immigration is still that. Illegal.

[8manpick]

88% Ted Cruz
84% Rick Santorum
84% Marco Rubio
81% Scott Walker
80% Rand Paul
65% Jeb Bush
59% Ben Carson
58% Donald Trump
46% Hillary Clinton
23% Bernie Sanders

This is what big government looks like.

I think you are confused about what big government means. Bernie Sanders is 100% big government. The top of this list is people who support small government. Less regulation, less control federally.

Sanders' socialist ideals mean complete control federally and as big a government as you can get without going full fascist.

Your list supports less regulation of business, but more regulation of individuals.

I tend to disagree, I don't see how they would be adding more regulation on individuals. Top most being my boy Ted Cruz, but the top of that list are for less federal regulation all together. It is there thought, and my own, that the federal government should only protect individual property and rights, protect national security, and enforce rule of law.

What regulations do you think they would be putting on individuals?

Regulations on which drugs you can and cannot use and under what conditions, regulations on who you are able to marry, regulations on who is allowed to be in the country and under what conditions, etc.

The marriage thing is ludicrous. I have many friends who are batting for the other team and think that needing the word "marriage" attached to their unions is completely unnecessary. They just want the same rights. If you proposed a situation where it was a legal union but not called marriage you'd be just fine and everyone would be getting what they want. From my understanding it is only the loud majority that are desperate for the word marriage.

Your understanding is not remotely correct.

[star seed 7]

 

[Yard Dog]

88% Ted Cruz
84% Rick Santorum
84% Marco Rubio
81% Scott Walker
80% Rand Paul
65% Jeb Bush
59% Ben Carson
58% Donald Trump
46% Hillary Clinton
23% Bernie Sanders

This is what big government looks like.

I think you are confused about what big government means. Bernie Sanders is 100% big government. The top of this list is people who support small government. Less regulation, less control federally.

Sanders' socialist ideals mean complete control federally and as big a government as you can get without going full fascist.

Your list supports less regulation of business, but more regulation of individuals.

I tend to disagree, I don't see how they would be adding more regulation on individuals. Top most being my boy Ted Cruz, but the top of that list are for less federal regulation all together. It is there thought, and my own, that the federal government should only protect individual property and rights, protect national security, and enforce rule of law.

What regulations do you think they would be putting on individuals?

Regulations on which drugs you can and cannot use and under what conditions, regulations on who you are able to marry, regulations on who is allowed to be in the country and under what conditions, etc.

The marriage thing is ludicrous. I have many friends who are batting for the other team and think that needing the word "marriage" attached to their unions is completely unnecessary. They just want the same rights. If you proposed a situation where it was a legal union but not called marriage you'd be just fine and everyone would be getting what they want. From my understanding it is only the loud majority that are desperate for the word marriage.

Your understanding is not remotely correct.

Please enlighten me.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Regulations on what you are allowed to call your marriage . . .

[0.42]

Hmmmmmmm.....

 

[8manpick]

88% Ted Cruz
84% Rick Santorum
84% Marco Rubio
81% Scott Walker
80% Rand Paul
65% Jeb Bush
59% Ben Carson
58% Donald Trump
46% Hillary Clinton
23% Bernie Sanders

This is what big government looks like.

I think you are confused about what big government means. Bernie Sanders is 100% big government. The top of this list is people who support small government. Less regulation, less control federally.

Sanders' socialist ideals mean complete control federally and as big a government as you can get without going full fascist.

Your list supports less regulation of business, but more regulation of individuals.

I tend to disagree, I don't see how they would be adding more regulation on individuals. Top most being my boy Ted Cruz, but the top of that list are for less federal regulation all together. It is there thought, and my own, that the federal government should only protect individual property and rights, protect national security, and enforce rule of law.

What regulations do you think they would be putting on individuals?

Regulations on which drugs you can and cannot use and under what conditions, regulations on who you are able to marry, regulations on who is allowed to be in the country and under what conditions, etc.

The marriage thing is ludicrous. I have many friends who are batting for the other team and think that needing the word "marriage" attached to their unions is completely unnecessary. They just want the same rights. If you proposed a situation where it was a legal union but not called marriage you'd be just fine and everyone would be getting what they want. From my understanding it is only the loud majority that are desperate for the word marriage.

Your understanding is not remotely correct.

Please enlighten me.

Homosexuals, or as you say, "people batting for the other team", would like to be treated equally. This includes, but is not limited to, calling their legal union "marriage" just like heterosexuals ("teammates" in your lexicon).

[Yard Dog]

88% Ted Cruz
84% Rick Santorum
84% Marco Rubio
81% Scott Walker
80% Rand Paul
65% Jeb Bush
59% Ben Carson
58% Donald Trump
46% Hillary Clinton
23% Bernie Sanders

This is what big government looks like.

I think you are confused about what big government means. Bernie Sanders is 100% big government. The top of this list is people who support small government. Less regulation, less control federally.

Sanders' socialist ideals mean complete control federally and as big a government as you can get without going full fascist.

Your list supports less regulation of business, but more regulation of individuals.

I tend to disagree, I don't see how they would be adding more regulation on individuals. Top most being my boy Ted Cruz, but the top of that list are for less federal regulation all together. It is there thought, and my own, that the federal government should only protect individual property and rights, protect national security, and enforce rule of law.

What regulations do you think they would be putting on individuals?

Regulations on which drugs you can and cannot use and under what conditions, regulations on who you are able to marry, regulations on who is allowed to be in the country and under what conditions, etc.

The marriage thing is ludicrous. I have many friends who are batting for the other team and think that needing the word "marriage" attached to their unions is completely unnecessary. They just want the same rights. If you proposed a situation where it was a legal union but not called marriage you'd be just fine and everyone would be getting what they want. From my understanding it is only the loud majority that are desperate for the word marriage.

Your understanding is not remotely correct.

Please enlighten me.

Homosexuals, or as you say, "people batting for the other team", would like to be treated equally. This includes, but is not limited to, calling their legal union "marriage" just like heterosexuals ("teammates" in your lexicon).

"treated equally" means what do you think? To me it means that both sides are found to be in a situation that allows them to continue to live their lives free. Would that be correct for you? It would also be fair that the government's responsibility are civic. The founding fathers were not after a government that could tell people what they could and could not believe.

The word "marriage" is arbitrary. If the word marriage is sacred to a christian who in turn things it is between a man and a woman that make his view point different from yours sure. What true equality is gained for both sides (definition of equal) by forcing people to change their moral beliefs? That is not what was intended by government power. That is why all the government should be able to do is change its civil structure. This would allow all the same rights to civil unions whether they be between people of differing or the same gender.

[8manpick]

Marriage isn't Christian you dolt, it's legal

[Yard Dog]

Marriage isn't Christian you dolt, it's legal

the word "marriage" is arbitrary. What possible benefit could causing controversy have to the situation? I dont care if everyone can "get married" but at any point in time that our religious freedoms are being limited we should be just as outraged as if it was any other freedoms.

This country was built on the idea that the government could not tell us what to believe.

[8manpick]

Whose religious freedom is being limited?

[star seed 7]

You have absolutely no idea what you are saying yard dog

[8manpick]

This is the wrong thread and isn't worth the effort

[Yard Dog]

Whose religious freedom is being limited?

Anyone that would rather not provide a service to a homosexual couple because it goes against their beliefs. This situation might not be black and white so it in turn shouldn't be discussed that way. I don't support discrimination, but I also do not support a bakery having to close its doors because they didn't want to make a cake for someone.

A private business owner should have the right to refuse business to anyone. In a truly free market, if they are refusing business on a discriminatory standard than it will hurt their business and a competitor can arise to take that business and be successful.

You have absolutely no idea what you are saying yard dog

I know plenty about what I am saying. And, true to point, the liberals would rather attack me than have an open conversation. I have never understood this strategy. Growth comes from debate and discussion.

[Yard Dog]

This is the wrong thread and isn't worth the effort

Truer words have never been spoken. Until there is a place where opposing sides can have a real conversation, it is a complete waste of time. I respect your viewpoints are different from mine. But I am still flabbergasted that someone thinks that Ted Cruz is big government. (that's what started this whole thing)

Ted Cruz 2016!! WOOT

[8manpick]

Whose religious freedom is being limited?

Anyone that would rather not provide a service to a homosexual couple because it goes against their beliefs. This situation might not be black and white so it in turn shouldn't be discussed that way. I don't support discrimination, but I also do not support a bakery having to close its doors because they didn't want to make a cake for someone.

A private business owner should have the right to refuse business to anyone. In a truly free market, if they are refusing business on a discriminatory standard than it will hurt their business and a competitor can arise to take that business and be successful.

You have absolutely no idea what you are saying yard dog

I know plenty about what I am saying. And, true to point, the liberals would rather attack me than have an open conversation. I have never understood this strategy. Growth comes from debate and discussion.

We were talking about marriage, and for some reason you are talking about bakeries and businesses.

[star seed 7]

You having no idea what you're talking about isn't an attack, I'm trying to motivate you into not having no idea what you're talking about