We're going to be awful next year aren't we?

[Asteriskhead]

We also (apparently) have a receiver named Steven West, #13. A guy I didn't realize existed until Jake threw an incomplete pass his direction during the bowl game and he was on TV.

I was surprised he was on the field, then I was surprised that I knew who he was.

[kstatefan11]

Just as a point of reference as we look at the top talent on Snyder's worst teams.  People really shouldn't dismiss how terrible our offensive talent is going to be next year.

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2001 / 6-6
WR
Aaron Lockett
Brandon Clark
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Josh Scobey
 
2004 / 4-7
WR
Yamon Figers (NFL)
Jermaine Moreira
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Thomas Clayton

2005 / 5-6
WR
Jordy Nelson (NFL)
Yamon Figers (NFL)
RB
Thomas Clayton
Carlos Alsup

2009 / 6-6
WR
Brandon Banks (NFL)
Tramaine Thompson
RB
Daniel Thomas (NFL)
Valentine

This is a valid point. But all of those teams (including '01 with Dunn and soph Ell, a season that was an aberration wedged in between two 11-win campaigns) lacked a lot at the quarterback position. Granted, that could easily be the case next year, but not if the Bazooka has his way. Also, not many of those names with (NFL) next to them were considered sure-things early in their careers. Heath or Jones could easily be the next Figurs, etc.

[Bqqkie Pimp]

I won't write off Davis or Heath.

We also (apparently) have a receiver named Steven West, #13. A guy I didn't realize existed until Jake threw an incomplete pass his direction during the bowl game and he was on TV.

FWIW, both of these future EMAW studs are pretty studly in the EA SPORTS NCAA 14 game, at least the with the downloaded rosters that the LSU bros did for download.

Heath is especially good on deep routes.

 

[MixBerryCrunch]

Just as a point of reference as we look at the top talent on Snyder's worst teams.  People really shouldn't dismiss how terrible our offensive talent is going to be next year.

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2001 / 6-6
WR
Aaron Lockett
Brandon Clark
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Josh Scobey
 
2004 / 4-7
WR
Yamon Figers (NFL)
Jermaine Moreira
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Thomas Clayton

2005 / 5-6
WR
Jordy Nelson (NFL)
Yamon Figers (NFL)
RB
Thomas Clayton
Carlos Alsup

2009 / 6-6
WR
Brandon Banks (NFL)
Tramaine Thompson
RB
Daniel Thomas (NFL)
Valentine

Thomas Clayton also played in the NFL.

[AbeFroman]

Did he ever get in a game? I remember him being exclusively a practice squad player/weight room inspiration

[TheHamburglar]

Did he ever get in a game? I remember him being exclusively a practice squad player/weight room inspiration

Clayton?  Yeah.  Had over 200 carries for over 1,000 yards and 7 TDs.

[waks]

Did he ever get in a game? I remember him being exclusively a practice squad player/weight room inspiration

Clayton?  Yeah.  Had over 200 carries for over 1,000 yards and 7 TDs.

He's asking about Clayton in the NFL.

[Missouriscribe]

I won't write off Davis or Heath.

We also (apparently) have a receiver named Steven West, #13. A guy I didn't realize existed until Jake threw an incomplete pass his direction during the bowl game and he was on TV.

FWIW, both of these future EMAW studs are pretty studly in the EA SPORTS NCAA 14 game, at least the with the downloaded rosters that the LSU bros did for download.

Heath is especially good on deep routes.

 

Do you have a link to that download ?

[nicname]

Just as a point of reference as we look at the top talent on Snyder's worst teams.  People really shouldn't dismiss how terrible our offensive talent is going to be next year.

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2001 / 6-6
WR
Aaron Lockett
Brandon Clark
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Josh Scobey
 
2004 / 4-7
WR
Yamon Figers (NFL)
Jermaine Moreira
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Thomas Clayton

2005 / 5-6
WR
Jordy Nelson (NFL)
Yamon Figers (NFL)
RB
Thomas Clayton
Carlos Alsup

2009 / 6-6
WR
Brandon Banks (NFL)
Tramaine Thompson
RB
Daniel Thomas (NFL)
Valentine

Thomas Clayton also played in the NFL.

and Josh Scoby.

[wabash909]

Welp, looks like I better update the list.

Aaron Lockett was drafted.

Rock Cartwright has been has one of our most successful running backs to play in the league.

Scobey was a sixth round pick, played in the league for 6 seasons and made a pro-bowl as a kick returner.

Thomas Clayton was also a sixth round pick, played in the league for three years.

So basically, even in our most terrible years we have had at least two players with NFL talent at skill positions. 

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2001 / 6-6
WR
Aaron Lockett (NFL)
Brandon Clark
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Josh Scobey (NFL)
Rock Cartwright (NFL)

2004 / 4-7
WR
Yamon Figers (NFL)
Jermaine Moreira
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Thomas Clayton (NFL)

2005 / 5-6
WR
Jordy Nelson (NFL)
Yamon Figers (NFL)
RB
Thomas Clayton (NFL)
Carlos Alsup

2009 / 6-6
WR
Brandon Banks (NFL)
Tramaine Thompson
RB
Daniel Thomas (NFL)
Valentine

[Skipper44]

you really should add Rock Cartwright to the 2001 list, he had a better NFL career than everyone on this list save Sproles and Nelson.

[waks]

Aaron Lockett was drafted in the 7th round.

[kslim]

whole lot of stupid in this thread, gE.magazine has went bat crap crazy

[catastrophe]

Not a single proven, legitimate playmaker on offense.

Worst wide receiving corps in 20+ years under Snyder.  Who is Bazooka Joe supposed to throw to?

Stroles 2.0 wasn't good enough to beat out two running backs this year that wouldn't start for 90% of the P5 teams in the country, but is supposed to be the savior next season.

The O-Line is still talent deficient and thin.

The defense is still coached by Tom Hayes.

Honestly, this team will be lucky to win 5-6 games.

Throw?  Have you seen the man's calves? What makes you think we're going to need to throw the ball?

I'm pretty nervous (though excited) about next year, but if nothing else we're set up to have a pretty solid D with a ball-control offense.  Will likely make for a lot of close games, which could get us anywhere from 6-6 to 9-3 I would say. Don't get me wrong, it could be a bad year, but I think the ceiling is quite a bit higher than you're giving Snyder and co. credit for.

[Hurricane Cat]

Welp, looks like I better update the list.

Aaron Lockett was drafted.

Rock Cartwright has been has one of our most successful running backs to play in the league.

Scobey was a sixth round pick, played in the league for 6 seasons and made a pro-bowl as a kick returner.

Thomas Clayton was also a sixth round pick, played in the league for three years.

So basically, even in our most terrible years we have had at least two players with NFL talent at skill positions. 

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2001 / 6-6
WR
Aaron Lockett (NFL)
Brandon Clark
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Josh Scobey (NFL)
Rock Cartwright (NFL)

2004 / 4-7
WR
Yamon Figers (NFL)
Jermaine Moreira
RB
Darren Sproles (NFL)
Thomas Clayton (NFL)

2005 / 5-6
WR
Jordy Nelson (NFL)
Yamon Figers (NFL)
RB
Thomas Clayton (NFL)
Carlos Alsup

2009 / 6-6
WR
Brandon Banks (NFL)
Tramaine Thompson
RB
Daniel Thomas (NFL)
Valentine

Here's some irrelevant information:  Brandon Banks currently plays for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats and does the 'John Wall Dance' when he scores a touchdown.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I always confuse Keithen Valentine and William Powell. I also always confuse Josh Scobey and Frank Murphy

[GoodForAnother]

We also (apparently) have a receiver named Steven West, #13. A guy I didn't realize existed until Jake threw an incomplete pass his direction during the bowl game and he was on TV.

This makes me feel a lot better. At the game my buddy and I had no idea who he was so we named him Peepyopee West.

[AbeFroman]

Did he ever get in a game? I remember him being exclusively a practice squad player/weight room inspiration

Clayton?  Yeah.  Had over 200 carries for over 1,000 yards and 7 TDs.

He's asking about Clayton in the NFL.

Turns out he was really really good for a couple preseasons. Regular season, not so much. But it's better than my career!

[wabash909]

I always confuse Keithen Valentine and William Powell. I also always confuse Josh Scobey and Frank Murphy

Oh man, Frank Murphy was pretty great.  Makes me remember back in the DOD days when we were serious about trying to win a title and we'd get in there and really recruit the true all American JUCO studs, guys like Bishop, McDonald, Jeff Kelly, Q Morgan, before we decided to go the route of walkons and 5 heart Kansas farm boys.

Frank was pretty baller with his gold teeth.  I also like the fact that we gave him a car, again, back in the DOD when we really cared.  Dude was insanely fast, like legit 4.3, but ran upright and carried the ball awkwardly.  Laying out for that amazing catch that made it in Sports Illustratedwas also pretty cool at the time.

My God, we were stacked in 1998.  Dude was the JUCO player of the year and didn't even start.

[GONNATEAMKILLU]

Stop it, you're going to make me cry

[wabash909]

Man, we really cared about wining back in those days.  NFL talent coming out of our ears.  Getting put on probation by the NCAA for boosters buying BMW's for our players and everything.

Now we're debating how incredible our white walk-on QB is and how David West is going to pick up where Tyler Lockett left off.

[420seriouscat69]

Man, we really cared about wining back in those days.  NFL talent coming out of our ears.  Getting put on probation by the NCAA for boosters buying BMW's for our players and everything.

Now we're debating how incredible our white walk-on QB is and how David West is going to pick up where Tyler Lockett left off.

[Fldermaus]

I always confuse Keithen Valentine and William Powell. I also always confuse Josh Scobey and Frank Murphy

Oh man, Frank Murphy was pretty great.  Makes me remember back in the DOD days when we were serious about trying to win a title and we'd get in there and really recruit the true all American JUCO studs, guys like Bishop, McDonald, Jeff Kelly, Q Morgan, before we decided to go the route of walkons and 5 heart Kansas farm boys.

Frank was pretty baller with his gold teeth.  I also like the fact that we gave him a car, again, back in the DOD when we really cared.  Dude was insanely fast, like legit 4.3, but ran upright and carried the ball awkwardly.  Laying out for that amazing catch that made it in Sports Illustratedwas also pretty cool at the time.

My God, we were stacked in 1998.  Dude was the JUCO player of the year and didn't even start.

Apparently Frank M lost the gold teeth and found Jesus.  Now a motivational speaker.  Thus goes the program.
http://www.frankdmurphy.com/

Also this...  http://www.frankdmurphy.com/

[wabash909]

Hey guys, how terrible are we going to be at the skill positions next year!?!

Judah Jones has now quit the team.

[420seriouscat69]