Bennett, Colon vs. Wooly's big men.

[michigancat]

Who, out of this group, would you give up Bennett, Colon, or both to have?

Jeremiah Massey
Justin Williams
Pervis Pasco
Matt Seibrandt
Kelvin Howell*
Travis Reynolds*

*Not technically Wooldridge recruits, but what the hell.

Personally, I'd probably take all the guys in the Wooly list over Bennett or Colon...Seibrandt's probably the only one who wouldn't fit with Huggs....at all.  I think he'd get along great with the rest of them.

[jarrr]

Bennett and Colon are projects, on any other team in the country theyd be riding the bench and possibly redshirting. They arent ready for big minutes. I really like their potential though.

[Saulbadguy]

I wouldn't give up either of them.

[catzacker]

I'd take Massey for Bennett, right now...in two years I wouldn't give up either of them. 

[sys]

Who, out of this group, would you give up Bennett, Colon, or both to have?

Jeremiah Massey
Justin Williams
Pervis Pasco
Matt Seibrandt
Kelvin Howell*
Travis Reynolds*

*Not technically Wooldridge recruits, but what the hell.

Personally, I'd probably take all the guys in the Wooly list over Bennett or Colon...Seibrandt's probably the only one who wouldn't fit with Huggs....at all.  I think he'd get along great with the rest of them.

i would probably just take pasco, williams, and massey over both.  howell and seibrandt over one of the 2 just to have a guy more ready this year to go with the freshmen project.

i don´t think reynolds gives you anything hoskins, martin, or even yearby can´t.  don´t get me wrong, i loved watching that guy play, but he had no talent at all.  just effort.

good point about wooldridge getting decent bigs.  but then, he should have.  there weren´t many coaches in college bball more dedicated to running an offense through a big than wooldridge.  given that, i think he should have been able to recruit bigs better than he did.  can you imagine the kind of numbers a truly talented big could have put up in wooldridge´s system?

[coitus]

all the wooly recruits came in as sophomores (seabass) or juniors.

ask the question again in a year or two, and the answer will make more sense.

i'd trade yearby for travis reynolds in a heartbeat.

and afeli for any of them.

[michigancat]

all the wooly recruits came in as sophomores (seabass) or juniors.

ask the question again in a year or two, and the answer will make more sense.

And all (except Williams) averaged double figures right away.

Will Colon or Bennett average double figures next season?  Doubtful.   By year 3?   Maybe.

[Saulbadguy]

all the wooly recruits came in as sophomores (seabass) or juniors.

ask the question again in a year or two, and the answer will make more sense.

And all (except Williams) averaged double figures right away.

Will Colon or Bennett average double figures next season?  Doubtful.   By year 3?   Maybe.

Should they? When we have players like Bill Walker and Michael Beasley?

[chum1]

Like all of Woolridge's other players, they suck at shooting the ball, too.  We don't seem to be sacrificing a whole hell of a lot without them in other areas like rebounding.  They wouldn't help us out all that much this year.  Besides, all of Wooldrige's players on our current suck, so why wouldn't these guys also suck on our current team?

[snart]

Bennett and Colon will both be solid contributors in their Junior and Senior years.  They may be able to provide some solid play in their Sophomore year.  This year, however, they are going to be frustrating to watch...

[coitus]

all the wooly recruits came in as sophomores (seabass) or juniors.

ask the question again in a year or two, and the answer will make more sense.

And all (except Williams) averaged double figures right away.

Will Colon or Bennett average double figures next season?  Doubtful.   By year 3?   Maybe.

pasco and massey didn't average double figures until their junior year.  seibrandt didn't average double figures until his senior year.  williams never averaged double figures.

so i guess in order for you to have a point, you'll have to wait until bennet and colon are juniors.  at least.

also funny that you left out a great many wooldridge post recruits.  i guess accurate comparisons aren't your thing.

[michigancat]

also funny that you left out a great many wooldridge post recruits.

Like who?

[coitus]

hughes, afeli, diarra, canby, dabarrosa, hayden

[pissclams]

LOL

[BrotherDDay]

all the wooly recruits came in as sophomores (seabass) or juniors.

ask the question again in a year or two, and the answer will make more sense.

And all (except Williams) averaged double figures right away.

Will Colon or Bennett average double figures next season?  Doubtful.   By year 3?   Maybe.

Would the be able to play defense for Huggins?  That side of the court is more important to Huggins.  Wooly didn't really care about defense.

Also, even though some of those guys could score some points, they suffered from some serious brain cramps.

[BrotherDDay]

hughes, afeli, diarra, canby, dabarrosa, hayden

Don't forget about the one's who never showed up: Cisse and the French version of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

[sys]

pasco and massey didn't average double figures until their junior year. 

no?  i´m pretty sure massey averaged around 25-26 his soph. year.

[michigancat]

hughes, afeli, diarra, canby, dabarrosa, hayden

Oh yeah, there's probably a reason I forgot those guys. 

Hughes:  Horrible
Afeli:  On the team anyway
Diarra:  not good
DaBarossa:  Not really a big man
Hayden:  Honestly, he was better as a frosh than Colon or Bennett will be.
Canby: ugh

[sys]

Diarra:  not good

i liked diarra.  good defender.  should have rebounded better.  no moves, but he was good with his little face up jumper that no one wanted to guard.

i´d take him on this year´s team.

[michigancat]

Would the be able to play defense for Huggins?  That side of the court is more important to Huggins.  Wooly didn't really care about defense.

Seriously?

Speaking of brain cramps, did Colon really forget to put on his jersey Sat. night?

[coitus]

don't tell wooly that dabarrosa wasn't a post player.  he kept him in there for two years, and he was just as tall as massey and hayden.

regardless, none of wooly's post recruits ever averaged double figures until their junior or senior year.

we'll see in a couple if bennet or colon measure up.

[ECN]

im gonna ask a dumb question..and its only cause i cant remember or didnt care when i heard it...
but what happened to hayden?

[michigancat]

regardless, none of wooly's post recruits ever averaged double figures until their junior or senior year.

While that's true, what good does that do us now?

I think we'd be better off this year (and possibly in the long term) with a Juco big averaging 10-15 ppg to complement Bennett and/or Colon.

Really, what's the advantage of getting 2 HS players that are mediocre at best for a year when a guy like Wooly could pretty much get a Juco big to score double figures every year but one?

I'm not saying go all Juco, and I'm not upset about having Bennett and Colon on the team, but I think we could be better off with a decent Juco in the mix.

[sys]

rusty,
i was pretty anti-bennett when i first saw clips and stats on him in hs.  but i decided i could live with a year of him instead of a decent (KW) or a good (the guy who went to GA) juco pf if it meant better chemistry between a defense minded true center and beasley than you would get between young superfrosh pf and senior juco pf.

i assume that was huggins idea in not going juco last spring.  otherwise i can´t understand it.

[michigancat]

but i decided i could live with a year of him instead of a decent (KW) or a good (the guy who went to GA) juco pf if it meant better chemistry between a defense minded true center and beasley than you would get between young superfrosh pf and senior juco pf.

i assume that was huggins ideas in not going juco last spring.  otherwise i can´t understand it.

Didn't think of it that way.

Makes sense.

[chum1]

Andy, you interested in a big man?  I just don't have any room for him.

Player GP PPG FGM FGA FG% FTM FTA FT% 3PTM 3PTA 3PT%
Kenny Williams 3 5.7 7 15 46.7 3 6 50 0 0 0

[coitus]

i think huggins was thinking of more than just the 2006-7 season when he signed bennet and colon.

[snart]

I think Huggins would have loved to have Kenny Williams.  It seems it was K-State's administration that wasn't in love...

[chum1]

Could be.  I just always assumed that no one really tried to get KW eligible on account of a decision by Huggins.  It seems like he could have been here if they really wanted him to be.

I just like the idea of having an NBA sized line-up.  It obviously doesn't guarantee success, but it certainly seems like a team could be really, really good if they could make it work.

[cireksu]

Sorry if this  has already been brought up but all wooly's best post guys were jucos. 

this is an unfair comparison until bennett and colon are juniors.  they will be much much better.