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I remember the days when Baylor was an automatic "W" for Kstate. It didn't matter if we played at home or away, Baylor just rolled over.
@davidubben: Does Art Briles' rebuild top LHC Bill Snyder's?I would say yes. #tucknation is melting down about it. It's immaterial that Baylor is in Texas and it's immaterial that OU and Texas are "down". OU has gone 51-15 over the last five seasons. That's not very "down". Briles still has to go into Texas high schools and recruit against everyone and their favorite pet.
@davidubben: Does Art Briles' rebuild top LHC Bill Snyder's?
Any tradition they had prior to Briles was a distant memory. 35-101 prior to Briles as a member of the Big 12.
Snyder, Stoops, Patterson, Brown had 8 to 20 year head starts on Briles.
When he runs it into the ground, retires for a few years and then comes back and wins another league title lets talk.
Quote from: wetwillie on May 15, 2015, 09:48:51 PMWhen he runs it into the ground, retires for a few years and then comes back and wins another league title lets talk.This
Quote from: GONNATEAMKILLU on May 16, 2015, 10:31:45 AMQuote from: wetwillie on May 15, 2015, 09:48:51 PMWhen he runs it into the ground, retires for a few years and then comes back and wins another league title lets talk.ThisShouldn't briles get more credit if he doesn't run it into the ground
Resources is not a good argument. Relative to the era, one could easily argue that Briles had fewer resources relative to Snyder. When Briles started Baylor was woefully behind on facilities relative to the rest of the Big 12 and schools recruiting Texas hard.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on May 16, 2015, 11:40:46 AMResources is not a good argument. Relative to the era, one could easily argue that Briles had fewer resources relative to Snyder. When Briles started Baylor was woefully behind on facilities relative to the rest of the Big 12 and schools recruiting Texas hard. Yeah, the cfb landscape of 1989 is essentially identical to the landscape of 2008 (or whenever art started).
Quote from: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 17, 2015, 08:56:41 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on May 16, 2015, 11:40:46 AMResources is not a good argument. Relative to the era, one could easily argue that Briles had fewer resources relative to Snyder. When Briles started Baylor was woefully behind on facilities relative to the rest of the Big 12 and schools recruiting Texas hard. Yeah, the cfb landscape of 1989 is essentially identical to the landscape of 2008 (or whenever art started).That's pretty much the point. K-State only had to do $11 million dollars worth of facilities projects in between 1989 and 1993 and other schools were coming to take tours to see them. In 2008 $11 million in facilities improvements was a drop in the bucket.
Better resources, better history, recruiting hotbed and he still hasn't accomplished anything greater than Snyder has. This isn't even a question worth serious debate.