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January 19, 2010, 09:39:19 AM
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I was sitting on this information, but given last night's developments, I'd say it's time to spill.

There seems to be some hesitancy by the current athletic director to give Frank a significant raise. Negotiations are on-going, and while I'm not going to get into specific numbers, what he's been offered is still under $1M per season. There has been the suggestion that Frank hasn't done anything just yet to warrant a bigger raise, but again, given last night's developments, the atmosphere at the Octagon and how the Wildcats are legitimately national media darlings, I tend to disagree with that.

It's almost as if the current athletic director is daring Frank to leave or attempting to force his hand, as if he has someone else in mind to bring in when or if that happens. This, of course, is conjecture on my part, but actions - or lack thereof - speak loudly, no?

The man deserves a raise.



January 19, 2010, 09:40:06 AM
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I was sitting on this information, but given last night's developments, I'd say it's time to spill.

There seems to be some hesitancy by the current athletic director to give Frank a significant raise. Negotiations are on-going, and while I'm not going to get into specific numbers, what he's been offered is still under $1M per season. There has been the suggestion that Frank hasn't done anything just yet to warrant a bigger raise, but again, given last night's developments, the atmosphere at the Octagon and how the Wildcats are legitimately national media darlings, I tend to disagree with that.

It's almost as if the current athletic director is daring Frank to leave or attempting to force his hand, as if he has someone else in mind to bring in when or if that happens. This, of course, is conjecture on my part, but actions - or lack thereof - speak loudly, no?

The man deserves a raise.




this would seem out of place for Curry.   

January 19, 2010, 09:42:16 AM
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Thanks for the buzz kill Jmart.   :frown:

January 19, 2010, 09:42:44 AM
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Pretty clear to me that Frank needs to be paid somewhere in the neighborhood of the Top 4 coaches in the league.  At least in the upper half.  At least.

January 19, 2010, 09:42:58 AM
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January 19, 2010, 09:43:18 AM
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curry has no clue as to the hell and fury that will be unleashed on him if he ends up being responsible for frank & co leaving. no clue.
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January 19, 2010, 09:46:05 AM
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Without Frank, this program goes straight into the crapper.  :flush:

January 19, 2010, 09:46:38 AM
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January 19, 2010, 09:46:58 AM
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what f'ing morons wouldn't say what frank has accomplished doesn't deserve 1.2-1.5million a year.  christ, we gave old balls more money, we've extended the f'ing baseball coach for getting to the post season just once, that lady lover of a women's basketball coach got a raise/extension and has repeatedly pissed away her talent...and now some dude comes in here and gets (a) good players and (b) wins games and (c) fills up that OOD and these f'ing morons in the AD office think "we can get someone better".  Seriously?  Christ almighty, if they let frank go all that momentum that has basically crushed 20 years of losing will be lost.  We f'ing didn't rush the court after beating the #1 team in the nation....because we f'ing expected to win.  

January 19, 2010, 09:47:15 AM
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January 19, 2010, 09:47:30 AM
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curry has no clue to the hell and fury that will be unleashed on him if he ends up being responsible for frank & co leaving. no clue.

the first thing that went through my head when i read this was "is currie suicidal".  because, should he fail to retain martin, some noble kstatriot would definitely john wilkes booth him within the month.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

January 19, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
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christ, we gave old balls more money.

infuriating.  it's like kstate is looking for new ways to slap martin in the face.
"these are no longer “games” in the commonly accepted sense of the term. these are free throw shooting contests leavened by the occasional sprint to the other end of the floor."

January 19, 2010, 09:51:06 AM
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is this gonna be similar to the Mike Leach vs. Tech crap? If so, i don't like the way that one ended.
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January 19, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
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January 19, 2010, 09:56:25 AM
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January 19, 2010, 09:56:51 AM
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I wonder how recent this information is?  :dunno:

January 19, 2010, 09:58:02 AM
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Emails sent.  Told him that he does not want the Angriest Fanbase in America to turn on him.  It would not end well for him.   :piratecaptain:

January 19, 2010, 09:59:35 AM
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January 19, 2010, 10:00:04 AM
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I was sitting on this information, but given last night's developments, I'd say it's time to spill.

There seems to be some hesitancy by the current athletic director to give Frank a significant raise. Negotiations are on-going, and while I'm not going to get into specific numbers, what he's been offered is still under $1M per season. There has been the suggestion that Frank hasn't done anything just yet to warrant a bigger raise, but again, given last night's developments, the atmosphere at the Octagon and how the Wildcats are legitimately national media darlings, I tend to disagree with that.

It's almost as if the current athletic director is daring Frank to leave or attempting to force his hand, as if he has someone else in mind to bring in when or if that happens. This, of course, is conjecture on my part, but actions - or lack thereof - speak loudly, no?

The man deserves a raise.




I strongly believe Currie was waiting for a performance like this before he puts the ink to paper.  Granted Martin has done a hell of a job, we were only 3 games into conference before last night.  I'm going to give Currie the benefit of the doubt and assume hes not a total RAtard.  He was just waiting for a game like this before he decided how many "0's" went after the "1."    

January 19, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
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KITN would not accurately summarize what this would mean.

January 19, 2010, 10:01:38 AM
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I was sitting on this information, but given last night's developments, I'd say it's time to spill.

There seems to be some hesitancy by the current athletic director to give Frank a significant raise. Negotiations are on-going, and while I'm not going to get into specific numbers, what he's been offered is still under $1M per season. There has been the suggestion that Frank hasn't done anything just yet to warrant a bigger raise, but again, given last night's developments, the atmosphere at the Octagon and how the Wildcats are legitimately national media darlings, I tend to disagree with that.

It's almost as if the current athletic director is daring Frank to leave or attempting to force his hand, as if he has someone else in mind to bring in when or if that happens. This, of course, is conjecture on my part, but actions - or lack thereof - speak loudly, no?

The man deserves a raise.




 :baityes:  your fishing right??? surely Currie isn't that stupid..

January 19, 2010, 10:02:46 AM
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Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

January 19, 2010, 10:04:13 AM
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Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

Well put.
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January 19, 2010, 10:05:30 AM
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Called and left a message with his sec. Rita. Very nice gal. No pursestrings to pull on my part, but voiced my opinion.

She stated that she will forward my concern to ADJC. However, we all know that without the phone ringing off the hook, he will not hear of our concerns!
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January 19, 2010, 10:09:07 AM
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Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

If Bill truly loves KSU, he should work for like 900k.  But Bill only loves Bill.

January 19, 2010, 10:09:36 AM
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I agree that he needs a raise, but we can't forget the assistants too. We have a awesome program here. One thing that we need to remember when paying coaches that we are competing with other colleges. The national media has noticed Frank, so have all the division one colleges. We have been wanting a awesome basketball program since the 80's and now that we have one we better keep it. The other thing we need to think of too is Martin's wish list for the program like practice facilities. It's good that we are thinking of this now instead of reacting to a college that is knocking on Frank's door. This should/better get addressed at the end of the season.

  I hope that the Martin family and coaching staff families likes Manhattan that would be a plus in holding them too.

  

January 19, 2010, 10:09:59 AM
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Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

yeah, will be awesome to see how much money we can save on hiring Chris Lowery or Gregg Marshall.  We won't have to worry about the expenses related to (a) staffing games with as many attendant or concession workers (b) recruiting budgets (c) pesky staffing for special events like big monday or gameday......because no one will f'ing come to the games.  

it would be f'ing absurd not to sign frank for his worth.  it would cost us far more in revenue than the "expense" we would "save".  Currie should know this, and if he doesn't he (and Shultz) should be fired.

January 19, 2010, 10:10:07 AM
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Some of this goes back to the gift that keeps giving: Bob Krause.

He locked Snyder into that contract, which raised everyone's eyebrows - $1.85 million per year? Then, what you essentially did, was blow the salary structure out of whack. K-State isn't Texas, where almost $8 million is tied into salaries for the football coach ($5 million per) and the basketball coach ($2.2 million). It's not OU, OSU, etc. Even in the North, it feels it's not ku (both coaches at $2 million annually) or MU (not sure what Anderson is making, but Pinkel is over $2 million).

As we all know by now, K-State likes to do things on the cheap. The school isn't going to pay its football coach and basketball coach a combined $3.5-4 million. Not going to happen. And with the Prince saga yet to be resolved, the current athletic director is going to ride the fiscal responsibility/restraint train because he thinks that will appease the masses. But what he doesn't realize is that K-Staters are also fair, and they - at least most of you - believe that Frank deserves a substantial raise.

This doesn't surprise me at all. If it was the old administration, I'd blame it on the 'poor boy' syndrome, but I think BK is the bigger reason in this.

January 19, 2010, 10:10:16 AM
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I wish you were still working for the Eagle/Star so this info might possibly get out there and force Currie's hand.