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November 27, 2009, 01:24:30 AM
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There are currently 42 players in the NBA shooting 90% or better from the line.  There are 73 NCAA guys doing the same.  You can go 500 players deep (at least, the stats only go that far)  in D1 before you run into a player shooting worse than 70%.  You only have to go 226 players deep in the NBA before you see that.  These are 226 players who were all among the best in their respective conferences, if not all-Americans.  How is it that the cream of the college crop (and international crop for that matter, but the foreign born players tend to shoot free throws fairly well.) suddenly regresses in a simple skill set like that once they no longer have things like school and money concerns to worry about and interfere with their practice time?  Example, Kirk Hinrich shot 77% at uk, he is shooting 68% this year.  Seriously, go through that list, look at the NBA guys shooting in the 50s.  It's fracking pathetic. 

This is an awful argument for you.  If you want to look at the number of kids playing ball in both the NBA and college.  D1 has 10 times the teams that the NBA has.  If you want to bring up %'s of players, then you might have some validity.


I don't think any of the NBA fans have claimed that the NBA is flawless.  There are obvious flaws in the game.  The fact isthough...it is an exciting game played by guys at a high level.  The college game ihas more passion and that makes it more fun, but pay attention to a full NBA game and try to tell me that the basketball isn't better,

the basketball in the nba is better?  i disagree.  the skills and abilities are better, but the effort and intensity level of the teams is definately worse (minus, maybe, the playoffs and the occasional marquee matchup).  the teamwork in the nba is worse, even the nba's rules are worse.  nba basketball is very stagnant while college ball has much more movement, however, it is unfortunately slowly evolving into the same stagnant and boring style of play as the nba.

November 27, 2009, 07:37:52 AM
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the basketball in the nba is better?  i disagree.  the skills and abilities are better, but the effort and intensity level of the teams is definately worse (minus, maybe, the playoffs and the occasional marquee matchup).  the teamwork in the nba is worse, even the nba's rules are worse.  nba basketball is very stagnant while college ball has much more movement, however, it is unfortunately slowly evolving into the same stagnant and boring style of play as the nba.

I won't argue the effort and intensity with you b/c I completely agree.  I would say the NBA has better teamwork for the most part.  I know there are a lot of teams that defer to a star player to go one-on-one too much.  Boston did this continuously when Paul Pierce was their only player (awful basketball).  Now they share the ball and move it around.  The thing that bothers me about college is the constant lazy passing and telegraphing of passes.

Please tell me which NBA rules are worse.  The only one I don't care for is the 6 fouls.  That and they are pretty lax on traveling. 

November 27, 2009, 03:25:26 PM
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There are currently 42 players in the NBA shooting 90% or better from the line.  There are 73 NCAA guys doing the same.  You can go 500 players deep (at least, the stats only go that far)  in D1 before you run into a player shooting worse than 70%.  You only have to go 226 players deep in the NBA before you see that.  These are 226 players who were all among the best in their respective conferences, if not all-Americans.  How is it that the cream of the college crop (and international crop for that matter, but the foreign born players tend to shoot free throws fairly well.) suddenly regresses in a simple skill set like that once they no longer have things like school and money concerns to worry about and interfere with their practice time?  Example, Kirk Hinrich shot 77% at uk, he is shooting 68% this year.  Seriously, go through that list, look at the NBA guys shooting in the 50s.  It's fracking pathetic. 

This is an awful argument for you.  If you want to look at the number of kids playing ball in both the NBA and college.  D1 has 10 times the teams that the NBA has.  If you want to bring up %'s of players, then you might have some validity.


I don't think any of the NBA fans have claimed that the NBA is flawless.  There are obvious flaws in the game.  The fact isthough...it is an exciting game played by guys at a high level.  The college game ihas more passion and that makes it more fun, but pay attention to a full NBA game and try to tell me that the basketball isn't better,

That's not really true when you consider that only like the top 0.5% (or something like that) of the NCAA players will ever reach the NBA, let alone ever play any extended, meaningful minutes.    Can't really use a straight percentage comparison because of the low talent ability (in comparison to the league) of the vast, vast majority of college ball.