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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Kat Kid on February 04, 2014, 03:30:17 PM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/study-abortion-rate-at-lowest-point-since-1973/2014/02/02/8dea007c-8a9b-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/study-abortion-rate-at-lowest-point-since-1973/2014/02/02/8dea007c-8a9b-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html)
maybe if we did provide free contraception for everyone, we could save a lot more lives?
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There's three types of people when it comes to free contraception:
Reasonable people who will agree with it
People who disagree with it depending on who's proposing it
People who believe contraception = murder
2 and 3 outnumber 1 in a lot of areas in the country.
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There's three types of people when it comes to free contraception:
Reasonable people who will agree with it
People who disagree with it depending on who's proposing it
People who believe contraception = murder
2 and 3 outnumber 1 in a lot of areas in the country.
Reasonable people that oppose it depending on who's paying for it?
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Sounds like the ProLife crowd is more effectively getting their message out. Really changing things. Good for them.
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Unfortunately, one of the contributing factors to the abortion rate going down is that many states have literally restricted access by closing clinics.
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There's three types of people when it comes to free contraception:
Reasonable people who will agree with it
People who disagree with it depending on who's proposing it
People who believe contraception = murder
2 and 3 outnumber 1 in a lot of areas in the country.
Reasonable people that oppose it depending on who's paying for it?
Nevermind that contraceptions lead to cost savings.
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If I told you we could drastically reduce the number of murders of precious, innocent babies in the United States, would your first quibble be over how much the program would cost?
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Who's proposing this kk?
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Who's proposing this kk?
me.
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I really think abortion is horrible (with the obvious exceptions), and I think KK's proposal sounds great.
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If I told you we could drastically reduce the number of murders of precious, innocent babies in the United States, would your first quibble be over how much the program would cost?
Says the gas chamber salesman to Hitler.
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Hey KK, you know what's great about this country? Freedom, including freedom of religion. If for religious reasons someone disagrees with something that's okay.
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Hey KK, you know what's great about this country? Freedom, including freedom of religion. If for religious reasons someone disagrees with something that's okay.
wrong thread?
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DNR posted link but the story on cnn said that the rated dropped in all but four states. The four states were alaska, idaho, and two other super red states. Weird. Keep it in your pants you creepy ultra cons.
Also, probably related, alaska has a rape occurance rate somethink like three times the national avg.
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alaska has a rape occurance rate somethink like three times the national avg.
well it's an absolute sausage fest up there. enter at your own risk
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Wait, you actually think the government offering free contraceptives (which are already practically free) is going to have any effect on the abortion rate?
Well I was going to use a condom, but I couldn't dig 75 cents out of my couch cushions, so I just decided to bare back it and not pull out. eff! Better dig a couple hundo out of the couch cushion so I can pay to have my unborn child's skull crushed and vacuumed out of my wife's uterus to be thrown away as medical waste.
Yeah, I was going to get on birth control until I found out it was $7 a month and I had to go to the clinic to get a script for it. So I said eff-it, humped around anyways, didn't buy condoms either cuz they're like $4 a box, and let some rando splooge inside of me. eff! Had to sell all the savings bonds my grandma gave me to afford, yet another, abortion down at "planned parenthood".
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hormonal birth control is not $7/mo without health insurance. condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
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hormonal birth control is not $7/mo without health insurance. condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Pffft, okie dokie
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.
As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.
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alaska has a rape occurance rate somethink like three times the national avg.
well it's an absolute sausage fest up there. enter at your own risk
Palin country
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.
As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.
There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny. I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing. And if we can by giving them free birth control pills that they wouldn't otherwise buy, do it yesterday.
But I am glad to see you are on board with the morning after pill. Some psychos are against that
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There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny. I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing. And if we can by giving them free birth control pills that they wouldn't otherwise buy, do it yesterday.
This
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condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.
I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.
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condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.
I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.
The pull-out method is more effective than condoms. Too bad we can't teach people that in school.
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condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.
I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.
The pull-out method is more effective than condoms. Too bad we can't teach people that in school.
You guys buy chinese condoms at the Dollar General?
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.
As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.
There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny. I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing. And if we can by giving them free birth control pills that they wouldn't otherwise buy, do it yesterday.
But I am glad to see you are on board with the morning after pill. Some psychos are against that
If they're that stupid, then they're too stupid to take the pills with the required regularity. Next solution?
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IUDs
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so.... our argument is to forget about contraception because people don't want to/ won't use it. yea, that seems smart.
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condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.
I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.
The pull-out method is more effective than condoms. Too bad we can't teach people that in school.
That seems untrue. Do you have a source?
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 4 will become pregnant each year if they always do it correctly.
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 27 will become pregnant each year if they don't always do it correctly.
Each year, 2 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they always use condoms correctly.
Each year, 18 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they don't always use condoms correctly.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/condom-10187.htm (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/condom-10187.htm)
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.
As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.
There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny. I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing. And if we can by giving them free birth control pills that they wouldn't otherwise buy, do it yesterday.
But I am glad to see you are on board with the morning after pill. Some psychos are against that
If they're that stupid, then they're too stupid to take the pills with the required regularity. Next solution?
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condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.
I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.
The pull-out method is more effective than condoms. Too bad we can't teach people that in school.
That seems untrue. Do you have a source?
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 4 will become pregnant each year if they always do it correctly.
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 27 will become pregnant each year if they don't always do it correctly.
Each year, 2 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they always use condoms correctly.
Each year, 18 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they don't always use condoms correctly.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/condom-10187.htm (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/condom-10187.htm)
You're right. I got my numbers wrong. Should've said is about as effective as condoms with the obvious caveats about a) no protection from STDs b) correct use.
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There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny. I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing.
This
Lebensunwertes Leben.
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Here at goE its okay to say all poors are stupid and we should do everything we can to prevent them from procreating.
What a refreshing viewpoint. :flush:
But yeah, mods keep slapping "racist piece of crap" on posters who disagree with your naive and perverted pov, rough ridin' hypocrites
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Here at goE its okay to say all poors are stupid and we should do everything we can to prevent them from procreating.
What a refreshing viewpoint. :flush:
But yeah, mods keep slapping "racist piece of crap" on posters who disagree with your naive and perverted pov, rough ridin' hypocrites
Can someone explain the difference btwn "All" and "a % of" to this guy?
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Here at goE its okay to say all poors are stupid and we should do everything we can to prevent them from procreating.
What a refreshing viewpoint. :flush:
But yeah, mods keep slapping "racist piece of crap" on posters who disagree with your naive and perverted pov, rough ridin' hypocrites
Can someone explain the difference btwn "All" and "a % of" to this guy?
He wouldn't get it
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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I personally know a few ppl that fit the description exactly. They by themselves equate to "a % of" because math, and I am making a radical assumption that they aren't alone.
Racist POS me if that is wrong.
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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My point was illegitimate kids are not always a positive for those people in the lower income groups. And they won't buy birth control so they should have access to it for free.
Or at least the morning after pill
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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I personally know a few ppl that fit the description exactly. They by themselves equate to "a % of" because math, and I am making a radical assumption that they aren't alone.
Racist POS me if that is wrong.
Nice. I would love to see this board's reaction if FSD had said that.
Lebensunwertes Leben.
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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I personally know a few ppl that fit the description exactly. They by themselves equate to "a % of" because math, and I am making a radical assumption that they aren't alone.
Racist POS me if that is wrong.
Nice. I would love to see this board's reaction if FSD had said that.
Lebensunwertes Leben.
Yeah, trying to provide those with lower income free medical care is a real controversial position
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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My point was illegitimate kids are not always a positive for those people in the lower income groups. And they won't buy birth control so they should have access to it for free.
Or at least the morning after pill
That's different than "I want to stop people from procreating if I think they are stupid and poor" which is different than "poor people should get free healthcare". I suspected your point was as you re-stated. I was more surprised by the folks that agreed with your original statement.
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DC, taking the statement as needing to keep poor ppl from having kids is lazy.
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Would someone explain it to me, or at least explain why "a % of" instead of "all" makes it an
acceptable viewpoint?
For the record, I suspect limestone's comment was a bit tongue in cheek and the part I didn't quote makes it less offensive.
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My point was illegitimate kids are not always a positive for those people in the lower income groups. And they won't buy birth control so they should have access to it for free.
Or at least the morning after pill
That's different than "I want to stop people from procreating if I think they are stupid and poor" which is different than "poor people should get free healthcare". I suspected your point was as you re-stated. I was more surprised by the folks that agreed with your original statement.
If I wanted that, I would advocate some type of temporary sterilization for those who receive gov aid.
I just want widely available BC
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condoms have a pretty high failure rate.
Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.
I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.
The pull-out method is more effective than condoms. Too bad we can't teach people that in school.
That seems untrue. Do you have a source?
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 4 will become pregnant each year if they always do it correctly.
Of every 100 women whose partners use withdrawal, 27 will become pregnant each year if they don't always do it correctly.
Each year, 2 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they always use condoms correctly.
Each year, 18 out of 100 women whose partners use condoms will become pregnant if they don't always use condoms correctly.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/condom-10187.htm (http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/birth-control/condom-10187.htm)
You're right. I got my numbers wrong. Should've said is about HALF as effective as condoms with the obvious caveats about a) no protection from STDs b) correct use.
FYP
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DC, taking the statement as needing to keep poor ppl from having kids is lazy.
I'd say too literal more than lazy. But you endorsed the statement before limestone clarified, so what did you interpret the following statement to mean?:
"I'd love to prevent [a percentage of the population that is broke, dumb as eff, and incredibly horny] from further procreating"
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I don't need him to define such a statement to me. I understand the discussion is about availability rather than mandatory. Anyone following this issue should be able to put aside reactionary talking points and realise that.
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I don't need him to define such a statement to me. I understand the discussion is about availability rather than mandatory. Anyone following this issue should be able to put aside reactionary talking points and realise that.
There will always be a % of the population that are dumbasses pretending to be intellectuals.
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I don't need him to define such a statement to me. I understand the discussion is about availability rather than mandatory. Anyone following this issue should be able to put aside reactionary talking points and realise that.
There will always be a % of the population that are dumbasses pretending to be intellectuals.
Nuh uh, you are.
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A lot of really horrible people being outed in this thread. The equivalent of the I hate n#gg#rs but am okay with black people is alive and well with so-called "poors"
Congrats, bigots :flush:
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Sometimes I think the need to keep posts short so that you don't get DNR'ed keeps others from understanding what is being posted.
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I would views the % of people who "shouldn't" have kids is relatively static across all income demographics, and the availability of "free BC" on those percentages would be about the same as the increase in "sugar bugs" if free candycanes were provided to the public.
If you aren't walking to the corner walgreens to spend $3 onrubbers, you sure as eff aren't taking the bus across town tovet them for free at the clinic. Get serious retards. Maybe if we had a govt. paid for trojan man go door to door. . .
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if you guys say withdrawal one more time, I''m going to demand an NSFW tag for this thread.
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widely available and easily accessible birth control =/= eugenics
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I would views the % of people who "shouldn't" have kids is relatively static across all income demographics, and the availability of "free BC" on those percentages would be about the same as the increase in "sugar bugs" if free candycanes were provided to the public.
If you aren't walking to the corner walgreens to spend $3 onrubbers, you sure as eff aren't taking the bus across town tovet them for free at the clinic. Get serious retards. Maybe if we had a govt. paid for trojan man go door to door. . .
But you would scoop up a handful the one time you were there.
Much like lafene. They'd give out 50+ rubbers at a time for like $2.00.
Is there anything easier than telling who is getting boat raced in a discussion than the guy who brings up race?
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$2 is free? Okay limestone, thanks for proving my point. You're either gonna go get BC or you aren't. Cost is so low it doesn't matter if its free, even to really poor people.
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condoms are not the only form of birth control.
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condoms are not the only form of birth control.
Making News!
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$2 is free? Okay limestone, thanks for proving my point. You're either gonna go get BC or you aren't. Cost is so low it doesn't matter if its free, even to really poor people.
You should get racist more, it at least gives your horrid arguments with no logic some explanation.
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really this whole discussion is stupid since all healthcare (including all contraception) should be free to citizens.
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$2 is free? Okay limestone, thanks for proving my point. You're either gonna go get BC or you aren't. Cost is so low it doesn't matter if its free, even to really poor people.
You should get racist more, it at least gives your horrid arguments with no logic some explanation.
I've got 5000+ posts, find a "racist" one.
While the internet isn't a competition, its been fun pwning you over the last 24 hours, goofball. You should expect that every time you run with a bullshit libtard talking point like, "contraception isn't affordable and widely available". Use your brain bro
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Tap out
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observed.
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.
As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.vox-cdn.com%2Fthumbor%2Fe3v_v8ICuY5cbtOlzYCMPiQGACw%3D%2F800x0%2Ffilters%3Ano_upscale%28%29%2Fcdn1.vox-cdn.com%2Fuploads%2Fchorus_asset%2Ffile%2F2317216%2Fchoice_project.0.png&hash=b0dfc21a372825f39bbe3bfca6671fa23e62c913)
When financial and medical barriers are removed, it turns out teenagers this form of birth control more than they use pills: nearly three-quarters of the CHOICE Project participants in this study used some form of LARC, such as an IUD. Separate research has found that, nationally, just 4.5 percent of teenagers use this method.
Separate programs have had similarly dramatic results: Colorado saw teen birth rates decline 40 percent when it began providing free access to IUDs.
"We found that in a cohort of teenage girls and women for whom barriers to contraception (lack of knowledge, limited access, and cost) are removed and the use of the most effective contraceptive methods is encouraged, a large percentage opted to use LARC methods," the authors write.
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/2/6891337/st-louis-gave-teens-free-birth-control-and-they-now-have-very-low (http://www.vox.com/2014/10/2/6891337/st-louis-gave-teens-free-birth-control-and-they-now-have-very-low)
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.
As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.vox-cdn.com%2Fthumbor%2Fe3v_v8ICuY5cbtOlzYCMPiQGACw%3D%2F800x0%2Ffilters%3Ano_upscale%28%29%2Fcdn1.vox-cdn.com%2Fuploads%2Fchorus_asset%2Ffile%2F2317216%2Fchoice_project.0.png&hash=b0dfc21a372825f39bbe3bfca6671fa23e62c913)
When financial and medical barriers are removed, it turns out teenagers this form of birth control more than they use pills: nearly three-quarters of the CHOICE Project participants in this study used some form of LARC, such as an IUD. Separate research has found that, nationally, just 4.5 percent of teenagers use this method.
Separate programs have had similarly dramatic results: Colorado saw teen birth rates decline 40 percent when it began providing free access to IUDs.
"We found that in a cohort of teenage girls and women for whom barriers to contraception (lack of knowledge, limited access, and cost) are removed and the use of the most effective contraceptive methods is encouraged, a large percentage opted to use LARC methods," the authors write.
http://www.vox.com/2014/10/2/6891337/st-louis-gave-teens-free-birth-control-and-they-now-have-very-low (http://www.vox.com/2014/10/2/6891337/st-louis-gave-teens-free-birth-control-and-they-now-have-very-low)
They don't have time for sexy-fun-time. They're all too busy protesting/burning down QT's and crap.
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Maybe if we had a govt. paid for trojan man go door to door. . .
Science proves this is the only way. Thanks Kat kid.
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Maybe if we had a govt. paid for trojan man go door to door. . .
Science proves this is the only way. Thanks Kat kid.
Teaching a lesson about personal responsibility or a never ending Holocaust of previous dead babies. I guess we know which side you fall on.
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Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/science/colorados-push-against-teenage-pregnancies-is-a-startling-success.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/science/colorados-push-against-teenage-pregnancies-is-a-startling-success.html?_r=0)
WALSENBURG, Colo. — Over the past six years, Colorado has conducted one of the largest ever real-life experiments with long-acting birth control. If teenagers and poor women were offered free intrauterine devices and implants that prevent pregnancy for years, state officials asked, would those women choose them?
They did in a big way, and the results were startling. The birthrate for teenagers across the state plunged by 40 percent from 2009 to 2013, while their rate of abortions fell by 42 percent, according to the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment. There was a similar decline in births for another group particularly vulnerable to unplanned pregnancies: unmarried women under 25 who have not finished high school.
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Interesting
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:lol:
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A twist tie on the old weasel works, this seems like a good idea. It's better than giving Dr. Hamburger work.
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My views on contraception and abortion aren't really material to this thread. But I do get disgusted by friends of mine who brag about banging lots of girls with zero regard to birth control. Laziness and irresponsibilty about the possibility of pregnancy when you have no regard to raising or supporting that pregnancy and child pisses me off.
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Interesting
Predictable
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter)
It saddens me that Trump is the most likely candidate to make this case in this presidential cycle and I see NO one on the horizon that is willing to make this case as a public health/human rights issue.
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter)
It saddens me that Trump is the most likely candidate to make this case in this presidential cycle and I see NO one on the horizon that is willing to make this case as a public health/human rights issue.
I'm really not sure of the point the author is trying to make. Just that abortion clinics are shutting down due to a number of factors?
What exactly would you have a president do to cure the issue?
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter)
It saddens me that Trump is the most likely candidate to make this case in this presidential cycle and I see NO one on the horizon that is willing to make this case as a public health/human rights issue.
I'm really not sure of the point the author is trying to make. Just that abortion clinics are shutting down due to a number of factors?
What exactly would you have a president do to cure the issue?
Executive order.
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter)
It saddens me that Trump is the most likely candidate to make this case in this presidential cycle and I see NO one on the horizon that is willing to make this case as a public health/human rights issue.
I'm really not sure of the point the author is trying to make. Just that abortion clinics are shutting down due to a number of factors?
What exactly would you have a president do to cure the issue?
Promote free availability of contraceptives. I'm guessing that there may be some executive actions.
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/abortion-clinics-in-blue-states-are-closing-too/?ex_cid=story-twitter)
It saddens me that Trump is the most likely candidate to make this case in this presidential cycle and I see NO one on the horizon that is willing to make this case as a public health/human rights issue.
I'm really not sure of the point the author is trying to make. Just that abortion clinics are shutting down due to a number of factors?
What exactly would you have a president do to cure the issue?
Promote free availability of contraceptives. I'm guessing that there may be some executive actions.
Ah yeah. That'd be cool.
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I could support all forms except the so called after conception pill. I wonder if planned hamburger would allow this. I would be against condoms in the lunch line approach though for teeniebreeders.
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I would expect b.o. or any whack job leftist to advocate against free contraceptives due to the adverse effect on abortion clinics. #thinkprogress
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I would expect radical rightists like fsd to support abortion because #lessliberals