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Author Topic: Why is Everyone so down on the MWC?  (Read 1463 times)

June 14, 2010, 02:06:01 PM
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Coach833

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The way I see it, the MWC is our best fit.  We would be consistently competitive in that conference, which has now added Boise State to its lineup of tcu, Utah, and BYU (all strong football programs).  In basketball, UNLV, Utah, and BYU are solid programs and adding KSU and possibly ku would be outstanding.  This is a conference that is up and coming and should be able to negotiate a solid TV deal with Fox Sports (whose base of viewers is all West of the Mississippi).  Consider the following markets the MWC would have with the addition of ku and KSU:
1.) A share of the Dallas market (thanks to tcu)
2.) San Diego (thanks to San Diego State)
3.) Salt Lake City (Utah and BYU)
4.) Part of the Denver market (CSU)
5.) Part of Kansas City
6.) Las Vegas

Also consider that the following smaller markets would also be part of this:
1.) Wichita (about 500,000 people in the metro area)
2.) Boise, ID (almost 600,000 in the metro)
3.) Colorado Springs (about 600,000 in its metro)
4.) Entire state of Wyoming (about 550,000)

In total, this new conference would have a footprint into a total television market of about 19,260,000 people.  This also assumes that the Mountain West would stop at 12 teams.  One could easily see the conference make a move toward this "magic" number of 16, adding schools such as Fresno St, San Jose St, Nevada, and Idaho.  As for Utah, I think utah will stick with the MWC precisely because it is moving toward becoming an automatic qualifier, and should get it with the demise of the Big XII.  We bring a lot to the table for the MWC and we need to embrace them while we have the chance, because if we pass to try to preserve the Big XII, 5 years from now when (assuming it stays together for now) OU, Texas, et al decide they've had enough, no one will be talking to us then, because decisions have already been made.  In short, the MWC gives us a chance to continue to be in a BCS conference and be competitive, whereas in the Big XII, we risk being a non-factor in decisions. 

BTW: the television market of the Big XII is about 27,000,000 homes, certainly larger than MWC would be, but consider that under the current membership of 10 schools, that market share has dropped to about 22.5 million, not much more than what the MWC would be.  If we lose A&M also, then that viewership drops to less than 17 million.  There is no way we can keep our BCS automatic qualifier status with only 10 schools.  Also, when the Pac-16 decides to work out a TV deal with ABC/ESPN, Fox will be without a college football conference to broadcast and a market share of 19 million viewers would be enticing to Fox who wants to compete with ABC/ESPN for television broadcasts.  The MWC wants us, and we fit in with them.  Let's go!

June 14, 2010, 02:32:00 PM
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Wildcat Jack

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I think there are a lot of advantages, but the money's just not gonna be there like it is/was with the BXII.

June 14, 2010, 03:15:31 PM
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I guess I don't see why the revenue can't be there for a MWC conference that has that many quality teams.  Sure, they aren't Texas or USC or Ohio State, but if the conference can work out a deal with Fox to be their exclusive broadcaster (which would have to include a weekly network broadcast on Fox, with the other games on Fox Sports) they should be able to generate revenue comparable to the current Big XII set up, which is about $140 million, especially if this conference can take over the Big XII's automatic qualifier position in the BCS.

June 14, 2010, 04:03:42 PM
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I saw one report that would have the MWC actually move into the Big XII if Texas pulls the South Teams out. The members leaving would need to pay the 10 million to leave and the Big XII with the MWC members would still have the automatic BCS bid.

IMHO this would be better in the long run for the remaining members then to be left in the Big XII with Texas. 

June 14, 2010, 08:26:17 PM
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I guess I don't see why the revenue can't be there for a MWC conference that has that many quality teams.  Sure, they aren't Texas or USC or Ohio State,

You answered your own question.  The teams you note have national followings...right, wrong or indifferent...it just is a fact...and that's what's gonna draw the TV deals.

June 14, 2010, 08:27:01 PM
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I guess I don't see why the revenue can't be there for a MWC conference that has that many quality teams.  Sure, they aren't Texas or USC or Ohio State,

You answered your own question.  The teams you note have national followings...right, wrong or indifferent...it just is a fact...and that's what's gonna draw the TV deals.

June 14, 2010, 08:55:15 PM
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Having lived in both San Diego and (now) Las Vegas I can tell you both SDSU and UNLV are not going to give you significant eyeballs in either of those markets.  They certainly don't now.  If they did, the MWC channel "The Mtn" be be much more prominent in either market.  Can't speak for San Diego...but it's a joke here.  You can't watch it anywhere....in perhaps the biggest market in the MWC.

Salt Lake would be nice to have...so lets go out and get BYU now that the conference is back on the offensive.  Who's #12?  Colorado State?

June 14, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
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I agree coach, Im a little upset that we didnt join the MWC....To be in a conf. that actually wants us and we would have a shot at BCS bowls would b nice. Plus all the MWC schools would b fun road trips. I guess were back to being UTs whipping boy(politically speaking) :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

June 15, 2010, 01:30:28 AM
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Fausto, I have got to agree with you. Besides if UNLV were in the mix, just think how many watch parties your mom would get 86ed. You'd have to go to Laughlin for the watch parties.
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June 15, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
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She's mellowed in her old age.   ;)