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December 13, 2006, 08:02:04 PM
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ksuno1stunner

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in the ape room, i posted a question about chem 184.  they blocked me for some reason, so can somebody ask how much extra credit hierl gives out?  thanks.

December 13, 2006, 08:05:55 PM
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  anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last year?
Posted: 12/12/06 11:12:57 am       
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what does the final consist of?


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:16:30 am       
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Do you remember the last tests you took (probably 3)? That.


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CyprusXXX
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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:16:43 am       
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I took Hierl for chem 188. I had Borovik for 184. Hierl's final is pud. Borovik's not so much. It's just regurgitated old questions from previoius tests with some number changes.


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:20:44 am       
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I had Hierl for Physical Chemistry. Nothing too bad there. It should be just like his other tests.


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:24:43 am       
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Chem 184 is an upper level course, or just this professor teaches both?


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:25:09 am       
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184 = Chem 1


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:27:37 am       
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Oh. That seems like weird nomenclature. All the other places I've heard Chem 1 is 101/102 or 1001/1002...

Oh the days of Gen chem. How I miss ye...


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  Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:32:22 am       
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Hierl's finals are exactly like his previous four tests. I took his Chem184 in Fall 2004. If you did well on the first four, you should be fine with similar studying.
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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 11:52:19 am       
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I had Chem 150 in 1987. Easiest 5-hour A in 4 years. If my experience is a guide, it will be a piece of cake.
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  Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 12:14:50 pm       
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Damn, I hadn't heard those names in a while. I had Hierl for either chem 2 (or was it 1, can't remember exactly) in spring 2000, IIRC his tests were really easy.


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 12:15:07 pm       
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chem 184 is chem1 for chem majors


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ksustnr
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  Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 12:37:14 pm       
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sweet. we get a cheat sheet too, probably going to copy EVERYTHING from the last tests and the practice questions in the back.


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  Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 1:03:08 pm       
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Here's a tip. On the three versions of his tests, the answers are all the same choices, but the questions are different in a small but substantial way. If you can't answer a question, it may be possible to cross out answers if you 'notice' what question he is asking other people.

I never did this, but I heard it from a friend...
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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 1:20:05 pm       
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I had Bricker in 1979. I could dig up the old final if you want.

(BTW Bricker = Best Teacher Ever)


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 1:28:01 pm       
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chem 184 is chem1 for chem majors
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And engineering majors.

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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 1:28:08 pm       
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wait, why do we have a guy with a KSU handle asking about a ku class?
Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this.


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ksustnr
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  Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 4:34:22 pm       
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because i go to ku


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not necessarily. when i started as a mechanical, they wanted me to take the 5 hour Chem class that was an overview of Chem 184 and Chem 188. i told them to plss off b/c i liked chemistry so much, and ended up taking it, then doing chemical engineering.

it's also the class for any biology/chemistry/physics majors.


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not necessarily. when i started as a mechanical, they wanted me to take the 5 hour Chem class that was an overview of Chem 184 and Chem 188. i told them to plss off b/c i liked chemistry so much, and ended up taking it, then doing chemical engineering.
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Interesting. Maybe I should have narrowed it down to EEs starting in '95.
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December 13, 2006, 08:07:00 PM
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Posted: 12/12/06 6:02:00 pm       
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The final is basically your old tests regurgitated with the numbers changed, so study those and you should be fine. If you need any other study material use the problems from the back of the book (if they're still in there).
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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 6:08:14 pm       
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150 is for non science liberal arts majors. 184 is for any science major.

Kind of like calc 115 is calc for dummies (me).

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Who here took the last year of Organic Chem by Hyser (sp?) in 93/94?
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Posted: 12/12/06 6:19:20 pm       
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I remember when I took that class he took questions off of the old tests and practice tests verbatim. People were taking the old tests and shrinking to the point they were barely legible and managed to fit all of them on their cheat sheets. He got @#%$ after that and started changing around numbers from then on, but they're still pretty much the same questions. Just go over all your old tests and old practice tests and you will ace it.


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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 6:23:58 pm       
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Hierl is the easiest teacher I've ever had. I didn't show up for class but for a couple times and still walked out of there with a very, very high A. If you're struggling in his chem class, I recommend you don't take anymore.


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  Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 7:27:26 pm       
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definately not as bad as i thought it would be. i wish i would have taken lab more seriously though. hope it doesn't kill me though, as i'm borderline, and really need an A. also, how much does the attendance and online extra credit help out?


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Posted: 12/12/06 9:22:16 pm       
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Ah Pete Hierl... last year he showed up 45 minutes late to a review session (pretty sure he was drunk too.). Speaking of, who's ready for Hanson's CHEM624 on Friday?


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CyprusXXX
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   Re: anybody here take chem 184 with hierl within the last ye
Posted: 12/12/06 9:23:56 pm       
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21, you were in my chem class thn. He made up some bullcrap that he had lost his keys or locked himself out or something.


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December 13, 2006, 08:37:22 PM
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ksuno1stunner

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i saw most of the replies, dunno how much ec we get though.  i'm at about a 91, curve will be 88-89, and i really don't want to study