Schlitterbahn

[420seriouscat69]

IDK, but locking  them away with real murders is not the answer. Their lives are already mumped as it is.

[Phil Titola]

IDK, but locking  them away with real murders is not the answer. Their lives are already mumped as it is.

You said forcing them into bankruptcy like it was a bad thing.... you didn't post anything about jail.

So no monetary penalty...no jail time....just wondering what you were thinking they should do with them.

[Dugout DickStone]

IDK, but locking  them away with real murders is not the answer. Their lives are already mumped as it is.

You said forcing them into bankruptcy like it was a bad thing.... you didn't post anything about jail.

So no monetary penalty...no jail time....just wondering what you were thinking they should do with them.

Depends on whether they committed a crime

[pissclams]

seems like a competent attorney could really hold the state to task for allowing these guys to do what they did, which seems to be within the state’s rules

Who is “the state”?  I’m hoping you mean the governor that was in office at the time it was approved.

The father of the kid was one of the people who allowed these guys to do what they did, so I don't expect him to press charges against the state.

that guy isn’t the only possible plaintiff
hell I could sue them, they did a shitty job protecting the people of kansas and the water park people worked inside the state’s unsafe margins

[Spracne]

Probs can't sue the state here. But given the state's contributory negligence, I feel that the criminal sanctions are a bit heavy handed.

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[puniraptor]

Good reminder that the systems we assume are in place to protect us might not exist.

[Mikeyis4dcats]

Probs can't sue the state here. But given the state's contributory negligence, I feel that the criminal sanctions are a bit heavy handed.

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What do you expect the state to do?   They are there to verify things are in working order that exist, so while they may have caught and corrected the braking system issues (and even that is a stetch given that typically this is an annual inspection basis), they aren't cracking the engineering books and verifying a ride isn't going to decapitate a 9 year old.    The lack of state inspection here is really fairly overstated.   The ride was inspected upon opening by the state and passed due to the above reasons.

[michigancat]

Good reminder that the systems we assume are in place to protect us might not exist.

yep

[Spracne]

Probs can't sue the state here. But given the state's contributory negligence, I feel that the criminal sanctions are a bit heavy handed.

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What do you expect the state to do?   They are there to verify things are in working order that exist, so while they may have caught and corrected the braking system issues (and even that is a stetch given that typically this is an annual inspection basis), they aren't cracking the engineering books and verifying a ride isn't going to decapitate a 9 year old.    The lack of state inspection here is really fairly overstated.   The ride was inspected upon opening by the state and passed due to the above reasons.

That the ride was inspected and passed such inspection should counsel against criminal prosecution. While I'm not saying the State needs to have its own engineers sign off on individual ride designs*, would it be so hard to require attestations that new rides were engineered by, uhh, professional engineers?

*Although really, how burdensome would that be? It's not like there are that many new amusement park rides built in Kansas on a yearly basis. The real motivation would be avoiding liability, or at least the appearance of liability (because 11th Amendment).

[pissclams]

what structural engineer stamped these plans?  you can’t build something like this without that can you?

[8manpick]

what structural engineer stamped these plans?  you can’t build something like this without that can you?

I mean, the structure didn't fall down

[mocat]

what structural engineer stamped these plans?  you can’t build something like this without that can you?

There is nothing wrong with the structure

[pissclams]

it operated as intended?

[mhkpasa]

it operated as intended?

The portion that a structural engineer stamped, yes. To this day.

[michigancat]

we got some hardcore PE's on goEMAW

[mhkpasa]

The indictment details fourteen injuries suffered by guests who rode the slide. The first report was of a fourteen-year-old’s concussion in 2014. Other injured riders included a 46-year-old man whose eye was swollen shut after his raft collided with a concrete wall (which led operations manager Miles, according to the indictment, to force medical staff to alter their reports), and the ten-year-old Schwab, whose injury is described in the document as “decapitation.”

[cfbandyman]

we got some hardcore PE's on goEMAW

You gotta know how to protect your ass.

[Mrs. Gooch]

They should probably take the part about Verruckt out of the Ohio University amusement park online engineering degree section.

https://onlinemasters.ohio.edu/amusement-park-and-roller-coaster-engineering/

[pissclams]

it operated as intended?

The portion that a structural engineer stamped, yes. To this day.

how so?  they just go to school to say something won’t blow over in the wind?

[Mrs. Gooch]

it operated as intended?

The portion that a structural engineer stamped, yes. To this day.

how so?  they just go to school to say something won’t blow over in the wind?

Also the impact of the body coming back down onto the slide did not knock it down.

[pissclams]

ya it's pretty sad how the engineers are flocking to this thread to cya

[HerrSonntag]

IDK, but locking  them away with real murders is not the answer. Their lives are already mumped as it is.

You said forcing them into bankruptcy like it was a bad thing.... you didn't post anything about jail.

So no monetary penalty...no jail time....just wondering what you were thinking they should do with them.

Depends on whether they committed a crime

Putting the owner of a waterpark in an orange jumpsuit and hauling him to a federal jail has to be definition of criminal justice theater.

You put people in jail to protect society from them, did they think he was going to go around building rogue deadly waterslides if left loose on the public?

I generally agree, but you have to do something to deter other water park owners from failing to follow the nonexistent safety regulations this state has imposed.

Really the state should be charged for lack of standards and or enforcement...I don't know how any of that works so don't @ me with "but how" details....I dunno!

I'm not saying building a criminally negligent structure shouldn't land a person in prison.  No, if a jury of your peers thinks you belong in prison for what you've done i don't see a problem with that.  What i think is ridiculous is the spectacle of dragging the guy down to get booked and throwing him in an orange jumper for a mug shot to blast around.  Its not like the guy was on the lamb and needed to be brought in, just pure theater/

[The Big Train]

Wouldn’t this be more on the hydrodynamics engineer(I feel like we’ve already had this discussion).  Also how many mechanical engineers does it take to defend a structural engineer?

[CHONGS]

ya it's pretty sad how the engineers are flocking to this thread to cya

It's shocking really.

[Trim]

What i think is ridiculous is the spectacle of dragging the guy down to get booked and throwing him in an orange jumper for a mug shot to blast around.  Its not like the guy was on the lamb and needed to be brought in, just pure theater/

I've got some bad news for you about how some law enforcement agencies operate.