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Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 07:49:42 AMQuote from: star seed 7 on November 18, 2021, 07:36:18 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 07:08:12 AMQuote from: catastrophe on November 18, 2021, 07:05:37 AMPersonally I’d like to hear Dax out on this one. What is the data telling you about vaccines?I’m just noticing the increase in breakthrough cases. Again, now we know why vaccine was redefined by the CDC.Why?Immunity was flipped to protection. They of course explained it away. Yet other vaccines have either eradicated diseases entirely or rendered 95% plus of the recipients wholly immune from ever getting the disease. This isn’t an anti-vax statement either. So don’t even bother with that bullshitYou didn't answer the question
Quote from: star seed 7 on November 18, 2021, 07:36:18 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 07:08:12 AMQuote from: catastrophe on November 18, 2021, 07:05:37 AMPersonally I’d like to hear Dax out on this one. What is the data telling you about vaccines?I’m just noticing the increase in breakthrough cases. Again, now we know why vaccine was redefined by the CDC.Why?Immunity was flipped to protection. They of course explained it away. Yet other vaccines have either eradicated diseases entirely or rendered 95% plus of the recipients wholly immune from ever getting the disease. This isn’t an anti-vax statement either. So don’t even bother with that bullshit
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 07:08:12 AMQuote from: catastrophe on November 18, 2021, 07:05:37 AMPersonally I’d like to hear Dax out on this one. What is the data telling you about vaccines?I’m just noticing the increase in breakthrough cases. Again, now we know why vaccine was redefined by the CDC.Why?
Quote from: catastrophe on November 18, 2021, 07:05:37 AMPersonally I’d like to hear Dax out on this one. What is the data telling you about vaccines?I’m just noticing the increase in breakthrough cases. Again, now we know why vaccine was redefined by the CDC.
Personally I’d like to hear Dax out on this one. What is the data telling you about vaccines?
I thought it was understood that this was never going to end a long time ago. Which is why non CoronaBro experts kept and keep saying that the constant attempts to intercede only prolongs the worst of it.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 09:24:27 AMI thought it was understood that this was never going to end a long time ago. Which is why non CoronaBro experts kept and keep saying that the constant attempts to intercede only prolongs the worst of it.You honestly think mitigations done in 2020 did not help society? That is your claim here?
what lockdowns and restrictions (besides masks) have existed in the US in 2021?
Quote from: Phil Titola on November 18, 2021, 09:32:01 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 09:24:27 AMI thought it was understood that this was never going to end a long time ago. Which is why non CoronaBro experts kept and keep saying that the constant attempts to intercede only prolongs the worst of it.You honestly think mitigations done in 2020 did not help society? That is your claim here? It’s debatable. But you’re a huge CoronaBro who spent over a year in a complete state of total meltdown.
Quote from: mocat on November 17, 2021, 01:11:32 PMwhat lockdowns and restrictions (besides masks) have existed in the US in 2021?Kids in many districts are forced into 10 day quarantines when 1 kid they played with at recess tests positive. KCPS is doing this. Also- many districts were still virtual or hybrid at the end of May 2021
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 09:36:09 AMQuote from: Phil Titola on November 18, 2021, 09:32:01 AMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 09:24:27 AMI thought it was understood that this was never going to end a long time ago. Which is why non CoronaBro experts kept and keep saying that the constant attempts to intercede only prolongs the worst of it.You honestly think mitigations done in 2020 did not help society? That is your claim here? It’s debatable. But you’re a huge CoronaBro who spent over a year in a complete state of total meltdown. Only one of has lived through two global pandemics I guess so your steadfastness and experience was a beacon of hope Dax.LOL debatable.
I’d say most of the covid-related gov interventions have been net negligible at best.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: nicname on November 18, 2021, 09:58:31 AMI’d say most of the covid-related gov interventions have been net negligible at best.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy would you say that? Do you have any evidence?
The initial lockdowns absolutely had a huge impact in keeping fatalities down. We needed to get to the vax finish line.
https://phmpt.org/These quacks filed a lawsuit after the FDA refused to diclose the Pfizer documentation and records of interactions with Pfizer during the Pfizer vaccine approval process.The FDA has asked for 76 years to release all the documents.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 10:57:10 AMhttps://phmpt.org/These quacks filed a lawsuit after the FDA refused to diclose the Pfizer documentation and records of interactions with Pfizer during the Pfizer vaccine approval process.The FDA has asked for 76 years to release all the documents.Dax, this sounds a lot like you are not trusting the Trump led FDA for approving the Pfizer vaccine under his watch. This will get you 25 Trump demerits.
Guys, stop talking about the virus. Nobody cares anymore.
Quote from: wetwillie on November 18, 2021, 08:51:01 AMQuote from: Sandstone Outcropping on November 18, 2021, 08:49:50 AMQuote from: nicname on November 18, 2021, 08:13:17 AMQuote from: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 04:56:04 PMUS 7-day rolling average up to 85K (from 71K around 11/1).Hospitalizations in KS are pretty flat. https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/It's never going to end, folks!Nope.I hope you are right, nicname! It FEELS like it is never going to end. It’s not going to end, it will just be normalized that X amount of people every year die from it. The avian FLU is coming for us anyway.My apologies. I wasn’t clear. Nope, it’s not going to end. People will always get and die from covid; hospitalizations and deaths almost entirely among the very fat, very old and generally unhealthy, especially if not vaccinated.
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on November 18, 2021, 08:49:50 AMQuote from: nicname on November 18, 2021, 08:13:17 AMQuote from: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 04:56:04 PMUS 7-day rolling average up to 85K (from 71K around 11/1).Hospitalizations in KS are pretty flat. https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/It's never going to end, folks!Nope.I hope you are right, nicname! It FEELS like it is never going to end. It’s not going to end, it will just be normalized that X amount of people every year die from it. The avian FLU is coming for us anyway.
Quote from: nicname on November 18, 2021, 08:13:17 AMQuote from: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 04:56:04 PMUS 7-day rolling average up to 85K (from 71K around 11/1).Hospitalizations in KS are pretty flat. https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/It's never going to end, folks!Nope.I hope you are right, nicname! It FEELS like it is never going to end.
Quote from: Sandstone Outcropping on November 17, 2021, 04:56:04 PMUS 7-day rolling average up to 85K (from 71K around 11/1).Hospitalizations in KS are pretty flat. https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/It's never going to end, folks!Nope.
US 7-day rolling average up to 85K (from 71K around 11/1).Hospitalizations in KS are pretty flat. https://www.kha-net.org/DataProductsandServices/STAT/Dashboard/It's never going to end, folks!
Quote from: michigancat on November 18, 2021, 10:03:31 AMQuote from: nicname on November 18, 2021, 09:58:31 AMI’d say most of the covid-related gov interventions have been net negligible at best.Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy would you say that? Do you have any evidence?I think it would be hard to quantify, and I certainly couldn’t do it on my own. You’d have to take all the pros vs all the cons and categorize by intervention level, population density, local climate etc.
A 99% vaccination rate and on least on one day, 1/3 of the new cases of Covid infection are apparently fully vaccinated people/break through cases. #blueanonGe lead by Steve Dave and the other usual suspects want to immediately shift into per capita discussion and similar to avoid addressing a 33% breakthrough infection rate. LOL #onbrand
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on November 18, 2021, 05:48:53 AMA 99% vaccination rate and on least on one day, 1/3 of the new cases of Covid infection are apparently fully vaccinated people/break through cases. #blueanonGe lead by Steve Dave and the other usual suspects want to immediately shift into per capita discussion and similar to avoid addressing a 33% breakthrough infection rate. LOL #onbrandDax omfg you cannot be serious