Author Topic: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?) (Read 933860 times)

Skipper44 · « **Reply #3375 on:** March 28, 2013, 03:24:13 PM »

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Quote from: nicname on March 28, 2013, 12:52:38 AM
Interested in what you would deem the top 5 jobs in America.

I feel like you are asking or hinting at something other than what you asked because there isn't much debate on the top five programs, the debate is in the order, and frankly who cares about the order.

1. UCLA- all of the history and tradition of Kentucky without the loony fans and the fact that it isn't in Kentucky
2. Kentucky
3. UNC
4. Kansas

5. Duke, Syracuse, Indiana, Arizona, Florida

I'm guessing this wouldn't look much different for most. I didn't put Duke alone in the top 5 simply because they can't get any player.

No just wondered. It just made me think a little bit. I agree with the top tier programs for the most part, but I started questioning the actual value, to a high-end coach of being at UCLA.

The things I questioned:
1. prominence - sure, UCLA is a high-clout job in cbb, but is it still that big of a deal in LA? I count Dodgers, Angels, USC football, Lakers, and now Clippers as bigger tickets than UCLA bball. They have to compete directly with 1/2 of USC football season, and all of the LAkers and Clippers.

2. The support and funding for UCLA bball as compared to other top-tier programs. I don't think it compares and other "football first" schools also heavily fund bball and there is little pressure.

I would say that there are a lot of recruits in the CA area though.

I would put UCLA below UNC for the above reasons and add recruiting - when there is a great player in North Carolina the odds are much higher that UNC gets him than UCLA with similar recruits. UK and KU are the same way but obviously produce fewer can't miss prospects.

Additionally, I imagine the LA lifestyle may not appeal to some guys - most college coaches come from pretty simple backgrounds

pissclams · « **Reply #3376 on:** March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM »

here's my staff at UCLA---> clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) & bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.

POD Lasalle Edition · « **Reply #3377 on:** March 28, 2013, 03:55:49 PM »

Would someone please slap the idiot who thinks UCLA isn't a premier job. that is all

Skipper44 · « **Reply #3378 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:13:39 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM

here's my staff at UCLA---> clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) & bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.

Where does Coach Clams live in LA after he signs his 5 year, $20 million contract? Westwood? Brentwood? Santa Monica close to the water?

ChiComCat · « **Reply #3379 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:19:49 PM »

I am accepting the coaching job at USC. Am hiring _FAN immediately.

pissclams · « **Reply #3380 on:** March 28, 2013, 04:39:32 PM »

Quote from: Skipper44 on March 28, 2013, 04:13:39 PM

Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM
here's my staff at UCLA---> clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) & bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.
Where does Coach Clams live in LA after he signs his 5 year, $20 million contract? Westwood? Brentwood? Santa Monica close to the water?

right across the street from holmby park (easy access to both campus and w hollywood)

pvegs · « **Reply #3381 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM »

Probably luked but I can't find it in this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

ChiComCat · « **Reply #3382 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:27:49 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM

Probably luked but I can't find it in this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

At some point you have to be able to stop failing into jobs.

POD Lasalle Edition · « **Reply #3383 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:34:54 PM »

Quote from: ChiCat on March 28, 2013, 05:27:49 PM

Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

At some point you have to be able to stop failing into jobs.

I can see that side of it, but one doesn't pass on a disciple of Pitino. Tubby Smith can win at a high level, but like all Pitino disciples he runs a clean ship, so it will take alot longer. If Billy Donovan and Tubby were willing to cheat they would be fielding teams of one and dones just like Calipari. A team will take a pass at Tubby, probably a mid major and he will finish out his career their. If the right team gets ahold of tubby smith look the eff out. Minnesota is ignorant if they think they can do better than he.

wetwillie · « **Reply #3384 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM »

Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM

Probably luked but I can't find it in this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR

POD Lasalle Edition · « **Reply #3385 on:** March 28, 2013, 05:56:41 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM

Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR

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Stevesie60 · « **Reply #3386 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:03:57 PM »

That kid that just committed to Tech would be so sad, though.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #3387 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:07:04 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 05:52:51 PM

Quote from: pvegs on March 28, 2013, 05:24:36 PM
Probably luked but I can't find it in this thread: Tech interested in Tubby Smith.

Quite the pickle for MIR

enjoyed this

Stevesie60 · « **Reply #3388 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:15:00 PM »

Also, what is Tech's obsession with hiring washed-up "used to great" coaches?

ChiComCat · « **Reply #3389 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:22:47 PM »

If I were Tech, I don't blame them for getting Tubby for 3-4 years to get the program to somewhat competitive and wash the stink off the job. Then I would fire him and try for a good coach.

wetwillie · « **Reply #3390 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:32:37 PM »

Is hoiberg talking to Minnesota? The dude thinks so, so it must be a 100% lock.

michigancat · « **Reply #3391 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:34:39 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on March 28, 2013, 06:32:37 PM

Is hoiberg talking to Minnesota? The dude thinks so, so it must be a 100% lock.

oh my, I'd be devastated, and I'm not even an ISU fan. Could you imagine if you were them?

EMAWzified · « **Reply #3392 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:42:13 PM »

Quote from: Jakesie60 on March 28, 2013, 06:15:00 PM

Also, what is Tech's obsession with hiring washed-up "used to great" Kentucky coaches?

EMAWzified · « **Reply #3393 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:43:32 PM »

Doc in Ames is a marriage waiting to happen.

catzacker · « **Reply #3394 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM »

If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach. He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

pvegs · « **Reply #3395 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:52:10 PM »

Just spitballing but maybe it's a Tubby as HC, Walker as Dalonte situation. Keep the 5 star but put a recognizable face on the program?

Pete · « **Reply #3396 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:54:01 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on March 28, 2013, 03:48:35 PM

here's my staff at UCLA---> clams (hc), rusty (assist hc), mir (assist hc), sys (recruiting coordinator/assist hc), daris (DOBO), sd and limestone (co-strength and conditioning), pete (video coordinator) & bread (grad assist).

i'd like to bring _FAN on staff but i need him to focus exclusively on hoops before i bring him to westwood.

Would take!

POD Lasalle Edition · « **Reply #3397 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM

If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach. He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.

michigancat · « **Reply #3398 on:** March 28, 2013, 06:56:00 PM »

Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach. He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.

excellent point

catzacker · « **Reply #3399 on:** March 28, 2013, 07:04:42 PM »

Quote from: POD Lasalle Edition on March 28, 2013, 06:54:54 PM

Quote from: catzacker on March 28, 2013, 06:50:20 PM
If fred leaves, ISU should look at Creighton's coach. He's won the valley the last few years and seems like he could be ready to take the next step up to a major d1 program.

Aslo, TT would be rough ridin' stupid to hire Tubby.

I doubt McDermott(Creighton Coach) would bolt and leave his son at Creighton with a year of eligibility left.

McDermott, can't believe I forgot his name. Anyway, I think his son will go to the draft. And I think ISU would be a good fit. IIRC, he coached at some valley school in iowa.