Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....

[oodfan]

settlement money involved as well (at least some)

http://www.mwcboard.com/www/forums/index.php?showtopic=320

[catzacker]

It's been done before.  http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/10239/four_big_east_schools_sue_miami_acc
 

didn't stop them from leaving though.

the sec really, really doesn't want to be sued (aka challenging starr to dedicate his life to ruining you).  

but they still publicly voted....doesn't make sense.  they had to have known baylor was going to sue.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Wish I understood why Beebe is waiving the conference's right to sue.

It would just hold up the inevitable.  Nobody else is going anywhere while that crap is going on. 

This may be true, but at least we would get some money out of the deal.

[Panjandrum]

It's been done before.  http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/10239/four_big_east_schools_sue_miami_acc
 

didn't stop them from leaving though.

But that assumes the SEC didn't throw this contingency out there to save face because they don't like subsequent expansion candidates.

I agree with you, if this true, and the SEC will actually say no if someone doesn't simply waive the right to sue, it means the SEC's lawyers think they may have done something to put themselves at risk, or they are looking for a way out with limited liability.  A&M stuck their neck out there pretty far...it would be pretty embarrassing for the SEC to say, "Well, I can't get a decent ACC school to join with you, so you may want to see if you can go elsewhere."

Either way, this is more significant than what Billy Liucci is trying to blow off.  

[steve dave]

Wish I understood why Beebe is waiving the conference's right to sue.

It would just hold up the inevitable.  Nobody else is going anywhere while that crap is going on. 

This may be true, but at least we would get some money out of the deal.

Starr is going to eat up all of it in attorney fees/expenses while going rough ridin' sue crazy on them.  He has zero motivation to hold back on costs while Baylor is the only one standing up to them.  

[chum1]

It's been done before.  http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/10239/four_big_east_schools_sue_miami_acc
 

didn't stop them from leaving though.

the sec really, really doesn't want to be sued (aka challenging starr to dedicate his life to ruining you).  

but they still publicly voted....doesn't make sense.  they had to have known baylor was going to sue.

aka voting no

[steve dave]

But that assumes the SEC didn't throw this contingency out there to save face because they don't like subsequent expansion candidates.

That is ridiculous

[wabash909]

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown
Can I just say how much I hate college realignment ... and reporting on college realignment. Like herding cats.

STFU Chip 

At least he isn't in the midst of a bathroom remodel.

["storm"nut]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

[steve dave]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

[ben ji]

So it could be BAYLOR that saves the big 12?

[Panjandrum]

But that assumes the SEC didn't throw this contingency out there to save face because they don't like subsequent expansion candidates.

That is ridiculous

A&M plus VT equals win.

A&M plus Mizzou or WVU equals fail.

If this is true, knowing Baylor, there is no way you'll get everyone to sign that waiver.  No way.  Why put that contingency out there?  If you think you will win, just admit them and deal with the legal stuff later.

[MadCat]

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEWS/tabid/473/Article/227814/statement-from-dr-bernie-machen.aspx

^^^In case you want the words of the SEC.

[michigancat]

http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEWS/tabid/473/Article/227814/statement-from-dr-bernie-machen.aspx

^^^In case you want the words of the SEC.

My god, this is ridiculous.

[steve dave]

But that assumes the SEC didn't throw this contingency out there to save face because they don't like subsequent expansion candidates.

That is ridiculous

A&M plus VT equals win.

A&M plus Mizzou or WVU equals fail.

If this is true, knowing Baylor, there is no way you'll get everyone to sign that waiver.  No way.  Why put that contingency out there?  If you think you will win, just admit them and deal with the legal stuff later.

No, it's ridiculous.  They aren't going to vote for their inclusion if they don't want them.  They also aren't going to go into this without knowing exactly what they are getting especially after seeing how the Pac12 went down last year.  Just think about what it would take to get that many SEC votes for this consipiracy when it would be much easier/cleaner/efficient to just vote no and say you based your no votes on the Baylor threat.  

["storm"nut]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

[pissclams]

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown
Can I just say how much I hate college realignment ... and reporting on college realignment. Like herding cats.

STFU Chip  

At least he isn't in the midst of a bathroom remodel.

or getting his eyes widened

[steve dave]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

[WildcatNkilt]

Why should Baylor be the only ones bringing in the legal teams?  Would love to see other Big 12 members get involved.  Would like to see this limit the aggressiveness of expansion from big 10, PAC 12, and SEC.

If/when we go to the Big East, we are going to go through this bullshit again.

[steve dave]

Why should Baylor be the only ones bringing in the legal teams?  Would love to see other Big 12 members get involved.  Would like to see this limit the aggressiveness of expansion from big 10, PAC 12, and SEC.

If/when we go to the Big East, we are going to go through this bullshit again.

Your part 2 answered why your part 1 won't happen.

[EllToPay]

Why should Baylor be the only ones bringing in the legal teams?  Would love to see other Big 12 members get involved.  Would like to see this limit the aggressiveness of expansion from big 10, PAC 12, and SEC.

If/when we go to the Big East, we are going to go through this bullshit again.

Your part 2 answered why your part 1 won't happen.

sd, please replace your Global Moderator handle with Expansion Expert. tia.

[CHONGS]

So how many millions of dollars is K-State due to lose at this point in time (even in the best case Big East scenario)?

[WildcatNkilt]

So how many millions of dollars is K-State due to lose at this point in time (even in the best case Big East scenario)?

Not known considering Big East television contracts will be restructured. 

["storm"nut]

Is it possible Baylor has a place to land and thus the SEC is not worried about a lawsuit coming from them? or the other schools that could be Left Behind? All this does is delay this crap till after the Final 4 IMO

no

So A&M is going to be forced to stay because of the Kids (Baylor), Sweet.

No, please shut up.

So, A&M leaves, Baylor does not Sue, signs wavier and dies on the Mid-Major vine?

[CHONGS]

So how many millions of dollars is K-State due to lose at this point in time (even in the best case Big East scenario)?

Not known considering Big East television contracts will be restructured. 

How large an increase will we need to cover the massive increase in travel expenses?