More contraception, more pro-life

[Kat Kid]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/study-abortion-rate-at-lowest-point-since-1973/2014/02/02/8dea007c-8a9b-11e3-833c-33098f9e5267_story.html

maybe if we did provide free contraception for everyone, we could save a lot more lives?

[06wildcat]

There's three types of people when it comes to free contraception:
Reasonable people who will agree with it
People who disagree with it depending on who's proposing it
People who believe contraception = murder

2 and 3 outnumber 1 in a lot of areas in the country.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

There's three types of people when it comes to free contraception:
Reasonable people who will agree with it
People who disagree with it depending on who's proposing it
People who believe contraception = murder

2 and 3 outnumber 1 in a lot of areas in the country.

Reasonable people that oppose it depending on who's paying for it?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Sounds like the ProLife crowd is more effectively getting their message out.  Really changing things. Good for them.

[Paul Moscow]

Unfortunately, one of the contributing factors to the abortion rate going down is that many states have literally restricted access by closing clinics.

[Paul Moscow]

There's three types of people when it comes to free contraception:
Reasonable people who will agree with it
People who disagree with it depending on who's proposing it
People who believe contraception = murder

2 and 3 outnumber 1 in a lot of areas in the country.

Reasonable people that oppose it depending on who's paying for it?

Nevermind that contraceptions lead to cost savings.

[Kat Kid]

If I told you we could drastically reduce the number of murders of precious, innocent babies in the United States, would your first quibble be over how much the program would cost?

[steve dave]

Who's proposing this kk?

[Kat Kid]

Who's proposing this kk?

me.

[EMAWmeister]

I really think abortion is horrible (with the obvious exceptions), and I think KK's proposal sounds great.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

If I told you we could drastically reduce the number of murders of precious, innocent babies in the United States, would your first quibble be over how much the program would cost?

Says the gas chamber salesman to Hitler.

[Emo EMAW]

Hey KK, you know what's great about this country?  Freedom, including freedom of religion.  If for religious reasons someone disagrees with something that's okay.

[Kat Kid]

Hey KK, you know what's great about this country?  Freedom, including freedom of religion.  If for religious reasons someone disagrees with something that's okay.

wrong thread?

[CNS]

DNR posted link but the story on cnn said that the rated dropped in all but four states.   The four states were alaska, idaho, and two other super red states.  Weird.  Keep it in your pants you creepy ultra cons.

Also, probably related, alaska has a rape occurance rate somethink like three times the national avg.

[mocat]

alaska has a rape occurance rate somethink like three times the national avg.

well it's an absolute sausage fest up there. enter at your own risk

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Wait, you actually think the government offering free contraceptives (which are already practically free) is going to have any effect on the abortion rate?

Well I was going to use a condom, but I couldn't dig 75 cents out of my couch cushions, so I just decided to bare back it and not pull out.  eff!  Better dig a couple hundo out of the couch cushion so I can pay to have my unborn child's skull crushed and vacuumed out of my wife's uterus to be thrown away as medical waste.

Yeah, I was going to get on birth control until I found out it was $7 a month and I had to go to the clinic to get a script for it.  So I said eff-it, humped around anyways, didn't buy condoms either cuz they're like $4 a box, and let some rando splooge inside of me.  eff!  Had to sell all the savings bonds my grandma gave me to afford, yet another, abortion down at "planned parenthood".

[Kat Kid]

hormonal birth control is not $7/mo without health insurance.  condoms have a pretty high failure rate.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

hormonal birth control is not $7/mo without health insurance.  condoms have a pretty high failure rate.

Pffft, okie dokie

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.

As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.

[Dugout DickStone]

alaska has a rape occurance rate somethink like three times the national avg.

well it's an absolute sausage fest up there. enter at your own risk

Palin country

[Dugout DickStone]

Contraception is already so cheap and readily available that making it "free" is unlikely to have much impact on the number of abortions. People either are, or are not, too stupid to obtain/use contraception if they don't want kids. Abortions are declining because of (1) state restrictions on abortion, and (2) shifting public opinion on abortion.

As to the contraception = murder point, I suppose some might believe that, but there's a pretty significant difference between preventing conception or embryo implantation and killing a fetus that, if not viable, has actually developed into some semblance of a human being with a heart, brain, nerves, etc. The silver lining of morning-after pills being available OTC and at hospitals is that it further reduces any argument for the necessity of abortion.

There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny.  I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing.  And if we can by giving them free birth control pills that they wouldn't otherwise buy, do it yesterday.

But I am glad to see you are on board with the morning after pill.  Some psychos are against that

[ben ji]

There is a % of the population that is broke, dumb as eff and incredibly horny.  I'd love to prevent them from further reproducing.  And if we can by giving them free birth control pills that they wouldn't otherwise buy, do it yesterday.

This

[mortons toe]

condoms have a pretty high failure rate.

Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.

I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.

[Kat Kid]

condoms have a pretty high failure rate.

Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.

I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.

The pull-out method is more effective than condoms.  Too bad we can't teach people that in school.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

condoms have a pretty high failure rate.

Yeahhh, you pretty much lost it with that one.

I mean, seriously... pull out and toss it on her chest, or her face, or her toothbrush, or just go ahead and BE the toothbrush. It really is quite simple.

The pull-out method is more effective than condoms.  Too bad we can't teach people that in school.

You guys buy chinese condoms at the Dollar General?