Frank's extension

[Bookcat]

Wow, Jmart comes out and says basically what I've been saying for the last two seasons. yes!

Pay this crew or they are going to leave. Period.

[Bookcat]

MEH!!!

you can't be serious. When you post stuff like this it shows me that you nothing about what is going on behind closed doors. Seriously.

[michigancat]

Wow, Jmart comes out and says basically what I've been saying for the last two seasons. yes!

[catzacker]

Currie knows he can increase season tickets, right?  For f*ck sake, I'll (and I'm assuming more ksu'ers) pay more $$ if I get to watch good basketball.  But I'm not shelling out sh*t to watch Gregg Marshall or whateve retard who would come work for 760K.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

Krause, the gift that keeps giving.

[WillieWannabe]

Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

If Bill truly loves KSU, he should work for like 900k.  But Bill only loves Bill.

MEH!!

[lifelongcat02]

Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

  don't ever bring up Krause's name again.

I sent Currie an email too.  Hopefully he can come up with the cash to pay Martin $1.2 million.  Martin is worth it and I think Martin is fair enough that he would take it because he loves KSU.  EMAW

[catzacker]

IMO, the Krause thing is a cop out.  Bullsh*t.  We have money.  Not a lot, but we do and certainly enough to raise frank and his staff’s compensation.  And if we don’t, Currie better get his ass out there and get it.  That's his f'ing job.  

[ksu_FAN]

IMO, the Krause thing is a cop out.  Bullsh*t.  We have money.  Not a lot, but we do and certainly enough to raise frank and his staff’s compensation.  And if we don’t, Currie better get his ass out there and get it.  That's his f'ing job.  

You would think today/the rest of this week would be a great time to call up the big donors.

[sys]

Wow, Jmart comes out and says basically what I've been saying for the last two seasons. yes!

Pay this crew or they are going to leave. Period.

jeffrey's post contained info you've never come close to providing.  if you want a reaction you have to bring details.  just handwringing about miami isn't going to get anything done.

[BostonPancake]

Currie should wait until the end of the year and then make a move.  Things look fan-freaking-tastic now, but I remember all the "lock-up Prince" talk after he beat texas in Austin.  Wait until the end of the year and if we end up having the incredible year it looks like we are on pace for, then make a move and double Martin and Hill's salary.  Raise ticket prices...do whatever...just get it done.

BTW, I have always felt like Curry didn't like Martin for some reason.  I don't know why...just had that feeling.

[purplepowerman]

Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

Jeff you are right on about doing things on the cheap. Thanks for the tip on Martins pay. Good solid programs that are good year after year are not run "on the cheap". This can be one of the most painful lessons to learn. I think of when Oklahoma came to Stoops and hired him and took the assistants I bet they (the assistants)all got more pay than here. When Nebraska had Osborne as a coach they never had a assistant turnover, they all got paid very well.  I hope that we have learned some lessons from the past and better think very carefully here. Do you think that the AD is dragging his feet because he has to feel out what I call the "fat cats" or financial backers?

[pissclams]

would almost be easier if Frank and staff were to find something else ASAP and just get out of town.  I have the feeling (because I've been following K-State for 20+ yrs) that this will end badly, we all know it will.

[Jeffrey_Martin]

I really just think that the current athletic director doesn't get it, and that's all I'll add on that.

Use your voices. Contact the AD, but don't stop there. Hit up the president, too. Go right to the top. He might not know what's going on in these negotiations...

[0709CatGrad]

Got Katz to chim in


Nick (Manhattan KS)


Can you see a place/opportunity that Frank Martin would leave K-State for?

Andy Katz  (11:32 AM)


Not at this juncture. He's doing a fantastic job.

[pissclams]

I really just think that the current athletic director doesn't get it, and that's all I'll add on that.

very scary if true.  i have a hard time believing that he could be that obtuse.  as was mentioned earlier, it could be a personal thing b/w him and martin.

[fatty fat fat]

I really just think that the current athletic director doesn't get it, and that's all I'll add on that.

Use your voices. Contact the AD, but don't stop there. Hit up the president, too. Go right to the top. He might not know what's going on in these negotiations...

can you save us? :(

[ClayKat]

This is all part of ADJC's master plan between him and Frank.

ADJC:  Hey, Frank, we've taken a bunch of hits in the press for all these bullcrape payouts Krause and Weefy made and people think the athletic department is in fiscal disarray.  I can't allow the perception that we just pay millions to a 3rd year head coach because you got to the tournament once.

Frank:  I'm with you, Johnny.  I'll do whatever I can.  The boys tell me that the true "base" of the fans posts on ksufans.com and their ability to mobilize the rest of the fans is unbelievable.  How about I drop some OOD references and sport a beard to get those guys fired up.

ADJC:  Yeah, yeah, I like that - it's starting to come together.  How about I leak that we're going to try to low-ball you right after we get one of the biggest wins in the last 20 years of our program and get those guys angried up and play into their concerns that the program will go back to Wooly stages, unleash a firestorm of torment upon me, so I can tell Schultzy that I legitimately fear for my safety if we don't figure out how to retain you.

Frank:  Johnny, THIS is the kind of strategizing I've always thought a school needs out of their AD.  We both know I don't want to go anywhere else.  I want to stay where I'm loved and have been accepted from day one.  I want to rebuild this into a dynasty that challenges ku every year.  I'd just like to have a little sugar to help out with being so far away from home.

ADJC:  Well, that's the plan - wonder who I should leak it to?

Frank:  The boys tell me J-Mart is the one person who can leak this information and have instant credibility with the ksufans.com board and get people off their ass and ringing your phone.

ADJC:  I love it when a plan comes together.
 

[purplepowerman]

would almost be easier if Frank and staff were to find something else ASAP and just get out of town.  I have the feeling (because I've been following K-State for 20+ yrs) that this will end badly, we all know it will.

If this really happens, then we haven't learned any lessons from years past. Then I will begin to lose hope that we'll never get it.

[The1BigWillie]

I believe Frank deserves a raise more than anyone but if you're going to call or email and bitch out Currie you'd better have your checkbook out to make a donation.  Pretty hipocritical to bitch about an extension/raise and KSU being tight if you aren't willing to kick in some $$ to help out. 

[pissclams]

would almost be easier if Frank and staff were to find something else ASAP and just get out of town.  I have the feeling (because I've been following K-State for 20+ yrs) that this will end badly, we all know it will.

If this really happens, then we haven't learned any lessons from years past. Then I will begin to lose hope that we'll never get it.

what, at this point in time, has given you reason to believe that we've learned anything from the mistakes this athletic dept has made in the past?  really, I'm searching and would love to find something.  pls post here if something tangible comes up.

[Bookcat]

Wow, Jmart comes out and says basically what I've been saying for the last two seasons. yes!

tapout noted. Hilarious you would disagree.

[purplepowerman]

I believe Frank deserves a raise more than anyone but if you're going to call or email and bitch out Currie you'd better have your checkbook out to make a donation.  Pretty hipocritical to bitch about an extension/raise and KSU being tight if you aren't willing to kick in some $$ to help out. 

Excellent point!

[michigancat]

Wow, Jmart comes out and says basically what I've been saying for the last two seasons. yes!

tapout noted. Hilarious you would disagree.

sys summed up my position perfectly, tard.  You haven't given ANY real information.

[kcchiefdav]

This is why we need the grass roots fundraiser/parade.

[steve dave]

This thread alone with guarantee elite level KatPak'rs tickets to roadys for years to come

 

[catzacker]

I really just think that the current athletic director doesn't get it, and that's all I'll add on that.

Use your voices. Contact the AD, but don't stop there. Hit up the president, too. Go right to the top. He might not know what's going on in these negotiations...

christ almighty.  we're doomed.  

what a complete and total dipsh*t currie is if he thinks that the ksu fans want fiscal responsibility.  we don't want to pay for people that have done nothing to deserve (i.e. Prince or Krause's hiring).  we're completely fine with paying people what they deserve.  and LMAO if Currie thinks he's going to have the political will to fire Snyder or push him out when it comes to it if he let's frank walk.  goddammit, we can never have anything nice.  

[Jeffrey_Martin]

This thread alone with guarantee elite level KatPak'rs tickets to roadys for years to come

 

Nothing gets past you, huh? 

[steve dave]

Someone find and post the Big 12 HC salaries please.  tia.

[ednksu]

If our admin is old school we need to do a letter writing campaign.  I think I may do some email and formal letter.


(in all seriousness write letters.  Give them something concert and meaningful.  Tell them your thoughts and what you are willing to do to help out re:donations)