It's Harbaugh

[sys]

couldn't have worked out any more perfect for ku.

well, tyshawn taylor could have not continued breaking their hearts.  would have been more perfect.

[fatty fat fat]

Harbaugh is a great hire.  I'll go ahead and assume that if you're a kid and could go play for young hotness or old balls, you're going to go play for young hotness.  and I'm not talking about just kansas kids.  the kc media is going to fall all over themselves for Jim.

JFC...we thought this about Prince/Franklin/Morris

holy cow....recruiting dynamos, they were not

no, we convinced ourselves of this with no proof whatsoever because none of them had ever accomplished anything in their coaching career. I posted this a few days ago, but....

Harbaugh: overall record as a head coach 46-25, beat #24 Washington, #7 oregon, #11 USC, took Stanford which hadn't had a winning season in the 5 years prior to his arrival and has them at 8-4 in 3 years.

No one knew Prince or Raheem or James Franklin (except sucky Josh Freeman).  Everyone knows Harbaugh.  Everyone.

he's 13-14. he won at a 1-aa school.

everyne knew about charlie weiss as well.

young hotness.  w/ a heisman canidate RB (and Doak Walker award winner).  he's going to get to strut around on ESPN for an hour, then a press conference on monday to announce his hiring.  couldn't have worked out any more perfect for ku.

catzacker, like i've said before. you're a little bitch.

you will make any weird ammeds to your argument.

harbaguh is 13-14. he didn't even recruit gerhardt. his qb is there because his parents understand how big of a deal a stanford degree is in our world.

[mcmwcat]

couldn't have worked out any more perfect for ku.

well, tyshawn taylor could have not continued breaking their hearts.  would have been more perfect.

tyshawn taylor -> <- curtis kelly

[wiley03]

Harbaugh is a great hire.  I'll go ahead and assume that if you're a kid and could go play for young hotness or old balls, you're going to go play for young hotness.  and I'm not talking about just kansas kids.  the kc media is going to fall all over themselves for Jim.

JFC...we thought this about Prince/Franklin/Morris

holy cow....recruiting dynamos, they were not

no, we convinced ourselves of this with no proof whatsoever because none of them had ever accomplished anything in their coaching career. I posted this a few days ago, but....

Harbaugh: overall record as a head coach 46-25, beat #24 Washington, #7 oregon, #11 USC, took Stanford which hadn't had a winning season in the 5 years prior to his arrival and has them at 8-4 in 3 years.

No one knew Prince or Raheem or James Franklin (except sucky Josh Freeman).  Everyone knows Harbaugh.  Everyone.

Franklin was a salty recruiter at Maryland, Princess was pretty solid at UVA.  HC wise, your are 100% correct.  I agree Harbaugh is a solid hire, but i think I'm sure Lew was looking for name recognition over substance.

Harbaugh
SDU - 29-6 (2 conference titles *pioneer conference*)  
Stanford - 17-19

Tubberville
Ole Miss - 25-20
Auburn - 85-40 (5 division titles) (1 conference title  *SEC*  ) and he understands what 1 bad hire on the staff can destroy your program.  

Think we have a shot at Tubberville when Snyder leaves? (probably not

[catzacker]

Harbaugh is a great hire.  I'll go ahead and assume that if you're a kid and could go play for young hotness or old balls, you're going to go play for young hotness.  and I'm not talking about just kansas kids.  the kc media is going to fall all over themselves for Jim.

JFC...we thought this about Prince/Franklin/Morris

holy cow....recruiting dynamos, they were not

no, we convinced ourselves of this with no proof whatsoever because none of them had ever accomplished anything in their coaching career. I posted this a few days ago, but....

Harbaugh: overall record as a head coach 46-25, beat #24 Washington, #7 oregon, #11 USC, took Stanford which hadn't had a winning season in the 5 years prior to his arrival and has them at 8-4 in 3 years.

No one knew Prince or Raheem or James Franklin (except sucky Josh Freeman).  Everyone knows Harbaugh.  Everyone.

he's 13-14. he won at a 1-aa school.

everyne knew about charlie weiss as well.

young hotness.  w/ a heisman canidate RB (and Doak Walker award winner).  he's going to get to strut around on ESPN for an hour, then a press conference on monday to announce his hiring.  couldn't have worked out any more perfect for ku.

catzacker, like i've said before. you're a little bitch.

you will make any weird ammeds to your argument.

harbaguh is 13-14. he didn't even recruit gerhardt. his qb is there because his parents understand how big of a deal a stanford degree is in our world.

Harbaugh's a monster.  He can recruit and coach'em up.  We should just focus on basketball.   

[The42Yardstick]

Fantastic work, Beemer. A++++++ thread, would read again

[fatty fat fat]

Harbaugh is a great hire.  I'll go ahead and assume that if you're a kid and could go play for young hotness or old balls, you're going to go play for young hotness.  and I'm not talking about just kansas kids.  the kc media is going to fall all over themselves for Jim.

JFC...we thought this about Prince/Franklin/Morris

holy cow....recruiting dynamos, they were not

no, we convinced ourselves of this with no proof whatsoever because none of them had ever accomplished anything in their coaching career. I posted this a few days ago, but....

Harbaugh: overall record as a head coach 46-25, beat #24 Washington, #7 oregon, #11 USC, took Stanford which hadn't had a winning season in the 5 years prior to his arrival and has them at 8-4 in 3 years.

No one knew Prince or Raheem or James Franklin (except sucky Josh Freeman).  Everyone knows Harbaugh.  Everyone.

he's 13-14. he won at a 1-aa school.

everyne knew about charlie weiss as well.

young hotness.  w/ a heisman canidate RB (and Doak Walker award winner).  he's going to get to strut around on ESPN for an hour, then a press conference on monday to announce his hiring.  couldn't have worked out any more perfect for ku.

catzacker, like i've said before. you're a little bitch.

you will make any weird ammeds to your argument.

harbaguh is 13-14. he didn't even recruit gerhardt. his qb is there because his parents understand how big of a deal a stanford degree is in our world.

Harbaugh's a monster.  He can recruit and coach'em up.  We should just focus on basketball.   

<<<===pointing at you, smiling. 

[wiley03]

Fantastic work, Beemer. A++++++ thread, would read again

bored at work...slow day, tubberville fan if you can't tell

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Wasn't Harbaugh a #1 pick? He spent enough years in the NFL that I find it hard to believe that $1M vs. $2.5M would be that big of a deal for a job (either ku or Stanford) that you only intend on being at for another year, or two at the most. If he takes the job...it isn't for the money.

Unless you have a voracious apetite for coke.

[JTKSU]

Wasn't Harbaugh a #1 pick? He spent enough years in the NFL that I find it hard to believe that $1M vs. $2.5M would be that big of a deal for a job (either ku or Stanford) that you only intend on being at for another year, or two at the most. If he takes the job...it isn't for the money.

Unless you have a voracious apetite for coke.

Dude was a #1 pick in 1987.  Never made an active roster after 2000.  No way he made enough money to look at 1.5 mil and think it's not important.  It a million and a half god damn dollars.  Just cause a dude might have a couple million in the bank doesn't mean he wouldn't like to have a few more.  He's not &@#%ing Warren Buffett here.  And even if he was, you think Warren Buffett wouldn't want an extra 1.5 million per year, even with his billions?

[wiley03]

I would already be sitting in my new office in Lawrence if i were him.  Or have the moving truck sitting outside my house at least.

[PowercatPat]

Harbaugh is a great hire.  I'll go ahead and assume that if you're a kid and could go play for young hotness or old balls, you're going to go play for young hotness.  and I'm not talking about just kansas kids.  the kc media is going to fall all over themselves for Jim.

JFC...we thought this about Prince/Franklin/Morris

holy cow....recruiting dynamos, they were not

no, we convinced ourselves of this with no proof whatsoever because none of them had ever accomplished anything in their coaching career. I posted this a few days ago, but....

Harbaugh: overall record as a head coach 46-25, beat #24 Washington, #7 oregon, #11 USC, took Stanford which hadn't had a winning season in the 5 years prior to his arrival and has them at 8-4 in 3 years.

No one knew Prince or Raheem or James Franklin (except sucky Josh Freeman).  Everyone knows Harbaugh.  Everyone.

Franklin was a salty recruiter at Maryland, Princess was pretty solid at UVA.  HC wise, your are 100% correct.  I agree Harbaugh is a solid hire, but i think I'm sure Lew was looking for name recognition over substance.

Harbaugh
SDU - 29-6 (2 conference titles *pioneer conference*)  
Stanford - 17-19

Tubberville
Ole Miss - 25-20
Auburn - 85-40 (5 division titles) (1 conference title  *SEC*  ) and he understands what 1 bad hire on the staff can destroy your program.  

Think we have a shot at Tubberville when Snyder leaves? (probably not

Why wouldn't we have a shot at Tuberville? He wanted the ku job so why wouldn't he want the K-State job?

[Legore]

Wasn't Harbaugh a #1 pick? He spent enough years in the NFL that I find it hard to believe that $1M vs. $2.5M would be that big of a deal for a job (either ku or Stanford) that you only intend on being at for another year, or two at the most. If he takes the job...it isn't for the money.

Unless you have a voracious apetite for coke.

Dude was a #1 pick in 1987.  Never made an active roster after 2000.  No way he made enough money to look at 1.5 mil and think it's not important.  It a million and a half god damn dollars.  Just cause a dude might have a couple million in the bank doesn't mean he wouldn't like to have a few more.  He's not fracking Warren Buffett here.  And even if he was, you think Warren Buffett wouldn't want an extra 1.5 million per year, even with his billions?

Cost of living is crazy in Palo Alto too.  If there is one place where you can make 1.2 million and really not be wealthy it is out there.  Don't get me wrong it's still a nice living and all but  an average run of the mill house is probably going to run about a million bucks out there.   

[wiley03]

he'll be coaching somewhere by the time snyder leaves is more what i was getting at.

[wiley03]

Wasn't Harbaugh a #1 pick? He spent enough years in the NFL that I find it hard to believe that $1M vs. $2.5M would be that big of a deal for a job (either ku or Stanford) that you only intend on being at for another year, or two at the most. If he takes the job...it isn't for the money.

Unless you have a voracious apetite for coke.

Dude was a #1 pick in 1987.  Never made an active roster after 2000.  No way he made enough money to look at 1.5 mil and think it's not important.  It a million and a half god damn dollars.  Just cause a dude might have a couple million in the bank doesn't mean he wouldn't like to have a few more.  He's not fracking Warren Buffett here.  And even if he was, you think Warren Buffett wouldn't want an extra 1.5 million per year, even with his billions?

Cost of living is crazy in Palo Alto too.  If there is one place where you can make 1.2 million and really not be wealthy it is out there.  Don't get me wrong it's still a nice living and all but  an average run of the mill house is probably going to run about a million bucks out there.   

read somewhere that the AD has setup some kind of housing arrangements for coaches (no freaking clue what it meant, didn't go into much for details)

[Andy]

ku fans really setting themselves up for a fall, way worse than "its patterson" b/c we "got" Snyder so most KSU fans were at worst lukewarm on it, least not totally crushed.  but to go from harbaugh to gill would be a disaster for everyone involved overthere.  feel bad for gill, he's gonna get a raw deal, but thats the game and lew is pretty evil and plays the game well.  all or nothing for ku fans here.

[1992]

Denial is a b!otch.

 

[Dooley]

The money might be better spent hiring Toby Gerhart.

The QB is pretty good there as well.

This hire will get people donating money.  He'll be the anti Mangino and will have no problem shaking hands and kissing baby's at alumni functions.  Lew will get his grid iron club with this hire.  Just look at the phog/shiver/slant.  They are all moist at the rumor and ready to open there checkbooks before he puts any kind of product on the field.  I'm all for blind faith in football as well, especially since we'll likely go back to sucking when Snyder is gone.

But it will be interesting to see what Harbaugh does with his personnel if he goes to Kansas.  Another reason why he may take the job, look at ku's schedule the next two years in conference.  Relatively easy no tech, ou, texas...perfect to build up the resume for the NFL. (which is where i think he goes even if he is mediocre at ku)
Jim was after the NY Jets job supposedly this past off season

Good Hire for the purpose you are wanting Lew 

This is the most level headed post I've read on this thread along with catzacker.  If Harbaugh does in fact take the job and he is not just using the offer to get more money at Stanford, he very well may be in the NFL (Bears in two years).  The Grid Iron club will be built.  His record over the next two years will be respectable partly due to the schedule and ku won't feel shy about targeting high profile candidates for his replacement.  Win-Win. 

[Leftcoast cat]

Some observations about the Harbaugh situation from the "ground":

1. Stanford has about 17 fans who care about football.   The other 10K are still making fun of Cal fans for not getting into stanford.

2. Stanford is loaded with $$.  However, they are cheap.  Won't even give free gym access to hospital docs

3. 13-14...and Toby did all of the work. Pick reminds me of alan evridge

However

4. Its 60 degrees in palo alto...on a cool day...in january

5. Someone as beautiful as harbaugh deserves beautiful california mistresses...of different colors....
    You know, its nice to taste ice-cream of different flavors

6. Any kid with any brain and athletic ability goes to stanford

7.  Jesus, its ku??? its easier to beat cal or wazzu than face pinkel every year

[sonofdaxjones]

Good hire for ku if true.

Good for K-State as well, Jim won't run some kind of hard to defense spread, look at the sideline chuck and duck offense like Mangino did.  Harbaugh will run a style of offense that the K-State defense will see nearly every day in practice from their own offense . . . possibly even a little more conservative at times.

I'd say one red flag is the fact that Stanford had a Heisman Candidate lining up in the backfield and still got worked by a very average Cal team at home, and barely beat a 6-6 Notre Dame team.   I'll glady take ku with Harbaugh over somebody like Sumlin.

[Bookcat]

Harbaugh is the fancy pick this year with absolutely no track record of long term success on his resume.

His name being thrown around this year discredits the total suckage that was Stanford every year prior to this one..and he rode a running back he never recruited all the way.



Sounds like a perfect fit for ku actually.

[cireksu]

Get it done Lew!

[catzacker]

Harbaugh is the fancy pick this year with absolutely no track record of long term success on his resume.
His name being thrown around this year discredits the total suckage that was Stanford every year prior to this one..and he rode a running back he never recruited all the way.



Sounds like a perfect fit for ku actually.

dude, stanford hadn't had a winning season in the 5 years prior to his arrival and he got them to 8-4 in 3 years and beat ranked teams in the process.  he's, at worst, another mangino.  meanwhile, chris cosh is out recruiting no one (besides his next of kin) right now, vic is trying like hell to get out of manhattan, and it's going on a decade since snyds landed an impact qb. 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

Nice run y'all had.

Enjoy him for two years

[nicname]

2.8 mil goes a lot farther in Lowrents.

This.  1 mill in BSFBA(beautiful san francisco bay area) is peanuts.  2.8 mill in flyover country is Scroodgeville.

[CrushNasty]

uk fans are hilarious:

ryanmgreene Man, if #Harbaugh comes to #ku , no one will be licking their chops more than Toben Opurum. He's the EXACT SAME player as Toby Gerhart!!!

gavinesq @wyntonmarsalis Word on the street is that you're a big fan of #kufball. Is Harbaugh the right guy for the Jayhawkks?

gavinesq @KimCattrall Word is you're a huge #Jayhawks and #kufball fan. What do you think of the pending Harbaugh hire? Personally, I love it.

gavinesq @FreddiePrinzeJr You've GOT to be a #kufball fan. Is Harbaugh the right guy?

[nicname]

I'll just say this.  I don't think it is a slam-dunk hire(ala Tubberville, Patterson, etc.)  I do think it is a good hire, and if I were a ku fan I would be pleased.

[snyderfanatic]

Losing record as a 1-A coach and at least one DUI, solid fit at ku

[Panjandrum]

Good hire for ku if true.

Good for K-State as well, Jim won't run some kind of hard to defense spread, look at the sideline chuck and duck offense like Mangino did.  Harbaugh will run a style of offense that the K-State defense will see nearly every day in practice from their own offense . . . possibly even a little more conservative at times.

I'd say one red flag is the fact that Stanford had a Heisman Candidate lining up in the backfield and still got worked by a very average Cal team at home, and barely beat a 6-6 Notre Dame team.   I'll glady take ku with Harbaugh over somebody like Sumlin.

I agree with all points.

Hiring JH accomplishes two things:

1) You prove you can go out and hire an "it" coach who's stock is as high as it's probably ever going to get
2) Hiring said coach allows you to raise the money you need to complete the facility upgrades you've planned

Harbaugh shouldn't scare the average KSU fan in terms of strategic ability, recruiting ability, etc.  He's pretty 'meh' overall.  But hiring him allows you to accomplish some big picture things that set you up over the long haul because most ku fans/donors aren't savvy enough to know the difference.

It's crazy how long-term planning and strategic thinking works.

[most likely, jesuuuus]

hahaha BMW is destroying recently. so funny