auto-tune

[steve dave]

Enough is enough or the best is yet to come?  Wayne/Kanye used the living f^ck out of it and made absolute magic.  Now, honestly, people are annoying the hell out of me off with it.  I wonder if this happened after Peter Frampton made his guitar talk?  Would like some michigancat input on this......

[steve dave]

As a follow up (non auto-tune related) because I don't want to start too many new threads:

Best opening 5 seconds in music video history?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppNC0uAaCv0

[Pete]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

[steve dave]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

[Pete]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

[steve dave]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

 

[Pete]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

 

Turn that frown upside down Steven.  It's nobody's business what's on your iPod.

[steve dave]

Speaking of Wayne

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PglfNDepTyQ

[chum1]

As a follow up (non auto-tune related) because I don't want to start too many new threads:

Best opening 5 seconds in music video history?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppNC0uAaCv0

Most menacing rock skip in music video history, for sure.  Although not auto-tune, it is talk box related - a la Frampton.  

This is my fave featuring warehouse and people in chairs.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZW9NYX6JZA

[steve dave]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

 

Turn that frown upside down Steven.  It's nobody's business what's on your iPod.

Trust me bro, I will never be embarrassed by Wayne on my iPod.  

[Rick Daris]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

love you. couldn't disagree more though.

[ChicagoCat]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

I think it depends on the role they play in making the music.  If they help make the music or arrange it or even write it they can be artists.  If they are just singing words others have written to music others have made, they are performers.  Just imho

[Tuggles]

SD does Wayne write his own sh*t or does someone ghostwrite it for him?  I feel like dying is one of my fav trax to get blazed to.

[steve dave]

SD does Wayne write his own sh*t or does someone ghostwrite it for him?  I feel like dying is one of my fav trax to get blazed to.

I think he does everything on his own.  Records 24/7

[dohminator]

This is the best use of autotune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dqTrUpmwPg

[Pike]

I think you are holding the "artists" that use this stuff in too high of esteem. 

Are you saying Wayne isn't an artist?  Actually had this argument with mrs. dave about 2 hours ago. 

Meh, you'll have to ask SuperG or Russ about the fancy stuff, but mostly I think people who play instruments are "artists,", and the rest are "entertainers." 

Couldn't agree more actually. People who play instruments are the real talent. People who don't just put on a show with their personalities. See Michael Jackson.

[michigancat]

A couple thoughts:

1)  I still think the best of Autotune is yet to come, but you can't just do it half-assed and get away with it any more.  So, maybe from now on you won't here autotune on every song on the pop charts, but it will be used well when it makes it there.

2)  As far as you jackasses who think that people who don't "play instruments" aren't talented, you can GTFOOMF.  You mean to tell me Michael Jackson wasn't talented?    Personality/dance moves isn't a talent?  You think Michael Jackson was just born moonwalking the f*ck out of people and making bitches faint, or do you think it took some work? You think Aretha Franklin's voice isn't an instrument?  You think she isn't talented because she isn't strumming some stupid guitar?  Eat a bag of dicks if you think Aretha Franklin isn't talented.  Eat a large bag of large dicks.

3)  Actually saw Chromeo at Bonnaroo.  You should go, SD.

[Bookcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA

[waks]

Lil Wayne blows. BLOWS.


Everything Kanye West put out before 808s and Heartbreak was great, after Graduation it gets bad real fast.


Best auto-tuned song out right now...

[sonofdaxjones]

Sad how little talent you have to have (in some cases absolutely none) to make it "big" anymore.

Just have and act and auto-tune . . . your set.

I wouldn't mind $hit like auto tune so much if I knew the person using it could actually sing and they were just using it for some type of effect or a different feel in some songs.

[steve dave]

Sad how little talent you have to have (in some cases absolutely none) to make it "big" anymore.

Just have and act and auto-tune . . . your set.

I wouldn't mind $hit like auto tune so much if I knew the person using it could actually sing and they were just using it for some type of effect or a different feel in some songs.

OK, we can all laugh at KSU Super Fan T-Pain.  But, most people who have utilized it already had very successful careers pre-autotune (Waye/Kanye being the two most discussed in this thread)

[pissclams]

you know what auto_tune song I like?  I love?  Disturbia by Rhianna.  Great "jam"

[Oklahoma_Cat]

My only beef (?) with auto-tune is when people use it to try and cover up the fact that they have no abilities.  Otherwise, it's all game.

I don't know if this has anything to do with auto-tune/etc., but i'm pretty glad that you don't hear much out of "Moby" anymore. 

[chum1]

Some of you need to do a better job of being snobby.  I'll help.

Entertainers known primarily for "putting on a show" (like Kanye or KISS) are like blockbuster action movies.  They lack substance and are intended for the mindless and easily amused.  Similarly, auto-tune is like the latest special effect used in blockbuster action movies.  It can make some cool sounds, but it's not like it does anything worthwhile beyond that.

[michigancat]

Entertainers known primarily for "putting on a show" (like Kanye

EEEENNNNNKKKKKK!!!!!  WRONG!

[chum1]

Entertainers known primarily for "putting on a show" (like Kanye

EEEENNNNNKKKKKK!!!!!  WRONG!

He's not known as a producer.

[pissclams]

Entertainers known primarily for "putting on a show" (like Kanye

EEEENNNNNKKKKKK!!!!!  WRONG!

He's not known as a producer.

kanye started his career as a producer and is universally known as a really good one.  the blueprint. 

[Chingon]

Auto-tune is a tool, just like a synthesizer, it takes art and skill to use it well.

[chum1]

kanye started his career as a producer and is universally known as a really good one.  the blueprint. 

No one says, "Hey, let's go see Kanye.  He used to be a really good producer."  Which do you prefer:  his rapping or his singing?

[ECN]

Lil Wayne blows. BLOWS.


Everything Kanye West put out before 808s and Heartbreak was great, after Graduation it gets bad real fast.


Best auto-tuned song out right now...

lil wayne does NOT blow.

selling out now tho. but still good.