More ku FP's

[sonofdaxjones]

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/dec/02/ex-player-accuses-mangino-mistreatment/

ku had AstroPlay turf at the time, and while it's somewhat similar to FieldTurf, it still used a Teflon coated padding underneath which trapped the heat, similar to what they used for older AstroTurf fields, FieldTurf doesn't use padding.   I recall Illinois Memorial Stadium had AstroPlay for a couple of years while the Bears were redoing Solider Field.   The Bear players were complaining that the field was burning their feet during August practices.  

[stormnut]

Negotiations for a buy out must not be going well.

[Dirty Sanchez]

If this guys hands were getting burnt and mangina was walking alongside, I can just imagine the smell of bacon emanating from memorial stadium.

[chum1]

Mangino is a jerk for saying some of the stuff he does, but every time I read one of these former player stories I think, "Man, what a whiny FP."

[WillieWannabe]

“I’m doing this,” Kipp said, “because I’ve got proof how horrible a coach he is.”

Good God

[pissclams]

none of this is news, we've known for years what a bunch of FP's ku has brought through their program

[pissclams]

If this guys hands were getting burnt and mangina was walking alongside, I can just imagine the smell of bacon emanating from memorial stadium.

and that's funny 

[Bookcat]

Kipp, wouldn't you rather die on your hand(s) than to live on your knees? or something like that....

[chum1]

Also, if your name is Kipp, you don't need to tell your story.  We already know you're a FP.

[SkinnyBenny]

That's pretty crazy.  Craziness over there in L-Town. 

[kcchiefdav]

It seems to me that old stuff like this doesn't really help the university's case that much. In a mediation, they can't say "he hurt a play by accident 5 years ago. We heard about it and choose not to punish him at the time, but now we want to fire him with cause because of that incident."

[SkinnyBenny]

Player didn't go to the athletic department five years ago.

[willie83]

This crap is worse than what was going on at Guantanamo. ku football should be shut down.

[pwrcat1]

I'm gonna be honest... This kid sounds like a total f*cking vagina.

[catdude33]

I bet he never casually decided not to weigh-in after that.  The end justifies the means.

[pwrcat1]

However, Kipp looks like Mad Max in comparison to the other Nancy in the article that complained the turf was making his feet hot through his socks and cleats.  Holy bahjeebers, what in the f*ck is wrong with these people?   

[jeffy]

This crap is worse than what was going on at Guantanamo. ku football should be shut down.

That's an excellent idea for a fark.... Mangino as Lyndie England... all the players as the pyramid.

[Suh4Heisman]

I'm gonna be honest... This kid sounds like a total f*cking vagina.

/belches
//grabs another handful of chips

[pwrcat1]

I'm gonna be honest... This kid sounds like a total f*cking vagina.

/belches
//grabs another handful of chips

Can not confirm whether or not he enjoys chips.  I agree that he prolly does though.  What a whiny little b*tch.  Amirite?

[flaredog]

However, Kipp looks like Mad Max in comparison to the other Nancy in the article that complained the turf was making his feet hot through his socks and cleats.  Holy bahjeebers, what in the f*ck is wrong with these people?   

The other "Nancy" was just giving a reference for how hot it must have been on someone's hands. It wasn't like he was complaining and saying "we shouldn't have even been out there, OMG, my feet!"

Holy bahjeebers, what in the f*ck is wrong with your reading comprehension?  

[pwrcat1]

However, Kipp looks like Mad Max in comparison to the other Nancy in the article that complained the turf was making his feet hot through his socks and cleats.  Holy bahjeebers, what in the f*ck is wrong with these people?   

The other "Nancy" was just giving a reference for how hot it must have been on someone's hands. It wasn't like he was complaining and saying "we shouldn't have even been out there, OMG, my feet!"

Holy bahjeebers, what in the f*ck is wrong with your reading comprehension?  

[The42Yardstick]

I'm gonna be honest... This kid sounds like a total f*cking vagina.

Dude. Second-degree burns. That sh*t's ridiculous. And then he made him practice through it and threatened to do it to him again months later. I'm surprised Kipp didn't try and put the fat man in the hospital.

Mangino needs to get the f*ck out.

[powercatpurple]

dood thought enough of it at the time to take pictures of his hands but didn't have the balls to do anything about it then...  so why bring it up now?  srsly??

and this one time at band camp....  FP's...

[The42Yardstick]

dood thought enough of it at the time to take pictures of his hands but didn't have the balls to do anything about it then...  so why bring it up now?  srsly??

He was scared that Mangino would go apesh*t on him at the time, which was probably a somewhat valid thought. He said in the article that he was pissed off at Mangino's denials about his abusive behavior, that's why he's piling on now. It's definitely not the most honorable way to do it, but it makes sense why he did it.

[BeaumontCat1%]

dood thought enough of it at the time to take pictures of his hands but didn't have the balls to do anything about it then...  so why bring it up now?  srsly??

He was scared that Mangino would go apesh*t on him at the time, which was probably a somewhat valid thought. He said in the article that he was pissed off at Mangino's denials about his abusive behavior, that's why he's piling on now. It's definitely not the most honorable way to do it, but it makes sense why he did it.

Maybe he should have just gone to the damn weigh-in when he was supposed to.  Really sucks when someone enforces consequences.

[Big Sam]

This was my response to all of the fools that are reading in and replying (they think this is evidence of Mangino hurting kids and torturing them in some way):

So, some of you think this will actually amount to something and count as grounds for dismissal?  Are you just being hopeful, or are you plain myopic.

The reality is having kids bear crawl is not going to be grounds to punish the kid.  Not even on a hot day (they happen all the time and kids practice in these conditions).  There is absolutely no evidence that Mangino risked this kid's health.  None.  Now some of you might note the blisters on the hands.  However, unless a medical report from that time is called up that showed the injuries were burn related and serious, it won't matter.  The blisters, as noted by the doctor examining the photos, could have been due to heat or friction. 

If we fired ever coach at every level who had a kid get blisters as a result of workouts/practice, there would be absolutely no coaches left.  End of story.

Heck, the injuries were treated for three days tells us they were quite minor.

Let's be honest.  Lew has always wanted to rid himself of Mangino.  MM is not his man, his boy, the guy he can count on.  This season has allowed Perkins the opening he needs to can Mangino.  However, due to Mangino's contract there must be "cause" for the firing within very defined terms, or ku athletics is on the hook for major, major money.

Well, guess what, Lew has screwed up.  Mangino is going to walk away with a ton of cash.  If he wants to continue coaching there will be an agreement reached that will pay him most of the money that would be "owed" Mangino for a firing without cause.  However, if Mangino prefers to take a few years off, maybe retire, he could hammer Lew and the University (if the try to follow through and fire without cause, or the cause is bootstrapped and wouldn't stand up in court) for a lot more money than the $6.6 million we are currently talking about.

Personally, I'm no Mangino fan.  Never have been.  However, I also realize what is going on and what is at stake.  As the saying goes Lew Perkins "screwed the pooch."

BigSam

[pwrcat1]

dood thought enough of it at the time to take pictures of his hands but didn't have the balls to do anything about it then...  so why bring it up now?  srsly??

He was scared that Mangino would go apesh*t on him at the time, which was probably a somewhat valid thought. He said in the article that he was pissed off at Mangino's denials about his abusive behavior, that's why he's piling on now. It's definitely not the most honorable way to do it, but it makes sense why he did it.

If it turns out to be true, which it likely will, then I agree with you. That would be a tough situation.  If half the accusations brought against MM are true then he deserves whats coming to him. I know this is beating a dead horse but what's ridiculous is that so many people are trying to take the moral high road and act like they care about these players.  When you're winning a players well being doesn't matter and this is true for just about any fan base.  What happens if Kipp comes forward with this stuff after the '07 season?  He gets run out of Lawrence.  Fans would have been on this board in under 5 minutes calling him a p*ssy. However, once Mangino starts losing people suddenly care about the physical and emotional scars left on ex-players?   

[jester66]

I remember in my junior year of HS; I was on the golf team.  We had to practice everyday and my hands were getting pretty raw.  So one day I ripped through a glove and didn't have a backup.  Coach made me continue my round without any thought for my physical well being. 

[Maccat]

This was my response to all of the fools that are reading in and replying (they think this is evidence of Mangino hurting kids and torturing them in some way):

So, some of you think this will actually amount to something and count as grounds for dismissal?  Are you just being hopeful, or are you plain myopic.

The reality is having kids bear crawl is not going to be grounds to punish the kid.  Not even on a hot day (they happen all the time and kids practice in these conditions).  There is absolutely no evidence that Mangino risked this kid's health.  None.  Now some of you might note the blisters on the hands.  However, unless a medical report from that time is called up that showed the injuries were burn related and serious, it won't matter.  The blisters, as noted by the doctor examining the photos, could have been due to heat or friction.  If we fired ever coach at every level who had a kid get blisters as a result of workouts/practice, there would be absolutely no coaches left.  End of story.

Heck, the injuries were treated for three days tells us they were quite minor.

Let's be honest.  Lew has always wanted to rid himself of Mangino.  MM is not his man, his boy, the guy he can count on.  This season has allowed Perkins the opening he needs to can Mangino.  However, due to Mangino's contract there must be "cause" for the firing within very defined terms, or ku athletics is on the hook for major, major money.

Well, guess what, Lew has screwed up.  Mangino is going to walk away with a ton of cash.  If he wants to continue coaching there will be an agreement reached that will pay him most of the money that would be "owed" Mangino for a firing without cause.  However, if Mangino prefers to take a few years off, maybe retire, he could hammer Lew and the University (if the try to follow through and fire without cause, or the cause is bootstrapped and wouldn't stand up in court) for a lot more money than the $6.6 million we are currently talking about.

Personally, I'm no Mangino fan.  Never have been.  However, I also realize what is going on and what is at stake.  As the saying goes Lew Perkins "screwed the pooch."

BigSam

Does any one else think that he may have been  ?    That may have caused the blisters on his hands. 

[powercatpurple]

I remember in my junior year of HS; I was on the golf team.  We had to practice everyday and my hands were getting pretty raw.  So one day I ripped through a glove and didn't have a backup.  Coach made me continue my round without any thought for my physical well being. 

woo-hoo...you gonna be rich 
Get yourself a lawyer and get in line...