ku is a better job than K-State

[steve dave]

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=47600.0

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Since when is Turner Gill and Hoston Nutt any kind of buzz?

A has been and a never will be?  wow.  buzzzzzzzzz

 

Gill and Nutt were smokescreens.  The first coach to interview is rarely the one that gets hired.  Your coaching search IQ is an absolute embarrassment.

Buzz = public discussion usually in media.  The only names in the paper were those 2 losers.  Something that is being kept secret is not "buzz"

I swear I am going to start a "Sports 101" class for idiots and posers like BMW.

[Guscat]

K-State was the first D-1 football program to reach 500 losses, and you clowns have the audacity to say ku can't be successful in football.  K-State just needs about 30 straight wins against ku to even the all-time series.

Once again, it has been proven that you can win consistently at K-State, and it has never been proven that you can win consistently at ku. Also, I do not understand the logic of Lew still trying to raise $34 million for the Gridiron Club. ku can't even fill up their normal stadium capacity as it is, and there has been little financial support of this plan from the very beginning.

Reality is irrelevant.  Lew is showing spreadsheets with revenue fantasies that would make plaid-pantsed salesmen blush.  The man is dishonest to the core, which is perfect for an athletic dept like ku's.  It's amazing how you can plug and manipulate figures in Excel, and all it takes is an impressionable audience.  Now, what more audience is more impressionable than the ku fan base and hangers-on?

[powercat5000]

ku is still building a gridiron club.  It won't take any longer to finance than K-State's basketball facility that still hasn't been touched.

Face it, your gridiron club is gonna fall on its face- ksu's basketball facility will be built.

[Dick Knewheizel]

2 Questions:

1)  WTF is a gridiron club?  Sounds cool, but seems like it would be in Pittsburg or Cleveland or something.

2)  When is our basketball things supposed to be built? 
I thought they were going to use STAR bonds or something to finance half of it, but the Muni bond market fell flat on its face last fall ('08) and hasn't really come back.  Can't imagine that's still a financing possibility.  I'm just glad we didn't sink a bunch of money into a project based on the promises of a felon (Kivisto) and two other guys that have all their money tied up in RE (= zero cash).

[MadCat]

Waffleiron Club would be better, IMO. 

[Bookcat]

but Kstate is a better job than Buffalo.

see what  i did there??

[Bookcat]

Lew's trying to raise $34 million for a gridiron club, and you mongoloids think he's going to hire Bill Miller as head coach.  Good grief.

no. he one upped us.

he brought on a "meh" hire for all that money.  This fairy tale pool of limitless money got you a guy that didn't even go to a bowl with his new and improved MAC team.

[BMWJhawk]

You're not fooling anyone, Bookcat.  You're trembling in fear at the thought of Gill dominating the Big 12 North.  Just admit it.

[QuinnMac]

You're not fooling anyone, Bookcat.  You're trembling in fear at the thought of Gill dominating the Big 12 North.  Just admit it.

My instincts tell me you fell like this --> on the inside.

[ksu007]

ku is a much much better job.  It really can't be argued.

One 12-1 season now the program is elite..


                  Final ranking  in the Big 12 North Starting in 1996
Kansas         5 4 5 4 5 6 6 4 5 5 4 2 3 6 4
Kansas State 3 2 1 1 1 4 2 1 5 6 2 4 4 3 3

[PowercatPat]

You're not fooling anyone, Bookcat.  You're trembling in fear at the thought of Gill dominating the Big 12 North.  Just admit it.

Why would anyone be scared of a coach that has a 20-30 career record while coaching in the MAC?

[Bookcat]

You're not fooling anyone, Bookcat.  You're trembling in fear at the thought of Gill dominating the Big 12 North.  Just admit it.

i'll put 50 bucks in escrow right now that Gill is a failure...and by failure..I mean fails to get ku a Division title...or are you content with not achieveing that...as long as you beat Kstate or MU?

[Catfanatic]

bmw I can't ever tell if you are messing with people or if you are being serious, sarcasm is very difficult to project on the computer.

If you are serious though, one question? Why did Dr. Tom pass over TF to hire Pelini if TF is such a great coach? I think he is a solid hire, but as for dominating the north? Not going to happen and even if it did you know as well as I do, Dr. Tom will get on the phone and tell TF it is time to come home.

ku is kind of screwed either way IMO.

[ednksu]

Not even arguable after the last couple coaching searches by each program.

Come on man....you're better than that.

It's not even up for debate.  Prince was a joke, and Snyder was a desperation hire.  ku has been mentioned with more big name coaches and is generating a lot more buzz.

haven't read all the thread but I had to stop here.  You are sooooooo &@#%ing delusional.  You got played but not just one coach but TWO who wanted new contracts.

[~WabashRoll~]

Of course ku's garbage football program isn't a better job, but thanks to Lew's penchant for vast over spending, it is a much better bargaining chip than K-State. 

I'm actually surprised there weren't some more "big names" in line for an easy raise.  Of course, you devalue your reputation and tarnish a degree of credibility in coaching circles for even associating yourself with this type of second rate program, but at the end of the day if it get's you an extension and a couple hundred more K in your pocket it's probably worth it.

[LimestoneOutcropping]

Of course ku's garbage football program isn't a better job, but thanks to Lew's penchant for vast over spending, it is a much better bargaining chip than K-State. 

I'm actually surprised there weren't some more "big names" in line for an easy raise.  Of course, you devalue your reputation and tarnish a degree of credibility in coaching circles for even associating yourself with this type of second rate program, but at the end of the day if it get's you an extension and a couple hundred more K in your pocket it's probably worth it.

Money talks.  Some guys will do anything for it.  Harbaugh can simply deny he even had interest.  The only one who looks bad out of this disaster is TT.

[Andy]

Of course ku's garbage football program isn't a better job, but thanks to Lew's penchant for vast over spending, it is a much better bargaining chip than K-State. 

I'm actually surprised there weren't some more "big names" in line for an easy raise.  Of course, you devalue your reputation and tarnish a degree of credibility in coaching circles for even associating yourself with this type of second rate program, but at the end of the day if it get's you an extension and a couple hundred more K in your pocket it's probably worth it.

I think most AD's would laugh if their coach used ukans as "leverage" toward a bigger deal and call their bluff.  didnt work for nutt.  harbaugh was getting a raise either way, as was sumlin.  for levitt and patterson, their AD's knew it was legitimate they could leave.

[~WabashRoll~]

Of course ku's garbage football program isn't a better job, but thanks to Lew's penchant for vast over spending, it is a much better bargaining chip than K-State. 

I'm actually surprised there weren't some more "big names" in line for an easy raise.  Of course, you devalue your reputation and tarnish a degree of credibility in coaching circles for even associating yourself with this type of second rate program, but at the end of the day if it get's you an extension and a couple hundred more K in your pocket it's probably worth it.

I think most AD's would laugh if their coach used ukans as "leverage" toward a bigger deal and call their bluff.  didnt work for nutt.  harbaugh was getting a raise either way, as was sumlin.  for levitt and patterson, their AD's knew it was legitimate they could leave.

At the end of the day, money talks and Lew was paying Mangs close to $2.5 a million a year with incentives.  The reason there's some contract leverage is because that evidence actually exists. 

The funny thing with Harbaugh is that even with a raise and contract extension he'll still be making substantially less at Stanford than he would have at ku.  Just goes to prove how irrelevant that job still is, even with the ludicrous money they are willing to spend on it.


 

[wildcat79]

BMW your Liberal elietism isn't getting it done.  You need some counciling dude. Probably should go back over to the ku board where ever that is. I mean you constantly and consistantly say the dumbest things. It's good entertainment and all but sheeesh!  I have some ku friends and they do seem to be consumed by our is bigger and better than yours. Please. Oh and while you're at it. Try to get some race sensitivity training. You seem to have issues over color. Man oh Man. Your new football coach will succeed based upon his succeeses or failures, not his color!