Frank's extension

[WildCatzPhreak]

Ask Bill to take a substantial paycut.  Dude is probably so senile he won't even realize it's gone.  Use that money to pay Frank.  Everyone is happy. 

[sys]

Too much  in this thread for my taste.

It would've been stupid to pay Martin more than he's making before this season (pretty crappy resume), and it would be stupid not to raise his salary now (pretty impressive track record).

So, either KSU will now pay Martin what he's worth (~$1.2M), or KSU doesn't have enough money left in the bank after the Krauserape of the Athletic Department to pay Martin waht he's worth.

IMHO, letters and e-mails accomplish nearly nothing.  Checks do.

Honestly, I agree w/ everything, except I think he's probably worth about $1.5M at this point.

both of you are 'tards if you believe that.  it was obvious to smart people (mostly me, might have included rusty if he hadn't just tarded out in his above quote) that martin was a good coach after his first year.  it was even more obvious when he signed a good class the following november.  it was hitting tards in the face after his second year.

any of those opportunities would have been good times to offer a raise.  it would have cost less over the entire span of the contract to up for huge long-term contract last year (or two years ago) than it will after this season.  and it would have generated goodwill and loyalty rather than resentment.

[BarryMcCockner]

pay Frank, love Frank


p.s. in your sig line it appears that there was a large spike in gov spending in the 40's why was that.  Was that an attempt to rescue the country from a devastating economic recession?  

JFC, try WW2.  WTF are you kids learning in school these days?

[Louises West]

(785) 532-6912
[email protected]

Flood his inbox.

this is a demand by EMAW nation, not a request!

like he gives a crap about emails from the poor fans.  its the money genius.  it's the only thing that talks in America

[JTKSU]

Kinda curious about one thing here.  Aren't the majority of these other coach's salaries paid by private donations?  I know it generally works that way with football contracts.  (Ex- Mangino's raise)  There's no way in hell that the board of regents is going to okay a pay raise right now, considering the sizable deficit the state is dealing with.  Seems like a group of boosters would need to decide to pony up the extra dough here.  Now, Currie should definitely be trying to get this ball rolling but I don't think the money will ultimately come from the school's coffers.  Maybe I'm totally wrong here. 

[fatty fat fat]

both of you are 'tards if you believe that.  it was obvious to smart people (mostly me, might have included rusty if he hadn't just tarded out in his above quote) that martin was a good coach after his first year.  it was even more obvious when he signed a good class the following november.  it was hitting tards in the face after his second year.

it was obvious after his first year he knew how to coach, but hardly obvious he knew how to recruit a team. 

[jaloma58]

Ask Bill to take a substantial paycut.  Dude is probably so senile he won't even realize it's gone.  Use that money to pay Frank.  Everyone is happy. 

[doom]

Too much  in this thread for my taste.

It would've been stupid to pay Martin more than he's making before this season (pretty crappy resume), and it would be stupid not to raise his salary now (pretty impressive track record).

So, either KSU will now pay Martin what he's worth (~$1.2M), or KSU doesn't have enough money left in the bank after the Krauserape of the Athletic Department to pay Martin waht he's worth.

IMHO, letters and e-mails accomplish nearly nothing.  Checks do.

Honestly, I agree w/ everything, except I think he's probably worth about $1.5M at this point.

both of you are 'tards if you believe that.  it was obvious to smart people (mostly me, might have included rusty if he hadn't just tarded out in his above quote) that martin was a good coach after his first year.  it was even more obvious when he signed a good class the following november.  it was hitting tards in the face after his second year.

any of those opportunities would have been good times to offer a raise.  it would have cost less over the entire span of the contract to up for huge long-term contract last year (or two years ago) than it will after this season.  and it would have generated goodwill and loyalty rather than resentment.

qft.  We needed to do this at the end of last season.  Hard for Currie to as the new guy so I get that.  But if he isn't pending 80%+ of his day getting money for Frank's new contract and practice facility he should start packing. 

I also agree that it will take major donors to get this done, but if peons revolt it historically forces the hands of the people in charge.  We need to make enough noise to get things done.  I'll march in the parade.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah can't believe Currie hasn't walked in and locked Frank down at $2 millon a year on a long term guranteed contract.   What . . . with Frank's 1 NCAA tourney win and 1 NIT win to date . . . guy deserves at least $2 million a year . . . he's going to be on Jim Rome for fu_k sake.

Just when I thought ksu fans couldn't get anymore retarded.

[michigancat]

Too much   in this thread for my taste.

It would've been stupid to pay Martin more than he's making before this season (pretty crappy resume), and it would be stupid not to raise his salary now (pretty impressive track record).

So, either KSU will now pay Martin what he's worth (~$1.2M), or KSU doesn't have enough money left in the bank after the Krauserape of the Athletic Department to pay Martin waht he's worth.

IMHO, letters and e-mails accomplish nearly nothing.  Checks do.

Honestly, I agree w/ everything, except I think he's probably worth about $1.5M at this point.

both of you are 'tards if you believe that.  it was obvious to smart people (mostly me, might have included rusty if he hadn't just tarded out in his above quote) that martin was a good coach after his first year.  it was even more obvious when he signed a good class the following november.  it was hitting tards in the face after his second year.

any of those opportunities would have been good times to offer a raise.  it would have cost less over the entire span of the contract to up for huge long-term contract last year (or two years ago) than it will after this season.  and it would have generated goodwill and loyalty rather than resentment.

His 2008 class was a LOL clusterf*ck, and the DC Assault ties (where he got everyone in his "good" class that was good) were shaky before last season was over.  No program in their right mind would have tried to steal him away, and he deserved the 900k offer he got at that point.  He deserves almost double that now.

[sonofdaxjones]

Just looked it up . . . last year K-State men's basketball was near the bottom of the Big 12 in total revenue.   So far NU, ISU, MU, ku (obviously) made more money on men's hoops than K-State did in FY 2009.   

Based on my extensive historical knowledge, I predict that K-State's men's revenue will be up about $800K to $1 million this year, double that if K-State make's a nice NCAA tourney run.   That still puts K-State about in the middle of the Big 12, and still well behind conference men's basketball revenue leaders. 

[cireksu]

Is that including a bump in ticket prices?

And no one is saying he should make 2 million a year.

[~WabashRoll~]

Ask Bill to take a substantial paycut.  Dude is probably so senile he won't even realize it's gone.  Use that money to pay Frank.  Everyone is happy. 

The gravy train 5 year contract for Snyder is borderline criminal.  And I don't want to hear another tard question as to whether the money exists or not.

$9.575 million over the course of the contract.

$1.875 million in 2010-11, $1.925 million in 2011-12, $1.95 million in 2012-13 and $1.975 million in 2013-14.

Absurd.

[cireksu]

Ask Bill to take a substantial paycut.  Dude is probably so senile he won't even realize it's gone.  Use that money to pay Frank.  Everyone is happy. 

The gravy train 5 year contract for Snyder is borderline criminal.  And I don't want to hear another tard question as to whether the money exists or not.

$9.575 million over the course of the contract.

$1.875 million in 2010-11, $1.925 million in 2011-12, $1.95 million in 2012-13 and $1.975 million in 2013-14.

Absurd.

THIS

[catzacker]

Yeah can't believe Currie hasn't walked in and locked Frank down at $2 millon a year on a long term guranteed contract.   What . . . with Frank's 1 NCAA tourney win and 1 NIT win to date . . . guy deserves at least $2 million a year . . . he's going to be on Jim Rome for fu_k sake.

Just when I thought ksu fans couldn't get anymore retarded.

sometimes it's like you invent the opposing side of your argument just to post something.  no one...NO ONE...is saying 2million a year.  Most are saying 1.2-1.5 which would put him in the top 4....a place he's finished and will likely finish all 3 years. 

you're the same jackass that was up in arms about weiser not being proactive enough about huggins.  christ almighty dax.

[steve dave]

Yeah can't believe Currie hasn't walked in and locked Frank down at $2 millon a year on a long term guranteed contract.   What . . . with Frank's 1 NCAA tourney win and 1 NIT win to date . . . guy deserves at least $2 million a year . . . he's going to be on Jim Rome for fu_k sake.

Just when I thought ksu fans couldn't get anymore retarded.

JFC, it's an entire army of strawmen 

[steve dave]

Ask Bill to take a substantial paycut.  Dude is probably so senile he won't even realize it's gone.  Use that money to pay Frank.  Everyone is happy. 

The gravy train 5 year contract for Snyder is borderline criminal.  And I don't want to hear another tard question as to whether the money exists or not.

$9.575 million over the course of the contract.

$1.875 million in 2010-11, $1.925 million in 2011-12, $1.95 million in 2012-13 and $1.975 million in 2013-14.

Absurd.

This is what we are paying a non-recruiting old f^cker who hasn't been to a bowl in any of his last three seasons coaching.  Soak it in people.

[pissclams]

i really don't think anything is going to get done before the end of the season.  if i'm frank, i have no reason to negotiate anything at this point.  every game that goes by increases his value in the market.

having said that, frank has always been one to look out for his assistants.  how much is it going to take to retain them, including greenawalt, and make everyone happy?  we still need 'Te400k if he's willing to stick around a couple more seasons although has martin done enough to solidify himself w/ DCA on his own?

[QuinnMac]

Ask Bill to take a substantial paycut.  Dude is probably so senile he won't even realize it's gone.  Use that money to pay Frank.  Everyone is happy. 

The gravy train 5 year contract for Snyder is borderline criminal.  And I don't want to hear another tard question as to whether the money exists or not.

$9.575 million over the course of the contract.

$1.875 million in 2010-11, $1.925 million in 2011-12, $1.95 million in 2012-13 and $1.975 million in 2013-14.

Absurd.

This is what we are paying a non-recruiting old f^cker who hasn't been to a bowl in any of his last three seasons coaching.  Soak it in people.

[WildcatNkilt]

My response from my email to Currie:

Dave,

Thanks so much for your note!

I totally agree with you on Frank. He's a doing a great job and is a great fit for K-State. While we maintain our commitment to fiscal integrity we need to do what it takes to take care of him and his family and continue to give him the resources to build the program.

Again, thanks for your note. Go Cats!

John

Typical response.  Not like I was expecting "Holy crap Dave!  You're right!  Glad you emailed!"

[Iceberg]

The clues have been signaled...

We must hire Colon to be his body guard.

[ksu_FAN]

Yesterday is just further proof that J-Mart and Kietz are absolute pros.  And J-Mart doesn't even cover K-State anymore.  Excellent work.

[BarryMcCockner]

DeCourcy just made us look like a bunch of tight ass retards on 810.  JFC.  They need to get a deal done this month, or he's gone.

[BeaumontCat1%]

a bunch of tight ass retards

Pretty well sums up 99% of the KSU fan base.

[Bookcat]

While we maintain our commitment to fiscal integrity

fiscal integrity= making an undeserved pledge to our struggling football staff

[steve dave]

Yesterday is just further proof that J-Mart and Kietz are absolute pros.  And J-Mart doesn't even cover K-State anymore.  Excellent work.

This cannot be emphasized enough.  The elite katpak'r roady tix will flow like water into eternity.

[KSUWizard]

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/1695275.html

Jason Whitlock agrees that KSU needs to lock down FM.  I don't agree with all he says but he makes some good points. Worth a read.

[Andy]

My response from my email to Currie:

Dave,

Thanks so much for your note!

I totally agree with you on Frank. He's a doing a great job and is a great fit for K-State. While we maintain our commitment to fiscal integrity we need to do what it takes to take care of him and his family and continue to give him the resources to build the program.

Again, thanks for your note. Go Cats!

John

Typical response.  Not like I was expecting "Holy crap Dave!  You're right!  Glad you emailed!"

Thanks for your note and support of the Cats.

I totally agree with you on Frank. He's a doing a great job and is a great fit for K-State. While we maintain our commitment to fiscal integrity we need to work hard to do what it takes to take care of him and his staff and continue to give him the resources to build the program.

As you may know we relaunched The Ahearn Fund this year in an attempt to better spread the word about the true mission of the organization. In addition to covering the cost of scholarships and student-athlete welfare, the Ahearn Fund is truly the margin of excellence for K-State athletics. When our fans choose to be Ahearn Fund members they are helping to provide the financial flexibility to make the commitments necessary to ensure coaching continuity in all our sports.

Again, thanks for your note. Go Cats!

John

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thats what I got.  I said in my email I most certainly would donate if we lock Martin up, in addition to holding on to me and my family's 4 season tickets.   

[BarryMcCockner]

Yesterday is just further proof that J-Mart and Kietz are absolute pros.  And J-Mart doesn't even cover K-State anymore.  Excellent work.

This cannot be emphasized enough.  The elite katpak'r roady tix will flow like water into eternity.

Be advised, when Frank leaves us and we SLTH it up, J-Mart will be gone as well, focusing on programs superior to what ours will become, like Rice and Houston.

[5601js]

My response from my email to Currie:

Dave,

Thanks so much for your note!

I totally agree with you on Frank. He's a doing a great job and is a great fit for K-State. While we maintain our commitment to fiscal integrity we need to do what it takes to take care of him and his family and continue to give him the resources to build the program.

Again, thanks for your note. Go Cats!

John

Typical response.  Not like I was expecting "Holy crap Dave!  You're right!  Glad you emailed!"

Damn, that would have been a top notch response.