Big 12 stats....

[chum1]

its not like we're the Patriot League all of a sudden.

There's a direct shot at PC.  This is getting nasty.

[Dan Rydell]

The 27-point loss at ku really skews the scoring margin stat.  Take that game out, and in the rest we have an offensive average of 68.48, a defensive average of 64.39, for a margin of 4.09...which is an increase in margin of 5.19 from last year, which is pretty significant when you're talking about the number of close games we lost under Wooldridge.

Building on what FAN said, it's really not too hard to see where this additional 5.19 points of margin comes from...more made three-pointers, more free throws attempted and made, more second-chance points from offensive rebounds, and giving up fewer points off turnovers by not turning the ball over so much.   

Like sys said in another thread, people don't realize how significant 4-5 points/game really is.

Escpecially when it's centered around the zero-line.  Even including the ku game, the increase from -1.1 to +1.7 is pretty significant.  The beauty of even the smallest improvement as a marginal team is that you're going to see more dramatic effects in the end record than the same amount of improvement would show in a horrible team or in a great team.  When you have a more significant improvement, like the 4-5 points a game we have this year, then you're going to see dramatic results in the standings, taking a team from 9th place to 4th place, for example.

[Dan Rydell]

Also, I would add that increasing the margin by 4-5 points/game with a group of veteran players is also possibly significant, due to the law of diminishing returns / popular conception of the "steep learning curve" in sports.  That is, it's a popular conception that the more you've improved your game, the harder it is to continue improving at the same rate.  Thus, the idea would be that Huggs getting such an improvement out of a group of players that presumably are approaching their peak in terms of basketball development shows significant ability on his part.

[pissclams]

The biggest difference you'll find between Huggs and Wooly are the players the two brought/bring into the program.
Comparing this year's stats to last year's stats, you can see that they are a wash for the most part.  Has Huggins made an impact to this year's team?  Sure.  I think this analysis is about a week and a half early.  Will the real impact he's made this year be seen in the next two weeks? Moreso in my opinion that what he's done to this point.

The problem with Wooly is he'd get us on the cusp of something and we'd fail.  This team has the NCAA's in front of it right now, do we go 1-2, 0-3 and hit the NIT or can we win 3-0, 2-1 and pull the NCAA bid.

[ksu_FAN]

The biggest difference you'll find between Huggs and Wooly are the players the two brought/bring into the program.
Comparing this year's stats to last year's stats, you can see that they are a wash for the most part.  Has Huggins made an impact to this year's team?  Sure.  I think this analysis is about a week and a half early.  Will the real impact he's made this year be seen in the next two weeks? Moreso in my opinion that what he's done to this point.

I can live with that.  Agreed.

[michigancat]

What did Wooly get us to the cusp of?

[ksu_FAN]

What did Wooly get us to the cusp of?

7 wins in the league.  The NIT.  Kenny  Williams.  Just to name a few.

[pissclams]

What did Wooly get us to the cusp of?

Did you really not realize Wooly was the antithesis of "almost but not quite" ?

[ksu_FAN]

So Wooly was "definate but sure" or whatever the opposite of "almost but not quite" is?  I'm confused.

[michigancat]

What did Wooly get us to the cusp of?

Did you really not realize Wooly was the antithesis of "almost but not quite" ?

[sys]

wooly was the thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.

[pissclams]

Sorry I confused myself there too, leave me alone you know what I meant.

wooly was the thesys, antithesys, and syntheys.

[sys]

epitome?

[chum1]

apotheosis

[michigancat]

What did Wooly get us to the cusp of?

Did you really not realize Wooly was the antithesis of "almost but not quite" ?

Really, I don't think he ever got us to "almost".

[pissclams]

Didn't we almost win like 9 games last year by a combined 10 pts?

[michigancat]

Didn't we almost win like 9 games last year by a combined 10 pts?

Well, if he would have won those games, then we would "almost" be somewhere.

[Skycat]

Didn't we almost win like 9 games last year by a combined 10 pts?

Well, if he would have won those games, then we would "almost" be somewhere.

To the cusp of mediocre!

[sys]

apotheosis

good call.