Author Topic: Tyree... (Read 3752 times)

WildCatzPhreak · February 28, 2007, 11:57:22 AM

I was kinda pumped to get Tyree here because I thought he would make an excellent shooting guard. Someone who could hit the shot from behind the arc when we really needed him to.

But somebody pointed out to me the other day that he's really not that outstanding from behind the arc. That he had a lower 3pt% than Stew. And they don't exactly play tough defense in the kansas jucos. I didn't look up the stats to verify, but I didn't have any reason to disbelieve him.

What's the deal? Is Tyree amazing or isn't he? Because we really need a shooter for next year.

michigancat · February 28, 2007, 12:02:18 PM

Tyree is amazing. He was chucking at Butler, which led to him being off the team.

That's my story, anyway.

ksu_FAN · February 28, 2007, 12:10:24 PM

I would put little stock into the JUCO experiment that Evans went through. He could've done better, but it wasn't an ideal situation and obviously for whatever reason he never bought in with Smithson. I've got to believe Huggs would either get him bought in or get rid of him, and its worth a scholarship to take that chance IMO. The fact that he scored 884 points his SR season says a lot about his abilities on the court.

Before things went bad:

Smithson said the talent Evans has as a player makes him potentially a special player.

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"My dad (Gene Smithson) had 30 guys that played for him go to the NBA," Smithson said. "I've had guys that played for me that went on to the NBA. I've played with guys who went on to the NBA. Tyree is one of those kind of players. He has the potential to be a player at that level. He can be a top player in my league, the Big 12 or any league he may get to after he's done with college. He has a chance to make millions of dollars playing this game."

"He has all of the ability in the world. He has the potential to be as good as you can find at any level of basketball. With Tyree it is all about habits and work ethic. He needs to adjust to doing the right thing. We're trying our hardest to get him changed. He's been on his own and doing his thing his way for a while now. He is a good kid, so I don't want that taken wrong. He is not a bad kid at all. He just needs to do things the way we want them done here, and I think he will get that."

ScubaSteve · February 28, 2007, 12:24:28 PM

If he won't listen to Randy, why take a chance on the kid? We don't need to take chances any more. Why bring a potential cancer into our possible championship equation next year? We don't NEED him.

I don't want Tyree.... at all. I've seen him play and interact with others. He has bad attitude written all over him. Also, all he displayed was a good three point stroke. He's not a slasher and he's not a point guard. He does have a lot of speed and athleticism, but he is not a ball-handler. He's athletic enough to play good defense if he is taught well. He's not worth the risk. We need to back away from the table and be happy with what we have coming already.

KSU176 · February 28, 2007, 12:29:19 PM

We need a shooter like Tyree. Not a bad risk. If he effs up, boot him.

michigancat · February 28, 2007, 12:29:43 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 12:24:28 PM

...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah.....he displayed..a good three point stroke. ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah......blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah......blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah...

SIGN HIM UP!

WildCatzPhreak · February 28, 2007, 12:45:04 PM

Quote from: Rusty on February 28, 2007, 12:29:43 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 12:24:28 PM
...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah.....he displayed..a good three point stroke. ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah......blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah......blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah...

SIGN HIM UP!

That's kinda what I was thinkin. I just want a 3 pt shooter. Who cares about the risk, if he &@#%s up he sits or is booted. But the kid obviously does whatever Huggs asks, as evidenced by him coming all the way out to the midwest to play at Butler.

G: Clent Stewart
G: Tyree Evans
F: David Hoskins
F: Bill Walker
F: Michael Beasley

A legit scoring threat in every player on the floor. A damn good frontcourt. And a damn good backcourt. Add Huggins defense to the equation...

coitus · February 28, 2007, 01:06:59 PM

you left out an improved bench.

j-vonfeldt · February 28, 2007, 01:11:13 PM

Is there any update to his situation or is he still in limbo, I know he was mentioned in Fitz's Cannonball not too long ago but I haven't heard anything since.

cireksu · February 28, 2007, 01:12:12 PM

Has anyone read anything that says we are still actively recruiting him?

michigancat · February 28, 2007, 01:14:06 PM

Anything that says we aren't?

That would be more telling.

wildcat79 · February 28, 2007, 01:14:59 PM

Smithson is not capable of managing a talent like Evans. He mis managed Maurice Evan who now plays for the Lakers. JMNO

ScubaSteve · February 28, 2007, 01:20:46 PM

Quote from: Rusty on February 28, 2007, 12:29:43 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 12:24:28 PM
...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah.....he displayed..a good three point stroke. ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah......blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah......blah....blah...blah...blah...blah... ...blah....blah...blah...blah...blah...

SIGN HIM UP!

A good three point stroke like Lance Harris. He's Lance Harris with a really bad attitude. In fact, I would compare him to Lance.

What will happen is that he will ride the bench anyway. He won't listen to Huggins and he won't do what he is told so he won't play. I don't see why all of you are making such a big deal about this kid. He's just not worth it.

j-vonfeldt · February 28, 2007, 01:25:36 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:20:46 PM

A good three point stroke like Lance Harris. He's Lance Harris with a really bad attitude. In fact, I would compare him to Lance.

What will happen is that he will ride the bench anyway. He won't listen to Huggins and he won't do what he is told so he won't play. I don't see why all of you are making such a big deal about this kid. He's just not worth it.

There's been a lot of talk by people "in the know" that say he is an NBA talent, which in turn makes quite a buzz about a player.

pissclams · February 28, 2007, 01:27:49 PM

This thread needs a Tyree Evans update...anyone got premium here?

michigancat · February 28, 2007, 01:30:27 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:20:46 PM

A good three point stroke like Lance Harris. He's Lance Harris with a really bad attitude. In fact, I would compare him to Lance.

1) Harris wasn't top 100 anything. Evans was a consensus top 100 recruit.
2) Harris, given three years under Huggins, may have developed into a great player.

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:20:46 PM

What will happen is that he will ride the bench anyway. He won't listen to Huggins and he won't do what he is told so he won't play. I don't see why all of you are making such a big deal about this kid. He's just not worth it.

Has it crossed your mind that maybe Smithson is part of the problem? The only other good recruit he hated him and is now in the NBA, as has already been mentioned.

Besides, Tyree's HS and prep school coaches have nothing but great things to say about him.

I think he'd run through a wall for Huggs.

ScubaSteve · February 28, 2007, 01:35:42 PM

Quote from: j-vonfeldt on February 28, 2007, 01:25:36 PM

There's been a lot of talk by people "in the know" that say he is an NBA talent, which in turn makes quite a buzz about a player.

I know all about the "in the know" talk. I know the kid is an athelete and can shoot the ball (even though he didn't demonstrate that at Butler County. Lots of kids have potential and fail for a lot of reasons.

Have any of you people either seen the kid play, or talked to anyone at Butler County about what they thought of the kid? I have done both and I don't want any part of him. I agree that we could use a consistant three point shooter, lord knows that we are going to have a lot of open looks with the inside game we will have next year, but let's hope Pullen or Brown fit the bill.

j-vonfeldt · February 28, 2007, 01:43:07 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:35:42 PM

Quote from: j-vonfeldt on February 28, 2007, 01:25:36 PM

There's been a lot of talk by people "in the know" that say he is an NBA talent, which in turn makes quite a buzz about a player.

I know all about the "in the know" talk. I know the kid is an athelete and can shoot the ball (even though he didn't demonstrate that at Butler County. Lots of kids have potential and fail for a lot of reasons.

Have any of you people either seen the kid play, or talked to anyone at Butler County about what they thought of the kid? I have done both and I don't want any part of him. I agree that we could use a consistant three point shooter, lord knows that we are going to have a lot of open looks with the inside game we will have next year, but let's hope Pullen or Brown fit the bill.

I'm with you there, I'm not completely sold on this kid either but he is definitely a lightning rod for interesting conversation.

michigancat · February 28, 2007, 01:44:19 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:35:42 PM

Have any of you people either seen the kid play, or talked to anyone at Butler County about what they thought of the kid? I have done both and I don't want any part of him. I agree that we could use a consistant three point shooter, lord knows that we are going to have a lot of open looks with the inside game we will have next year, but let's hope Pullen or Brown fit the bill.

I haven't seen him play, so I'll defer to Huggins on this. If Huggins wants him, I'll trust his opinion over those of Gene Smithson and "ScubaSteve".

j-vonfeldt · February 28, 2007, 01:48:36 PM

Quote from: Rusty on February 28, 2007, 01:44:19 PM

I haven't seen him play, so I'll defer to Huggins on this. If Huggins wants him, I'll trust his opinion over those of Gene Smithson and "ScubaSteve".

In Huggs We Trust, hopefully that is the opinion of everyone here, except the lurkers of course.

catzacker · February 28, 2007, 01:50:35 PM

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:20:46 PM

A good three point stroke like Lance Harris. He's Lance Harris with a really bad attitude. In fact, I would compare him to Lance.

What will happen is that he will ride the bench anyway. He won't listen to Huggins and he won't do what he is told so he won't play. I don't see why all of you are making such a big deal about this kid. He's just not worth it.

Didn't Tyree break Iverson's scoring record in the state of Virginia? How, on this earth, can Lance and Tyree be compared.

ScubaSteve · February 28, 2007, 01:52:38 PM

Yeah, we have to defer to Huggins.

The thing is, we all revere Bob Huggins, but it's not like he doesn't have a history for errors in judging character. Let's not forget the guy's record in this regard is not perfect.

I know this board subscribes to MCMW. I like good players and people like Beasley and Walker, myself.

cireksu · February 28, 2007, 01:53:57 PM

As much as I want him I really think it's a moot point and weiser doesn't have the balls to give it the OK.

Jeffrey_Martin · February 28, 2007, 02:01:12 PM

What if it wasn't Weiser's call? What if it was OK'd over his head?

Just a thought...

ksu_FAN · February 28, 2007, 02:01:45 PM

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on February 28, 2007, 02:01:12 PM

What if it wasn't Weiser's call? What if it was OK'd over his head?

Just a thought...

That's never happened before.

michigancat · February 28, 2007, 02:02:47 PM

Quote from: catzacker on February 28, 2007, 01:50:35 PM

Didn't Tyree break Iverson's scoring record in the state of Virginia? How, on this earth, can Lance and Tyree be compared.

He was third behind Moses Malone and Iverson in all Virginia classes...he broke JJ Reddick's record for his classification.

Quote from: ScubaSteve on February 28, 2007, 01:52:38 PM

Yeah, we have to defer to Huggins.

The thing is, we all revere Bob Huggins, but it's not like he doesn't have a history for errors in judging character. Let's not forget the guy's record in this regard is not perfect.

I know this board subscribes to MCMW. I like good players and people like Beasley and Walker, myself.

It's worth the shot.

Quote from: cireksu on February 28, 2007, 01:53:57 PM

As much as I want him I really think it's a moot point and weiser doesn't have the balls to give it the OK.

He'll have the balls if there's a chance he goes to another B12 school...

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on February 28, 2007, 02:01:12 PM

What if it wasn't Weiser's call? What if it was OK'd over his head?

Just a thought...

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 28, 2007, 02:01:45 PM

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on February 28, 2007, 02:01:12 PM
What if it wasn't Weiser's call? What if it was OK'd over his head?

Just a thought...

That's never happened before.

ScubaSteve · February 28, 2007, 02:07:04 PM

Quote from: Jeffrey_Martin on February 28, 2007, 02:01:12 PM

What if it wasn't Weiser's call? What if it was OK'd over his head?

Just a thought...

Gives Weiser an out. He could just blame it on Wefald. I don't see it happening though. It just doesn't make sense to throw a big character question mark into the 2007-8 equation. It will truly suprise me to see Tyree on campus next fall. I will say that I firmly believe that it has been that plan all along to bring in Tyree next fall. I think that has changed since Smithson threw him off the team.

Jeffrey_Martin · February 28, 2007, 02:11:46 PM

How often are you surprised? An everyday occurrence or, say, once a year? You might have another one coming, dude...

ksu_FAN · February 28, 2007, 02:12:31 PM

J-Mart dropping the hints.

Chances of Tyree? Yae's FT %?

ChicoRodriguez · February 28, 2007, 02:21:27 PM

I have a "hunch" that Tyree will be signing with K-State.

Author Topic: Tyree... (Read 3752 times)

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