ND defensive rankings in Tibesar's two years as DC..

[The Manhatter]

2004:
Scoring Defense - #1 (12.2 ppg)
Total defense - #18 (285 ypg)
Rush defense - #24 (109 ypg)
Pass defense - #18 (176 ypg)

2005:
Scoring Defense - #5 (13.2 ppg)
Total defense - #6 (265 ypg)
Rush defense - #2 (60 ypg)
Pass defense - #21 (205 ypg)

[catzacker]

If Tibesar moved to DC, as long as we then hired another special teams coach, I'd be fine with it.  I can't help but see a correlation between our special teams play with a coach directly assigned to special teams, versus a position coach and/or coordinator trying to find time to coach the special teams. 

[Buddha_Cat]

We are going to be sweet when we drop to D-II.

[WildCatzPhreak]

We are going to be sweet when we drop to D-II.

Yeah, Pitt St won't have a chance in hell.  We'll constantly dominate the sunflower showdown.

We might even make a title run!

[sonofdaxjones]

I'll give Tibesar the benefit of the doubt based on what he did with our special teams.  I know that doesn't necessarily translate into an every defensive play scenario, but it does show IMO an ability to coach at the D1 level.    Plus, he'll be working with guys who have a considerable amount of D1 experience.

[pissclams]

I'll give Tibesar the benefit of the doubt based on what he did with our special teams.  I know that doesn't necessarily translate into an every defensive play scenario, but it does show IMO an ability to coach at the D1 level.    Plus, he'll be working with guys who have a considerable amount of D1 experience.

Dax- what in your opinion does it take to "coach at the D1 level" ?

[fatty fat fat]

coach "tibs"

[pissclams]

Thats huge "signature strength" displayed by "trips"

[sonofdaxjones]

I'll give Tibesar the benefit of the doubt based on what he did with our special teams.  I know that doesn't necessarily translate into an every defensive play scenario, but it does show IMO an ability to coach at the D1 level.    Plus, he'll be working with guys who have a considerable amount of D1 experience.

Dax- what in your opinion does it take to "coach at the D1 level" ?

My opinion? All kinds have done it, some well, some not so well.   I think Tibesar is worth a look given that he's shown he's capable of handling one of the 3 segments of the game well on the D1 level, and by all appearances managed another segment of the game well, albeit at a lower level.   If you look at the timeline of MOST young D1 coordinators, you'll see that their history looks very similar to Tibesar's.

Jim Tressel, coached at Youngstown State (very well), but he jumped straight to Ohio State and never looked back.  Who knows??

[fatty fat fat]

2004:
Scoring Defense - #1 (12.2 ppg)
Total defense - #18 (285 ypg)
Rush defense - #24 (109 ypg)
Pass defense - #18 (176 ypg)

2005:
Scoring Defense - #5 (13.2 ppg)
Total defense - #6 (265 ypg)
Rush defense - #2 (60 ypg)
Pass defense - #21 (205 ypg)

2006:
Scoring Defense - (18.8 ppg)
Total defense - (313.8 ypg)
Rush defense - #2 (101.8 ypg)
Pass defense - #21 (212.1 ypg)

Sounds like ND missed coach "tibs"

[BMWJhawk]

We talkin' bout North Dakota State!

 

[catinthehat]

a hard defense to run at this level because of a couple key positions that you need a rare athlete at.  Probaly the most important on the line is the nose tackle.  You need an absolute ferocious beast in there.  A guy about 6'2-6'3 310-325 pounds or more.   Not only a run stopper but a real drain clogger.  A guy that requires a minimum of a double team on every play, and then you need to have a backup for him.  On the end position you need to have some stout defensive ends.  You don't need adam carriker types but guys in a simiilair mold to that.

Nebraska was actually going ot do the 3-4 this year but we had some injuries really early on to some key linebackers that killed that, but the plan is set, still in motion and I think they are going to give it another shot.  We beleive we have a couple very stout nose tackles to get it done

[The Manhatter]

We talkin' bout North Dakota State!

we talkin' James Johnson returnin' the pig 80 yards to the house on Tibesar's KO return unit on somebody's team?

[The Manhatter]

Probaly the most important on the line is the nose tackle.  You need an absolute ferocious beast in there.  A guy about 6'2-6'3 310-325 pounds or more.   Not only a run stopper but a real drain clogger.

Not in the college game you don't...NFL yes but not college.  Or did you miss LSU's nose in the 3-4 in 2003?  He be 6-1 285 rollin' lbs of cajun thunda!!

[catinthehat]

6'1 285 is about right.  there has to be a certain body type. 

[JR Ewing]

I'll give Tibesar the benefit of the doubt based on what he did with our special teams.  I know that doesn't necessarily translate into an every defensive play scenario, but it does show IMO an ability to coach at the D1 level.    Plus, he'll be working with guys who have a considerable amount of D1 experience.

I would tend to think that special teams, more than offense or defense, would rely primarily on playmakers and much less on schemes.  If you want to give Tibs the benefit of the doubt, fine, but don't do it based on the performance of special teams because that's a real stretch.

[FBWillie]

I hope it's not a 3-4.  I mean, I can see why you could get the necessary athletes to come to North Dakota... but there's no way we can get guys for that defense way down here in kansas....   

[michigancat]

He might not even run a 3-4.