A dark day in Wildcat Land

[Kat Kid]

Many of us called it, but it still was difficult to watch.  Freeman looked exactly like a freshman who was completely outclassed in preparation by the Jayhawks.  Granted, they had an extra week to game plan.  Granted, it was in their house.  But this loss should bring us back to Earth and keep us focused for the bowl game, the off-season and have the Kansas game penciled the rest of the off-season referring back to this moment as a lesson to draw inspiration and knowledge from.

Ron Prince sounded alot like Bill Self after the Oral Roberts debacle.  It seems like both coaches momentarily lost their team's focus.  One, becuase his up-start band of underdogs knocked off the defending national champs and were seemingly still hungover from the waterfalls of Natty Lite that had flowed like liquid gold down the boobies of eager-to-please co-eds all week prior to the game.  The other because the team, much like the aforementioned Longhorns, were reluctant to descend from their Burger Baby filled mountain in the clouds to engage in battle with a clearly overmatched opponent.

The results speak for themselves.

While Manhatter was over on the phog spinning the Figurs injury (and jlynch embarassed himself by listing Hollywood's absence from the starting line-up as a "loss") we all knew in our hearts that this had nothing to do with either one of those things.  This was what happens when a young team exceeds expectations by such leaps and bounds.  Hard work and focus are the first casualties after a stunning upset.  It happened to Rutgers, to W. Virginia, to Lousiville (which made the Texas choke job even more monumental).

We all were hoping Ron Prince truly was a mythical, winged creature bestowed upon our program.  He is not.  He is in fact human.  This game should serve the program well.  It could be the turning point in creating a team that hates to lose.  A team that doesn't forget what it feels like to win.  This could be the moment when Ron Prince makes an incredible impression on the Young Wildcats on the squad, leading them in a Wildcat snarl/growl that spurs them to victory.

Or, it could be a terrible loss to the ku football equivalent of Wooldridge.  Who the hell knows?

[The Manhatter]

While Manhatter was over on the phog spinning the Figurs injury (and jlynch embarassed himself by listing Hollywood's absence from the starting line-up as a "loss") we all knew in our hearts that this had nothing to do with either one of those things.  This was what happens when a young team exceeds expectations by such leaps and bounds.  Hard work and focus are the first casualties after a stunning upset.  It happened to Rutgers, to W. Virginia, to Lousiville (which made the Texas choke job even more monumental).

Figurs injury definitely had an impact on the game and anybody who suggests otherwise...well, no need to expand on that.

When a defense has ZERO respect for your ability to stretch the field they can dictate the action near the LOS. If you think ku would have played us the same way yesterday if Figurs was healthy then...again, I'll lock it down.

We should have run the ball more and not tried to win it w/ an 18 year old QB regardless of how talented he is...this was not the game for Josh to win it.  Too many personnel issues.

No, ku's pass D is not "improved"...we just didn't have the personnel to hurt it.  Mizzou will and they will throw it all over the field on Kansas.

[jmlynch1]

Once again I feel the need to point out that Jlynch is not the same person as Jmlynch. Jlynch please stop.

[Kat Kid]

While Manhatter was over on the phog spinning the Figurs injury (and jlynch embarassed himself by listing Hollywood's absence from the starting line-up as a "loss") we all knew in our hearts that this had nothing to do with either one of those things.  This was what happens when a young team exceeds expectations by such leaps and bounds.  Hard work and focus are the first casualties after a stunning upset.  It happened to Rutgers, to W. Virginia, to Lousiville (which made the Texas choke job even more monumental).

Figurs injury definitely had an impact on the game and anybody who suggests otherwise...well, no need to expand on that.

When a defense has ZERO respect for your ability to stretch the field they can dictate the action near the LOS. If you think ku would have played us the same way yesterday if Figurs was healthy then...again, I'll lock it down.

We should have run the ball more and not tried to win it w/ an 18 year old QB regardless of how talented he is...this was not the game for Josh to win it.  Too many personnel issues.

No, ku's pass D is not "improved"...we just didn't have the personnel to hurt it.  Mizzou will and they will throw it all over the field on Kansas.

I agree his absence had an impact on the game.  So did Colt McCoy's when we beat Texas.  I'm just saying, you line up and you play with the 22 you have.

There is little doubt in my mind we could've beat ku without Figurs.  Look at the points off turnovers, I am not trying to downplay how big Figurs could've been (especially after Texas) but we handed them points.

Anyway, my post wasn't really attempting to break down the game as much as what I think the midsets going in were.  I could be wrong but everyone pretty much looked at this game as a potential "let-down game."  I am unprepared to claim otherwise because I haven't watched the game more than once and am not privy to a great deal of information that would go into proving otherwise. 

Do you think it was a let-down game, or no Figurs was a bigger deal?  No rush D, Turnovers are in-game reasons but what about going in?  Do you think those "pre-game reasons" had a sig. impact?

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Figurs apparently would have made up 19 points all by himself.

[The Manhatter]

Figurs apparently would have made up 19 points all by himself.

what an idiot.

If Figurs plays ku doesn't pin their ears back and come like they do.  Safeties sit back.  Bigger gains running the ball(hard to imagine w/ Patton's 7.3 ypc vs. ku).  Far less blitzes.  Webb gives cushion and Freeman completes quick outs all day long.  If the Thorpe award finalist gives Figurs a big cushion most of the night I can guarantee you that ku does the same.

And in the end there are not wild attempts at throwing the ball leading to hit/fumble/TD, etc, etc, etc.

It's pretty easy to figure out. The 19 points didn't come from ku's offense.  The longest TD drive was 24 yards.  If Figurs plays there are less turnovers and more points in the visitors column and fewer turnovers(fluke scores for ku).

[The Manhatter]

kat kid, I agree.  Yesterday was the day Prince should have shelfed "bold and daring" for "cold and boring".  Run the ball, run the ball, and punt.  ku couldn't score TD's w/ out turnovers.  It played into their hands and Mangino chuckled the whole time.

that's okay...prince has things to learn.  We'll be fine.  Fat man won for the last time against KSU.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Wow. Thats a beautiful domino theory there Hatter. Of course its nothing but theorycrafting butterfly effect type bullcrap. But you go on believing that one guy being there would have changed the entire game. Thats what sore losers do.

It's pretty easy to figure out.

No, its pretty easy to romanticize about what could have been.

[The Manhatter]

Wow. Thats a beautiful domino theory there Hatter. Of course its nothing but theorycrafting butterfly effect type bull@#%$. But you go on believing that one guy being there would have changed the entire game. Thats what sore losers do.

Yep, ku needing only to move the ball 40 yards for 30 points has happened to us all season long in terms of turnovers.  ku gets that kind of stuff all of the time too!!

Shoot, not just Figurs...throw in Moreira too.  He gets open underneath all day long regardless of who we play.

ku can't cover. Sure, they can cover Nelson on a bum knee and a walk-on Daniel Gonzalez but add a few elements that would normally be on the field and it's not so easy and ku's game plan is completely different.  Keep thinking little slow Anthony Webb would have covered Figurs off the LOS and everything would have been on lockdown.  Safeties never would have been active near the LOS.  Nah...none of it would have gone down yesterday.  We ku and we ball hard at 3-4!!

[Kat Kid]

Wow. Thats a beautiful domino theory there Hatter. Of course its nothing but theorycrafting butterfly effect type bull@#%$. But you go on believing that one guy being there would have changed the entire game. Thats what sore losers do.

It's pretty easy to figure out.

No, its pretty easy to romanticize about what could have been.

...And this is what pussy phaesant hunters do when their team gets jolted off life-support.

Where the f*ck where you the rest of the season, or post-Oral Bob?

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

What if Meier hadn't fumbled? and Cornish hadn't fumbled? and Meier hadn't thrown two interceptions in the redzone? and Washington wasn't injured earlier in the season? and Meier had never been injured and had more experience from games Barmann was in?

I'll bet all of those turnovers would have been touchdowns. Our offense is just too good to stop. No one can stop Cornish. Lets figure that up, 6 x 4 = 24 + (1 x 4) = 28. 39 + 28 = 67 points. Everything would have been bound to go perfectly because when I think about what might have been, I like to pick the best possible scenario!

My god, it would have been 67 to 20.

If Only!

[michigancat]

Many of us called it, but it still was difficult to watch.  Freeman looked exactly like a freshman who was completely outclassed in preparation by the Jayhawks.  Granted, they had an extra week to game plan.  Granted, it was in their house.  But this loss should bring us back to Earth and keep us focused for the bowl game, the off-season and have the Kansas game penciled the rest of the off-season referring back to this moment as a lesson to draw inspiration and knowledge from.

Ron Prince sounded alot like Bill Self after the Oral Roberts debacle.  It seems like both coaches momentarily lost their team's focus.  One, becuase his up-start band of underdogs knocked off the defending national champs and were seemingly still hungover from the waterfalls of Natty Lite that had flowed like liquid gold down the boobies of eager-to-please co-eds all week prior to the game.  The other because the team, much like the aforementioned Longhorns, were reluctant to descend from their Burger Baby filled mountain in the clouds to engage in battle with a clearly overmatched opponent.

The results speak for themselves.

While Manhatter was over on the phog spinning the Figurs injury (and jlynch embarassed himself by listing Hollywood's absence from the starting line-up as a "loss") we all knew in our hearts that this had nothing to do with either one of those things.  This was what happens when a young team exceeds expectations by such leaps and bounds.  Hard work and focus are the first casualties after a stunning upset.  It happened to Rutgers, to W. Virginia, to Lousiville (which made the Texas choke job even more monumental).

We all were hoping Ron Prince truly was a mythical, winged creature bestowed upon our program.  He is not.  He is in fact human.  This game should serve the program well.  It could be the turning point in creating a team that hates to lose.  A team that doesn't forget what it feels like to win.  This could be the moment when Ron Prince makes an incredible impression on the Young Wildcats on the squad, leading them in a Wildcat snarl/growl that spurs them to victory.

Or, it could be a terrible loss to the ku football equivalent of Wooldridge.  Who the hell knows?

Nice post.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Wow. Thats a beautiful domino theory there Hatter. Of course its nothing but theorycrafting butterfly effect type bull@#%$. But you go on believing that one guy being there would have changed the entire game. Thats what sore losers do.

It's pretty easy to figure out.

No, its pretty easy to romanticize about what could have been.

...And this is what pussy phaesant hunters do when their team gets jolted off life-support.

Where the f*ck where you the rest of the season, or post-Oral Bob?

Posting sparingly. If the land wasn't void of humor, I'd stick around. And its post-Oral Bob(powerhouse) right now.

Btw, if you're looking for posts from me, I post more at the warzone than anywhere else by far and it still isn't much.

[Kat Kid]

Dude, we own you.  Hard.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

I am not in a state of agreement with you.

[The Manhatter]

6 x 4 = 24 + (1 x 4) = 28. 39 + 28 = 67 points

- 30 points off turnovers.  Add points to KSU score column.


I know the math on the season.  KSU is 4-4.  Mangino has never been 4-4.  He's 3-4 and about to pull another Wooly ending to the season.

Mangino = Wooly...the argument strengthens

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Well then, congratulations on losing to Wooly this year and finishing below Wooly in the standings the last two years.

Hell, Wooly could still beat Mizzou in the land of misery and end with a 7 win season.

[jeffy]

ku still sucks.

[greasd up deaf guy]

Wow. Thats a beautiful domino theory there Hatter. Of course its nothing but theorycrafting butterfly effect type bull@#%$. But you go on believing that one guy being there would have changed the entire game. Thats what sore losers do.

It's pretty easy to figure out.

No, its pretty easy to romanticize about what could have been.

...And this is what pussy phaesant hunters do when their team gets jolted off life-support.

Where the f*ck where you the rest of the season, or post-Oral Bob?

Posting sparingly. If the land wasn't void of humor, I'd stick around. And its post-Oral Bob(powerhouse) right now.

Btw, if you're looking for posts from me, I post more at the warzone than anywhere else by far and it still isn't much.

This is such bullcrap. You claim the same crap on the warzone and continue to be the biggest crap spinner this side of Limbaugh. You get a charge out of coming after us repeatedly (as your post count would attest to) so don't come in here with the same lame &@#%ing excuse. You apparently disappear and then just SO HAPPEN to reappear right after your team wins its super bowl. Anyone with a hint of logic knows what this is. Same old goldie pheasant and spin.
Enjoy being slaughtered by Mizzou next week.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Kilgore, why would I be on a pheasant hunt? What did a rival do that would make me leave the boards? You see, usually when a person goes pheasant hunting, its because they lost a game with a rival. That = hasn't happened to ku all year yet.

I'll be waiting for your answer.

[waks]

Once again I feel the need to point out that Jlynch is not the same person as Jmlynch. Jlynch please stop.

Jlynch on the phog is ksuno1stunner. ksuno1stunner cannot use the phog anymore due to being banned thus he uses the jlynch account that is no longer in use by the original jlynch. jmlynch should stop being such a faggot.

[greasd up deaf guy]

Kilgore, why would I be on a pheasant hunt? What did a rival do that would make me leave the boards? You see, usually when a person goes pheasant hunting, its because they lost a game with a rival. That = hasn't happened to ku all year yet.

I'll be waiting for your answer.

Spin as usual. You can't refute that you were gone and just happened to come back at the perfect moment. Then, you move to the Clinton-esque "what's the definition of is".
Define it as you want. Your team struggles, KSU beats CU and Texas and you're nowhere to be found. Then you suddenly reappear with a lame excuse.

[ksuno1stunner]

Once again I feel the need to point out that Jlynch is not the same person as Jmlynch. Jlynch please stop.

Jlynch on the phog is ksuno1stunner. ksuno1stunner cannot use the phog anymore due to being banned thus he uses the jlynch account that is no longer in use by the original jlynch. jmlynch should stop being such a faggot.

i'm actually "jayhox" on that site.

[waks]

Once again I feel the need to point out that Jlynch is not the same person as Jmlynch. Jlynch please stop.

Jlynch on the phog is ksuno1stunner. ksuno1stunner cannot use the phog anymore due to being banned thus he uses the jlynch account that is no longer in use by the original jlynch. jmlynch should stop being such a faggot.

i'm actually "jayhox" on that site.

[GoldbrickGangBoss]

Kilgore, why would I be on a pheasant hunt? What did a rival do that would make me leave the boards? You see, usually when a person goes pheasant hunting, its because they lost a game with a rival. That = hasn't happened to ku all year yet.

I'll be waiting for your answer.

Spin as usual. You can't refute that you were gone and just happened to come back at the perfect moment. Then, you move to the Clinton-esque "what's the definition of is".
Define it as you want. Your team struggles, KSU beats CU and Texas and you're nowhere to be found. Then you suddenly reappear with a lame excuse.

The sunflower showdown occurred. Thats not 'coming back at the perfect moment'. It doesn't take much brain power to realize that there would probably be some mildly interesting things worth reading post-game on these boards.

I could have said something after ku demolished Iowa State on the road. Or after Ksu struggled with Washburn. Couldn't care less about Texas, I've said they were overrated since the beginning of this season.

But don't worry, college football is nearly over and basketball season is even more boring on these boards. There will be even less of a reason for myself to visit. I'm sure I'll read them after the ku/Ksu/Mizzou matchups though, regardless of outcome.

[markp68]

Wow. Thats a beautiful domino theory there Hatter. Of course its nothing but theorycrafting butterfly effect type bull@#%$. But you go on believing that one guy being there would have changed the entire game. Thats what sore losers do.

Yep, ku needing only to move the ball 40 yards for 30 points has happened to us all season long in terms of turnovers.  ku gets that kind of stuff all of the time too!!

Shoot, not just Figurs...throw in Moreira too.  He gets open underneath all day long regardless of who we play.

ku can't cover. Sure, they can cover Nelson on a bum knee and a walk-on Daniel Gonzalez but add a few elements that would normally be on the field and it's not so easy and ku's game plan is completely different.  Keep thinking little slow Anthony Webb would have covered Figurs off the LOS and everything would have been on lockdown.  Safeties never would have been active near the LOS.  Nah...none of it would have gone down yesterday.  We ku and we ball hard at 3-4!!

'Hatter, just to set you up with another excuse for this Saturday, MU's best receiver is out with an injury.

[greasd up deaf guy]

Kilgore, why would I be on a pheasant hunt? What did a rival do that would make me leave the boards? You see, usually when a person goes pheasant hunting, its because they lost a game with a rival. That = hasn't happened to ku all year yet.

I'll be waiting for your answer.

Spin as usual. You can't refute that you were gone and just happened to come back at the perfect moment. Then, you move to the Clinton-esque "what's the definition of is".
Define it as you want. Your team struggles, KSU beats CU and Texas and you're nowhere to be found. Then you suddenly reappear with a lame excuse.

So you didn't bother to come run or read some smack BEFORE the game? Things you'd want to bump later? More bullcrap.