State of the State - case closed, money is bad for schools

[Rage Against the McKee]

Wait - is there a bill to sign? Last I heard, the Chamber GOP and Conservative GOP can't agree on which taxes to increase, and nobody (at least in leadership) has the guts to bring spending cuts to the floor for a vote.

I wonder if there is any precedent for this sort of budget impasse when one party so completely dominates the Legislature and Executive? It would actually be pretty amusing but for, you know, the liklihood of higher taxes.

It seems like tax hikes are inevitable. The only debate is over who gets to take on the burden. Poor people seemed like the likely candidate, but they couldn't pass the sin tax, so who really knows where the revenue will come from.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Wait - is there a bill to sign? Last I heard, the Chamber GOP and Conservative GOP can't agree on which taxes to increase, and nobody (at least in leadership) has the guts to bring spending cuts to the floor for a vote.

I wonder if there is any precedent for this sort of budget impasse when one party so completely dominates the Legislature and Executive? It would actually be pretty amusing but for, you know, the liklihood of higher taxes.

It seems like tax hikes are inevitable. The only debate is over who gets to take on the burden. Poor people seemed like the likely candidate, but they couldn't pass the sin tax, so who really knows where the revenue will come from.

I like the regressive nature of a sales tax, but it still means I end up paying more in taxes, too. So that's out. About the only tax I support is booze and cigarettes, but that's not going to raise $400 million. We should just cut our spending by 6% across the board. Problem solved. (Well, at least until the Supreme Court says we can't cut school spending, at which point it's finally time for the legislature to tell the Court "thanks for your advice - now eff off and leave the power of the purse to us, where it belongs").

[Rage Against the McKee]

Wait - is there a bill to sign? Last I heard, the Chamber GOP and Conservative GOP can't agree on which taxes to increase, and nobody (at least in leadership) has the guts to bring spending cuts to the floor for a vote.

I wonder if there is any precedent for this sort of budget impasse when one party so completely dominates the Legislature and Executive? It would actually be pretty amusing but for, you know, the liklihood of higher taxes.

It seems like tax hikes are inevitable. The only debate is over who gets to take on the burden. Poor people seemed like the likely candidate, but they couldn't pass the sin tax, so who really knows where the revenue will come from.

I like the regressive nature of a sales tax, but it still means I end up paying more in taxes, too. So that's out. About the only tax I support is booze and cigarettes, but that's not going to raise $400 million. We should just cut our spending by 6% across the board. Problem solved. (Well, at least until the Supreme Court says we can't cut school spending, at which point it's finally time for the legislature to tell the Court "thanks for your advice - now eff off and leave the power of the purse to us, where it belongs").

They should drop the sales tax to 0 on food and jack it up on everything else. Then I could just not buy anything in Kansas and get a huge tax break.

[Jabeez]

Hey, so now that ks sold 1 billion in bonds, to get the teachers pension funding ratio up to 66% from 60% it's totally viable now long term, right?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Hey, so now that ks sold 1 billion in bonds, to get the teachers pension funding ratio up to 66% from 60% it's totally viable now long term, right?

Does that make it more or less solvent than Social Security of Medicaid? I'm guessing "more." At least until we cut the pensions. We should cut those. Then we can spend more education dollars on education, amiright?

[CNS]

We should legalize sports gambling.  Sam wants to bring jobs, that would make crap explode.  Fast.

Also, legalize weed and prostitution and become the largest tourist state in the union.

[Rage Against the McKee]

We should legalize sports gambling.  Sam wants to bring jobs, that would make crap explode.  Fast.

Also, legalize weed and prostitution and become the largest tourist state in the union.

blow, too

[CNS]

Sure.  Why not.  Legalize, regulate, tax, profit.   

Seems like a no brainer. 

Cons need to get out of the way and let this state prosper.

[star seed 7]

They love job killing regulations more than having a rich ass state

[Rage Against the McKee]

Just think of all of the Colorado residents that would come and support our businesses if we had legalized blow.

[ednksu]

swing and another miss on those June tax revenues.  Missing the mark by 20 million.  Good thing Brownback's responsible, run it like a household philosophy, asked for a 840 home equity loan. 

[CNS]

Yep, and the courts mushed his fat face and now his budget woes just grew by approx $50mil per yr. 

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[Dugout DickStone]

Just think of all of the Colorado residents that would come and support our businesses if we had legalized blow.

Just think of all the work I'd get done!

[illBisonYourdele]

did we ever figure out what was wrong with the school funding formula?

like...not the result being less (or more) than it ought be.  but the formula itself? whats wrong (or correct) about it?

[CNS]

did we ever figure out what was wrong with the school funding formula?

like...not the result being less (or more) than it ought be.  but the formula itself? whats wrong (or correct) about it?

Same as the last couple years.  The court didn't think it was an adequate amt per kid.  this ruling also said that it was unconstitutional to change the funding from $/kid to block grants.  They said basing it on something other than $/kid would mean the state wouldn't be providing an equal ed to all students. 

[Kat Kid]

This is a recommendation of the ks education efficiency study that was commissioned by the ks legislature and contracted to an outside consultant.

There were actually some good recommendos, but this.  My God, this.

https://twitter.com/BryanLowry3/status/686957002270978052

[ednksu]

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article54370945.html

[ednksu]

http://kac.org/media/media/release-brownback-budget-recommends-dismantling-of-kansas-early-childhood-legacy/

Oh man Brownback to dismantle early childhood programs.

[Cire]

All those kids are just sucking the teet dry


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[slobber]

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article54370945.html

Is that what is normally considered a fact check? Not defending Sam, but "true, but let's try to kind of say he is full of crap" is not "true" or "false" which I think of when I think of a fact check.


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[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Not really worth it's own thread, so here's good enough.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/01/20/teacher-sickouts-expected-to-close-many-detroit-schools-wednesday/

DETROIT (WWJ) – Mass teacher sickouts have prompted nearly all of Detroit Public Schools to close on the day President Barack Obama is set to visit the city.

More than 85 schools across the city are closed Wednesday because of excessive teacher absences — the largest in a string of recent sickouts meant to call attention to high class sizes, dilapidated buildings and other problems in Michigan’s largest school district. [COMPLETE LIST HERE]

DPS officials say they have “no other option but to close schools when teachers do not report for work.” Michelle Zdrodowski, DPS spokesperson, said staff members at the schools which have closed must still report for work Wednesday or take a personal leave day. Otherwise, staff could face disciplinary action as most of the district’s 46,000 students sit at home.

Zdrodowski said the call-offs have left just nine school buildings open across the district.

It's fascinating to me that teachers think this sort of behavior is ok - that you can just stage a walk out, shut down your business, and not face any repercussions.

I've never worked in a job where I would ever think I could do this without getting fired.

[CNS]

Unionize, KSU.  The world will be your oyster. 

It should be noted that not all states have unionized public employees.

[star seed 7]

Maybe if ksuw unionizes he would get some decent health insurance that he's always bitching about

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Maybe if ksuw unionizes he would get some decent health insurance that he's always bitching about

Did I bitch about my insurance? My insurance is great. Actually, my wife and separately insure so we get HSA contributions from both our employers. It's a pretty sweet deal.

[star seed 7]

I'm glad you got it worked out,I know obamacare had really knocked you for a loop for a bit.