So the intro didn't suck

[Saulbadguy]

Why don't you try that MyFanPage buddy deal?  I haven't really done anything with that.

Nothing on there regarding e-mail or PM's.

[Saulbadguy]

[email protected]

I still haven't emailed him.

You will e-mail Richard Katz but not Rick Ball? 

Anyways, I emailed him.  Let's hope he registers! 

[Dan Rydell]

#1....students BE creative...you are IN College for what/???
#2....I hate the "wildcats", how about "THE Purple" (Stanford is the
Cardinal) = too many Wildcats out there
"THE Purple" would do for boys and girls teams
.....could be a color or thing (create a logo/person like Olympics do)
#3....big schools here in Florida have very distinctive names:
Gators Hurricanes Seminoles ALL unique
#4....love my school, but some things are very ordinary about KSU (IMO)

LOL.  Can't wait for the GP meltdown over BP's suggestion that we change the mascot...although changing it to "The Purple" would likely make those in the "Our color isn't black" camp pretty happy.  Trembling in fear at the ridicule that would rain down on the K-State Purple, however.  Of course, there would be an obvious choice for the mascot:

[ksu_FAN]

You've got Fitz against you.  You're done.

[michigancat]

#1....students BE creative...you are IN College for what/???
#2....I hate the "wildcats", how about "THE Purple" (Stanford is the
Cardinal) = too many Wildcats out there
"THE Purple" would do for boys and girls teams
.....could be a color or thing (create a logo/person like Olympics do)
#3....big schools here in Florida have very distinctive names:
Gators Hurricanes Seminoles ALL unique
#4....love my school, but some things are very ordinary about KSU (IMO)

LOL.  Can't wait for the GP meltdown over BP's suggestion that we change the mascot...although changing it to "The Purple" would likely make those in the "Our color isn't black" camp pretty happy.  Trembling in fear at the ridicule that would rain down on the K-State Purple, however.  Of course, there would be an obvious choice for the mascot:

No one will get upset because no one really pays attention to his posts but a few KATPAKR's.

[ksu_FAN]

I'm amused by the people who say it just needs to be more organized.  The cheer squad tried to lead it the last several games and about the first 4 rows would do it for like 20 seconds and then it would quite while they flashed it on the replay boards.  They have tried to get it going in an organized way but it hasn't stuck.  That's why I'm to the point where it probably won't and its probably time to move on and let the students come up with their own traditions.  

[Skycat]

Hell, I was a Jr. Blue in high school, so a Purple would probably be a step up.

[michigancat]

I think we should replace the concrete with a dirt floor so it's hazy like it was in Ahearn.

Maybe we could cut out some windows, too.

[sys]

bp has never replied to anything iīve written in like 2 years.  going back to when i was the only one who posted about bball recruiting.

so iīm extremely envious.

[Dan Rydell]

I'm amused by the people who say it just needs to be more organized.  The cheer squad tried to lead it the last several games and about the first 4 rows would do it for like 20 seconds and then it would quite while they flashed it on the replay boards.  They have tried to get it going in an organized way but it hasn't stuck.  That's why I'm to the point where it probably won't and its probably time to move on and let the students come up with their own traditions.  

I never heard it in Ahearn, but my understanding is that it's still not being done correctly.  The music they play behind it doesn't seem to work very well.  There seem to very few outside the student section who even try to join in.  Part of that may be because a lot of us never heard it before...part of it may be because the bluehairs really frigging suck.  I'm sorry, but I don't understand why a lot of these people even bother coming to the games.

[ksu_FAN]

bp has never replied to anything iīve written in like 2 years.  going back to when i was the only one who posted about bball recruiting.

so iīm extremely envious.

I've consistently talked Bball recruiting going way back.  I remember "discovering" we were in on Pervis Pasco and simply knowing who Charles Dinkins is has to count for something.

BP usually responds to questions I post on his threads.

[sys]

I've consistently talked Bball recruiting going way back. I remember "discovering" we were in on Pervis Pasco and simply knowing who Charles Dinkins is has to count for something.

BP usually responds to questions I post on his threads.

you and bp probably enjoyed nice cozy little premium ksu bball recruiting chats while i was too poor/cheap to do anything but "debate" freeboardīs mismanagement matt.

i played pickup a few times with dinkins before he left ksu.  he isnīt a popular choice, but i think he deserves serious consideration as the worst ksu bball player ever.

[michigancat]

i played pickup a few times with dinkins before he left ksu.  he isnīt a popular choice, but i think he deserves serious consideration as the worst ksu bball player ever.

Richie Terry.

[Dan Rydell]

Also, let me add that I'm exteremely interested to see the atmosphere on Saturday, when I think it's going to be packed.  I think having a full house may get people more revved up and we may get more participation in some of this stuff.

That being said, for all of ku's faults, one of the things they do really well is the 10 minutes leading up to tip-off.  They just installed videoboards before last season, and they now incorporate them in the run-up, and they've managed to incorporate video that helps rev things up, not kill everything...an area that we've improved upon a bit in the last couple of games.  They do the national anthem and the teams leave the floor.  Then they sing the alma mater and do the rock chalk chant.  Then the players come back out and do their layup drills while the band plays a song that starts slow and ends fast, right at the buzzer.  Then the announcer gets on and does his whole "Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Allen Fieldhouse" thing.  Then they introduce the visiting team...and then they play their little 20 second video that has a film reel countdown clock on it, begins with Naismith and Phog Allen and Wilt and then shows brief clips of 1988, Paul Pierce, Hinrich, etc., ending with a few dunks by current players.  It does a nice job of getting folks excited by going through the history and then the excitement of the present.  Then they do the ku intros and start the game.

Now, we do a lot of those same things, but I think the difference lies in two areas: first, it's a tighter presentation (video is done well, no dead time like we get a lot in pregame), and people always know what's coming next, so there's an anticipation.  Second, a full house makes a big difference, which is why I'm interested to see what it's like this Saturday.  Also, the band plays a bigger role, rather than using the canned, NBA arena music.  

Speaking of the band, could it possibly play some music that's been written in the past 20 years?  Seriously...I've heard "Shout it out loud" just one too many times. Believe it or not, there are arrangements available of pop songs from the past 5 years...why can't we break one of those out every now and then?

[ksu_FAN]

I've consistently talked Bball recruiting going way back. I remember "discovering" we were in on Pervis Pasco and simply knowing who Charles Dinkins is has to count for something.

BP usually responds to questions I post on his threads.

you and bp probably enjoyed nice cozy little premium ksu bball recruiting chats while i was too poor/cheap to do anything but "debate" freeboardīs mismanagement matt.

i played pickup a few times with dinkins before he left ksu.  he isnīt a popular choice, but i think he deserves serious consideration as the worst ksu bball player ever.

His problem was that he was so bad he didn't play and he left.  Only those really bad players that stay around and are horrible can be remembered, like a George Hill and Travis Canby.  

Its kind of odd how it seems like bad big guys usually stay around, but bad guards go D2 or something.

And BP has really only been active the last couple years.  

[ksu_FAN]

Also, let me add that I'm exteremely interested to see the atmosphere on Saturday, when I think it's going to be packed.  I think having a full house may get people more revved up and we may get more participation in some of this stuff.

That being said, for all of ku's faults, one of the things they do really well is the 10 minutes leading up to tip-off.  They just installed videoboards before last season, and they now incorporate them in the run-up, and they've managed to incorporate video that helps rev things up, not kill everything...an area that we've improved upon a bit in the last couple of games.  They do the national anthem and the teams leave the floor.  Then they sing the alma mater and do the rock chalk chant.  Then the players come back out and do their layup drills while the band plays a song that starts slow and ends fast, right at the buzzer.  Then the announcer gets on and does his whole "Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Allen Fieldhouse" thing.  Then they introduce the visiting team...and then they play their little 20 second video that has a film reel countdown clock on it, begins with Naismith and Phog Allen and Wilt and then shows brief clips of 1988, Paul Pierce, Hinrich, etc., ending with a few dunks by current players.  It does a nice job of getting folks excited by going through the history and then the excitement of the present.  Then they do the ku intros and start the game.

Now, we do a lot of those same things, but I think the difference lies in two areas: first, it's a tighter presentation (video is done well, no dead time like we get a lot in pregame), and people always know what's coming next, so there's an anticipation.  Second, a full house makes a big difference, which is why I'm interested to see what it's like this Saturday.  Also, the band plays a bigger role, rather than using the canned, NBA arena music.  

Speaking of the band, could it possibly play some music that's been written in the past 20 years?  Seriously...I've heard "Shout it out loud" just one too many times. Believe it or not, there are arrangements available of pop songs from the past 5 years...why can't we break one of those out every now and then?

Sadly, Wooly's pregame the last few years was kind of similar and much better than what we've seen this year.  I don't know how that is possible.

[Dan Rydell]

Sadly, Wooly's pregame the last few years was kind of similar and much better than what we've seen this year.  I don't know how that is possible.

Yeah, I agree that the Wooly pregame was better...at least the video was.  IIRC, one of the good things was that they showed the video right before they showed the tunnel walk, which worked pretty darn well.

Honestly, I think part of it is because of how they approached having Huggins.  We started out by making the intro this year all about Huggins, which was fine for the first game, but I think after the initial excitement of having Huggins wore off that people were like, "Yeah, Huggins is our coach, but we're KSU, and he's done nothing spectacular here yet."  Add in some crappy music selections and crappy flow from one element to the next, and voila.

[WILDCAT NATION]

The historical video they've used in recent years was pretty good I thought.

This bring on the cats thing is not working out...at all.

[ksu_FAN]

Sadly, Wooly's pregame the last few years was kind of similar and much better than what we've seen this year.  I don't know how that is possible.

Yeah, I agree that the Wooly pregame was better...at least the video was.  IIRC, one of the good things was that they showed the video right before they showed the tunnel walk, which worked pretty darn well.

Honestly, I think part of it is because of how they approached having Huggins.  We started out by making the intro this year all about Huggins, which was fine for the first game, but I think after the initial excitement of having Huggins wore off that people were like, "Yeah, Huggins is our coach, but we're KSU, and he's done nothing spectacular here yet."  Add in some crappy music selections and crappy flow from one element to the next, and voila.

I think you hit something there.  Granted, none of this would be happening without Huggins, but they did seem to tilt the pregame to all about Huggins and not about K-State and it doesn't seem to be working.  I have no problem with honoring Huggs and making him an integral part of whatever we do, but perhaps more balance is/was in order.

[pissclams]

Seriously...I've heard "Shout it out loud" just one too many times. Believe it or not, there are arrangements available of pop songs from the past 5 years...why can't we break one of those out every now and then?

 

[michigancat]

Didn't they get booed for doing Ricky Martin?

[Dan Rydell]

Sadly, Wooly's pregame the last few years was kind of similar and much better than what we've seen this year.  I don't know how that is possible.

Yeah, I agree that the Wooly pregame was better...at least the video was.  IIRC, one of the good things was that they showed the video right before they showed the tunnel walk, which worked pretty darn well.

Honestly, I think part of it is because of how they approached having Huggins.  We started out by making the intro this year all about Huggins, which was fine for the first game, but I think after the initial excitement of having Huggins wore off that people were like, "Yeah, Huggins is our coach, but we're KSU, and he's done nothing spectacular here yet."  Add in some crappy music selections and crappy flow from one element to the next, and voila.

I think you hit something there.  Granted, none of this would be happening without Huggins, but they did seem to tilt the pregame to all about Huggins and not about K-State and it doesn't seem to be working.  I have no problem with honoring Huggs and making him an integral part of whatever we do, but perhaps more balance is/was in order.

Here's what you do:

10:00:  Teams leave the floor, flags come on.
9:40:  Introduce the national anthem.
8:00:  Alma Mater, Fight Song, Wabash, Willie video, whatever.
5:00:  Start video.  Video opens with some clip from the Huggins' hire (preferably from Huggy) that talks about KSU's great tradition with some slow music...then, you show photos/clips with the "4 Final Fours, 8 Elite Eights, etc." overlays.  Clips of the shot against Oregon State,   Ahearn, etc., as the music gets more revved up, ending with some highlights from current players, ending with some sort of grand finale and Deep Voice Guy saying "Bring on the Cats!"  
4:30:  Cut from the video to the tunnel walk, carrying over the momentum and crowd frenzy from the video.   KSU takes the floor as the band plays the fight song.
Then, during warmups, the band plays some newer songs that they've added to their reportoire.   You could also play the Willie video here if you wanted, but I think it's better earlier.
~1:00:  Band begins playing can-can or Wabash or some other spirited tune timed to end at the buzzer.
0:00:  "Welcome to Kansas State University, etc." player intros.  No video between away and home intros.

[ksu_FAN]

That's better, though I'm good with keeping some of the "Welcome to Huggieville" stuff.  That's not going away and really doesn't need to.  How it is put together just needs work, and what you posted is on the right track.

[Ameroogie]

I'm thinking a computer-generated morph of the faces of former KSU coaches and standout players....with background music from Kansas -- Carry on My Wayward Son...

Morph of Gardner-Winter-Fitzsimmons-Hartman-Kruger-Altman-(omitted)-(omitted)-Huggins

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Morph of Barrett-Parr-Boozer-Murrell-Kruger-Williams-Evans-Blackman-Coleman-Richmond-Martin-Walker

Carry on, you will always remember
Carry on, nothing equals the splendor
The center lights around your vanity
But surely heaven waits for you

Interdisperse video clips of the student section at Ahearn Fieldhouse.

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion

Computer simulation of Willie painting over the Powercat on the center of the floor with the old Willie with Pendant

Reinstall the tradition of KSU basketball --

[ksu_FAN]

I think you just dated yourself there.

[WILDCAT NATION]

Most here will have no idea what those lyrics are...

[Ameroogie]

...and most here don't remember KSU basketball...

[michigancat]

Most here will have no idea what those lyrics are...

...and most here don't remember KSU basketball...

[ksu_FAN]

...and most here don't remember KSU basketball...

Come on, most here started and stuck with K-State basketball throughout the 90s and 00s.  Its not our fault we weren't born in 1955.  We are just as passionate as anyone that got to watch in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

[plaincat]

I'll date myself.

Who is Murrell?