Author Topic: Pope doesn't speak for all Christians (Read 12953 times)

sys · « **Reply #100 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:22:51 PM »

"give unto" sounds stupid. it's "render unto".

mocat · « **Reply #101 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:23:54 PM »

it means the same thing in this case. don't cloud the issue

star seed 7 · « **Reply #102 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:25:38 PM »

I didn't even consider that slobber thought Jesus was lying, interesting take mocat.

mocat · « **Reply #103 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:28:23 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on October 02, 2015, 02:25:38 PM

I didn't even consider that slobber thought Jesus was lying, interesting take mocat.

not so much lying. dobber thought Jesus was just outclevering what was intended to be a clever question, without really saying anything.

slobber · « **Reply #104 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:28:40 PM »

Jesus is big fat liar!!!!

^{(Jesus, you know I am just kidding. I'd like to think that you have a sense of humor...maybe you could share some of that with some of these non-believers on gE? Thank you. Amen)}

sys · « **Reply #105 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:29:21 PM »

language is never a side issue, mocat.

mocat · « **Reply #106 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:30:37 PM »

listen i like renderings as much as the next cat fan, but this is not the appropriate thread

sys · « **Reply #107 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:34:46 PM »

besides, they are not exact synonyms. render has the connotation of returning or giving something back or of giving something in exchange for something else while give is more universal and has more of a charitable connotation.

an important distinction, with respect to caesar's coin, mocat, my friend.

slobber · « **Reply #108 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:35:05 PM »

Quote from: mocat on October 02, 2015, 02:28:23 PM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on October 02, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
I didn't even consider that slobber thought Jesus was lying, interesting take mocat.

not so much lying. dobber thought Jesus was just outclevering what was intended to be a clever question, without really saying anything.

I am pretty sure Jesus didn't feel the need to get in pissing matches, so outclevering is probably not how I would characterize it. It is the phrase immediately after the famous Caesar phrase that I think is more important.

Jesus was pretty amazing. He handled crap like this everyday. My feeble mind is exhausted from this simple back and forth!

star seed 7 · « **Reply #109 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:36:56 PM »

I think they both interact coequally, slobber. Why do you think the paying taxes part is easily dismissed?

sys · « **Reply #110 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:38:28 PM »

Quote from: slobber on October 02, 2015, 02:35:05 PM

Jesus was pretty amazing. He handled crap like this everyday. My feeble mind is exhausted from this simple back and forth!

keep in mind that a lot of the people he was talking with had never even gone to college. wasn't exactly hard to run circles around people like that.

slobber · « **Reply #111 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:39:21 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on October 02, 2015, 02:36:56 PM

I think they both interact coequally, slobber. Why do you think the paying taxes part is easily dismissed?

I don't think Jesus gave a crap about money.

SdK · « **Reply #112 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:40:38 PM »

Quote from: sys on October 02, 2015, 02:22:51 PM

"give unto" sounds stupid. it's "render unto".

Gmab

star seed 7 · « **Reply #113 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:42:11 PM »

So he was just speaking flippintly (sp?) and

during the first part but gets super cereal about the second part?

mocat · « **Reply #114 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:43:37 PM »

i disagree with dobber

star seed 7 · « **Reply #115 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:44:22 PM »

Are there any other examples of Jesus saying something he didn't really mean?

mocat · « **Reply #116 on:** October 02, 2015, 02:51:30 PM »

just because internet personality slobberksu does not think Jesus meant something does not make it so

slobber · « **Reply #117 on:** October 02, 2015, 03:09:13 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on October 02, 2015, 02:44:22 PM

Are there any other examples of Jesus saying something he didn't really mean?

unimportant and didn't really mean are not the same thing

Gonna win 'em all!

wetwillie · « **Reply #118 on:** October 02, 2015, 03:12:05 PM »

Let's do luke chapter 6 next

steve dave · « **Reply #119 on:** October 02, 2015, 03:14:37 PM »

if he ever said anything about any of this he wasn't speaking English and arguing about what English word is the closest to what he would have said to decide if this ancient guy thought people should pay their taxes when he possibly had some conversation and it was written down later by someone who probably wasn't there if it did happen is so stupid my eyes fell out from reading it.

Fedor · « **Reply #120 on:** October 02, 2015, 03:17:20 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on October 02, 2015, 03:14:37 PM

if he ever said anything about any of this he wasn't speaking English and arguing about what English word is the closest to what he would have said to decide if this ancient guy thought people should pay their taxes when he possibly had some conversation and it was written down later by someone who probably wasn't there if it did happen is so stupid my eyes fell out from reading it.

Great! SD is blind, are you guys happy now??!!

sys · « **Reply #121 on:** October 02, 2015, 03:18:20 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on October 02, 2015, 03:14:37 PM

if he ever said anything about any of this he wasn't speaking English and arguing about what English word is the closest to what he would have said to decide if this ancient guy thought people should pay their taxes when he possibly had some conversation and it was written down later by someone who probably wasn't there if it did happen is so stupid my eyes fell out from reading it.

you're wrong. translation is as important as composition. maybe more so. and whether it happened or not is beside the point.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #122 on:** October 02, 2015, 03:20:16 PM »

The "truth" of the bible is moot due to its influence

Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) · « **Reply #123 on:** October 03, 2015, 08:41:29 AM »

Libtards love him because he made some passing remarks about protecting the environment and the state helping the destitute. Which is hilarious because virtually everything else he says is stuff that ordinarily gets them rioting and sending death threats and trying to pass anti first amendment censorship legislation. But libtards gonna libtard

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #124 on:** October 09, 2015, 10:59:38 AM »