3 or 4 seed?

[2 Handed Finger Roll]

This loss hurts

[Bullfn33]

easily a 2-seed; possible 1-seed if they win the Big 12 tourney.

[jayhawks14]

easily a 2-seed; possible 1-seed if they win the Big 12 tourney.

Win the Big XII Tourney and you still may get that #1 seed, but only if Dook loses the ACC tourney.

[Purple_PhotoShopper]

easily a 2-seed; possible 1-seed if they win the Big 12 tourney.

Win the Big XII Tourney and you still may get that #1 seed, but only if Dook loses the ACC tourney.

There is no faerkn way KSU wins the Big XII Tourney. They need to buy some offense from someone.

[rjd27]

easily a 2-seed; possible 1-seed if they win the Big 12 tourney.

Win the Big XII Tourney and you still may get that #1 seed, but only if Dook loses the ACC tourney.

Duke may lose the Tourney, but at least that team knows how to close out a regular season at home (up 20 early in the 1st half).

[rak21]

easily a 2-seed; possible 1-seed if they win the Big 12 tourney.

Win the Big XII Tourney and you still may get that #1 seed, but only if Dook loses the ACC tourney.

I was going to say the same thing. Andy Katz always makes me feel better. He was on right after the KSU final became public and said this basically ends their hopes for a #1 seed but we're still going to be the #2 seed out West so it wasn't too damaging a loss.

[dobbie4ksu]

after that loss we will be lucky to get a 3 seed

[Thin Blue Line]

after that loss we will be lucky to get a 3 seed

Dob.....time to suck it up and show the purple. One loss (or two in a row) does not make a bracket. 

[dobbie4ksu]

after that loss we will be lucky to get a 3 seed

Dob.....time to suck it up and show the purple. One loss (or two in a row) does not make a bracket. 

I am being honest when I say this, even as a ksu fan, after a loss against Iowa State do we really deserve a two seed as I said in another thread Frank literally had a team that pissed down there own legs, I just dont get it

[purplepowerman]

after that loss we will be lucky to get a 3 seed

Dob.....time to suck it up and show the purple. One loss (or two in a row) does not make a bracket. 

I am being honest when I say this, even as a ksu fan, after a loss against Iowa State do we really deserve a two seed as I said in another thread Frank literally had a team that pissed down there own legs, I just dont get it

Dobbie I have to agree with you, I'm worried that we may not get a 2 seed after this loss. I think we need to get to the big 12 championship game to get a 2 seed. I believe that a 1 seed is gone even if we win the big 12 tourney, just because Duke is Duke.

[The Nasti]

We are no worse than a 3 seed...

Getting a 2 in Duke's (assuming they are a 1) bracket would be nice after last nights showing...

[jayhawks14]

If KSU makes it to at least the semi-finals of the Big XII tourney they should stick around as a 2. However if they lose their first game to OU/OSU they might drop to a 3. If Dook and tOSU both don't win their conference tournaments that last #1 is truly up for grabs.

[bry4321]

I am being honest when I say this, even as a ksu fan, after a loss against Iowa State do we really deserve a two seed as I said in another thread Frank literally had a team that pissed down there own legs, I just dont get it
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thank you Trish Flintoff!   

[88wildcat]

Deserves got nothing to do with it.  Take a look at the last 10 or 15 teams on the bubble.  How many of them deserve to be in the tournament based on what they've done this year?  The correct answer is nowhere near the number that are going to make it.

[kshox]

after that loss we will be lucky to get a 3 seed

Dob.....time to suck it up and show the purple. One loss (or two in a row) does not make a bracket. 

I am being honest when I say this, even as a ksu fan, after a loss against Iowa State do we really deserve a two seed as I said in another thread Frank literally had a team that pissed down there own legs, I just dont get it

Dobbie, I've liked some of the stuff you've done since becoming an admin, but if this is really how you feel turn in your  and go find a new team.

[dobbie4ksu]

Read it again, did I say I don't want us to get a 2 seed? The team looked bad, if you can't agree with that then you need to take your blinders off. And to question my kstatriatism because, I don't believe a 2 seed belongs to a team that loses to one of the last place teams in their league. They have got to earn that 2 seed again, I think they will do that come the Big XII tourny as I think Frank will have them prepared after this nasty loss.

[1albatross]

Read it again, did I say I don't want us to get a 2 seed? The team looked bad, if you can't agree with that then you need to take your blinders off. And to question my kstatriatism because, I don't believe a 2 seed belongs to a team that loses to one of the last place teams in their league. They have got to earn that 2 seed again, I think they will do that come the Big XII tourny as I think Frank will have them prepared after this nasty loss.

I agree that a 1 seed is gone no matter what we do in the B12 tournament, but they are still currently a 2 (by a thread) and no worse than a 3.  If they lose Thursday in the B12 tournament, they might drop to a 4, but that is unlikely.  To think that 1 loss to Iowa State is going to drop this team that far makes you look like you are new to college basketball.  Upsets happen all the time (even conference leaders get beat by bottom feeders).

Duke got beat by NC State this year...What does that make them?

[kshox]

Read it again, did I say I don't want us to get a 2 seed? The team looked bad, if you can't agree with that then you need to take your blinders off. And to question my kstatriatism because, I don't believe a 2 seed belongs to a team that loses to one of the last place teams in their league. They have got to earn that 2 seed again, I think they will do that come the Big XII tourny as I think Frank will have them prepared after this nasty loss.

Yea, the team looked bad, but they looked bad because Pullen and Clemente couldn't make a shot but kept shooting. Those 2 have won many games for us this year almost single handedly so what exactly did Frank do different in preparing for this game that made the team "piss down their legs"? KSU came out and played their style of basketball, just couldn't hit shots. Even with ISU being fairly hot from the field they were still held to 74 points in regulation which is only 4 more than teams are averaging against us in Big XII play. If Pullen or Clemente each make 1 more of their combined 38 shots we win this game and move on to the tournament. We don't want them to stop shooting, thats KSU basketball, we just need them to make their shots.

As far as KSU not deserving a number 2 seed because we lost to ISU, as 1albatross mentioned, Duke lost to NC St. (11th in ACC), plus Kentucky lost to S. Carolina (9th in SEC), Ohio St. lost to Michigan (8th in Big 10), Purdue to Northwestern (7th in Big 10). So do those teams "deserve" the 2 more so than us? I know the selection committee looks somewhat at how you finish the season, but the fact of the matter is KSU is a 6 loss team that finished 2nd in arguably the best conference in the country. To say that KSU doesn't deserve a 2 seed and is borderline 3 seed based on 1 game is ridiculous. Do I know for a fact KSU will get a 2 seed? No, they might not, the committee can be unpredictable, but if KSU beats OSU (or OU) in the tournament KSU may very well be back in the #1 seed discussion depending on how other conference tournaments go. I also doubt anyone will even remember this game if KSU wins that game and will go back to predicting a E8/F4 run in the NCAA.