Stefhon Hannah inspiration for next week:

[kougar24]

[cireksu]

This team would be very good with hannah.

[kougar24]

Why do you think we're still pissed at him?

[pissclams]

I'm not 
If anyone knew what's best for the kid, it's his mom. 

[ksu_FAN]

I'm not 
If anyone knew what's best for the kid, it's his mom. 

That's a pretty classy thing to say, for this board anyway.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

When my son is old enough to play college basketball, I am going to be very vocal about my preference that he play for a white head coach.  In fact, I may even override my son's initial choice if that choice is to play for a black head coach.  I will be quoted in the paper talking about how I feel that my son needs a good white roll model.  

How do you think that will go over?  

[jmlynch1]

Do we even know that race was even brought up?

[michigancat]

After seeing him in Big XII play, I question how big of a difference he would make for us.  Having another shooter never hurts, but I don't think we'd be top 25 with Hannah like I used to.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Do we even know that race was even brought up?

YES.  That was THE reason that Hannah's mom wanted him to play for Anderson.  She was quoted as such.  Read the articles about it. 

[michigancat]

Do we even know that race was even brought up?

Stefhon brought it up:

It really was Stefhon’s ultimate call, he said. But he lists his mom as the “most influential person” in his life.

“She said I’d be playing for a tough coach, an African-American who wants the best out of you,” Hannah said. “It was a wake-up call to me.”

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15916447.htm


I really don't have a problem with a black kid saying he would be more comfortable with a black coach, though.

[jmlynch1]

Do we even know that race was even brought up?

Stefhon brought it up:

It really was Stefhon’s ultimate call, he said. But he lists his mom as the “most influential person” in his life.

“She said I’d be playing for a tough coach, an African-American who wants the best out of you,” Hannah said. “It was a wake-up call to me.”

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/15916447.htm


I really don't have a problem with a black kid saying he would be more comfortable with a black coach, though.

Me neither, I was just wondering if people were just assuming race came into the equation.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

I really don't have a problem with a black kid saying he would be more comfortable with a black coach, though.

Neither do I, as long as its also OK for me to say that I want my son to play for a white dude. 

[sys]

i agree with rusty re. hannah´s value.

i don´t get the whole outrage about the black coach thing.  why latch onto that and ignore the (equally obscure) comments on how his mom wanted him to go to UTEP (who had a white coach), he wanted KSU, and they compromised on MU?

[pissclams]

That isn't a good comparison.

[jmlynch1]

He wants to surround himself with people like himself, BFD.

[cireksu]

What's his assist/TO ratio.


If a white kid had those remarks in a paper shlt would hit the fan and he might lose his schol. offer. 

[ksu_FAN]

i agree with rusty re. hannah´s value.

i don´t get the whole outrage about the black coach thing.  why latch onto that and ignore the (equally obscure) comments on how his mom wanted him to go to UTEP (who had a white coach), he wanted KSU, and they compromised on MU?

B/c he didn't choose us.  And I think if the whole LOI mess hadn't happened it wouldn't be near as big.  But the way it went down and him choosing someone who is sort of a rival, I can see why our fans have reacted the way they have.  That's just the way fans our, especially those that read every line of type about these situations and hang out on messageboards.

[michigancat]

If a white kid had those remarks in a paper shlt would hit the fan and he might lose his schol. offer. 

Because that's a lot different.

[JesusShuttlesworth]

Imagine if Jason Bennett's choice had come down to KSU vs. Mizzou, and he chose KSU, and said afterwards:  "My mom said I'd be playing for a tough coach, a white man who wants the best out of you," Bennett said.  "It was a wake-up call to me."

That's the thing.  People would cringe if JB said that.  Everyone wants equality and racial harmony, but they are unwilling to step up to the plate and call it what it is when its not a white person who says something racist or discriminates on the basis of race.  

[pissclams]

GPC

[Dan Rydell]

I don't see what difference the color of someone's skin makes when your goal is to learn how to play hard and win games.   I wonder if Cartier and Dave are uncomfortable with Huggins because he's white.

If it's a personality thing, if it's a matter of his mom looking at the trouble that some of Huggins' players have gotten into in the past, fine.  But that has nothing to do with race, and I don't see why he chose to bring that up.  Maybe he and Larry Johnson should get together and commisserate about how they need a coach that understands their unique problems.

[cireksu]

"Maybe he and Larry Johnson should get together and commisserate about how they need a coach that understands their unique problems."

Maybe mike anderson slipped mrs. hannah his tootsie roll log.

[michigancat]

Imagine if Jason Bennett's choice had come down to KSU vs. Mizzou, and he chose KSU, and said afterwards:  "My mom said I'd be playing for a tough coach, a white man who wants the best out of you," Bennett said.  "It was a wake-up call to me."

That's the thing.  People would cringe if JB said that.  Everyone wants equality and racial harmony, but they are unwilling to step up to the plate and call it what it is when its not a white person who says something racist or discriminates on the basis of race. 

The difference is JB's going to a school that's 85% or so white either way - he's not a minority.  If Bennett was from somewhere like Yugoslavia and said he chose a school based on a high Yugoslav population or a Yugoslav coach, there probably isn't a problem.

Like lynch said, it's a comfort thing.  Being an extreme minority in almost any situation can be uncomfortable and intimidating.

[Dan Rydell]

He wants to surround himself with people like himself, BFD.

[catsfan20012002]

Fair warning.....

The boobs over at ESPN.com are coming over here and stealing our material in an obviously failed attempt to keep their little board alive which wouldn't be an issue if I were still over there but that's a long drawn out story. Anyways.....Just a warning to be careful who you're talking to. 

[cireksu]

Point Slimz



Whether you like it or not, if a white kid saying it is racist, then a black kid saying it is racist as well.  There should be no double standard, and until there is not double standard society will not be able to move past that.

[jmlynch1]

How many of your next door neighbors are black? It happens all the time.

[Dan Rydell]

Imagine if Jason Bennett's choice had come down to KSU vs. Mizzou, and he chose KSU, and said afterwards:  "My mom said I'd be playing for a tough coach, a white man who wants the best out of you," Bennett said.  "It was a wake-up call to me."

That's the thing.  People would cringe if JB said that.  Everyone wants equality and racial harmony, but they are unwilling to step up to the plate and call it what it is when its not a white person who says something racist or discriminates on the basis of race. 

The difference is JB's going to a school that's 85% or so white either way - he's not a minority.  If Bennett was from somewhere like Yugoslavia and said he chose a school based on a high Yugoslav population or a Yugoslav coach, there probably isn't a problem.

Like lynch said, it's a comfort thing.  Being an extreme minority in almost any situation can be uncomfortable and intimidating.

Mizzou is 90% white.  Hannah is an even more extreme minority there.

[Skycat]

How many of your next door neighbors are black? It happens all the time.

The neighbors just north of me are lesbians.

What do I win?

[jmlynch1]

I'm just saying its natural to have a desire to be in a community of people like yourself.