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October 31, 2006, 10:33:16 AM
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Why do so many people on this site bash Weiser all the time? These B.S. rumors about forcing out Coach Snyder are so full of crap. Snyder was bigger than the program he built, and NO ONE could have forced him out. To blame Weiser is just absurd. Don't forget, Snyder talked about retiring in 03, after winning the conference title. Snyder was ready to retire, so he did. This is not some big conspiracy. And Snyder has never said he would coach again.
 If he un-retires, then so be it. Good luck to him. That in no way means he was forced out. It would only mean he wants to coach again.

October 31, 2006, 10:43:50 AM
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Snyder pretty much did retire in 2003. 

October 31, 2006, 10:47:39 AM
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Why do so many people on this site bash Weiser all the time? These B.S. rumors about forcing out Coach Snyder are so full of crap. Snyder was bigger than the program he built, and NO ONE could have forced him out. To blame Weiser is just absurd. Don't forget, Snyder talked about retiring in 03, after winning the conference title. Snyder was ready to retire, so he did. This is not some big conspiracy. And Snyder has never said he would coach again.
 If he un-retires, then so be it. Good luck to him. That in no way means he was forced out. It would only mean he wants to coach again.
You're so full of crap you don't even know what you're talking about.
I know for a fact that Weiser forced Snyder out and will make a request of Snyder and Weiser to post here to prove it.

LOL @ U


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October 31, 2006, 11:04:52 AM
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Why do so many people on this site bash Weiser all the time? These B.S. rumors about forcing out Coach Snyder are so full of crap. Snyder was bigger than the program he built, and NO ONE could have forced him out. To blame Weiser is just absurd. Don't forget, Snyder talked about retiring in 03, after winning the conference title. Snyder was ready to retire, so he did. This is not some big conspiracy. And Snyder has never said he would coach again.
 If he un-retires, then so be it. Good luck to him. That in no way means he was forced out. It would only mean he wants to coach again.

Yeah, and George Bush was behind the 911 attacks too.

October 31, 2006, 11:29:20 AM
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Why do so many people on this site bash Weiser all the time? These B.S. rumors about forcing out Coach Snyder are so full of crap. Snyder was bigger than the program he built, and NO ONE could have forced him out. To blame Weiser is just absurd. Don't forget, Snyder talked about retiring in 03, after winning the conference title. Snyder was ready to retire, so he did. This is not some big conspiracy. And Snyder has never said he would coach again.
 If he un-retires, then so be it. Good luck to him. That in no way means he was forced out. It would only mean he wants to coach again.

Why didn’t Weiser (or Wefald) offer any solid public support for Snyder during the 2005 season, choosing instead to essentially turn his back on him?  Why would Weiser do that to Snyder?  If nothing else, you should hate Weiser for doing something like that given your apparent love for Snyder.

BTW, I don’t hate Weiser because he wanted Snyder to leave or fire assistants or whatever.  I think he probably did the right thing.  We were headed nowhere.

October 31, 2006, 11:42:48 AM
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*Why didn’t Weiser (or Wefald) offer any solid public support for Snyder during the 2005 season, choosing instead to essentially turn his back on him?  Why would Weiser do that to Snyder?  If nothing else, you should hate Weiser for doing something like that given your apparent love for Snyder.*

I guess I don't remember Weiser turning his back on him. Personally, I don't think Snyder needed any help or public support from Weiser, but that is just my opinion. And sorry, my RESPECT (not love) for Snyder is for everything he has done for this program and school. Of course I'm old (class of 86), so I don't belong to the what have you done for me lately crowd. I like to look more at the big overall picture.

October 31, 2006, 12:50:24 PM
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I love and respect Snyder and think he was affected by the lack of public support.  As evidence that he truly values this sort of thing, look no further than the public support he just offered to Prince.

IMO, it was a terrible situation.  We wanted Snyder to be able to leave 100% on his own terms.  We also, however, want Weiser to be able to do his job to the best of his ability.  Unfortunately, these two things may have been incompatible.

October 31, 2006, 12:54:23 PM
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Or maybe there was no conspiracy at all and Snyder really did just want to retire.


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October 31, 2006, 12:57:01 PM
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Personally, I think the cheerleader was paid off.

October 31, 2006, 12:59:33 PM
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There was tension.  And that sucks.

October 31, 2006, 02:42:13 PM
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Personally, I think the cheerleader was paid off.

if I remember right, Lon drained that pool ..... :fatty:
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October 31, 2006, 02:45:45 PM
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There was tension.  And that sucks.


Yeah there was tension.  How could there not be tension?  Weiser had absolutely no control over the football program at all.  Pretty hard to do your job.  The fact remains that Weiser could only make suggestions.  Snyder could have coached forever if he wanted.... with or without his assistants.

By the way, if you don't think there is tension now, you're crazy.  If you don't think there is tension in any football program, you're crazy.

October 31, 2006, 11:06:10 PM
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There was tension.  And that sucks.


Yeah there was tension. How could there not be tension? Weiser had absolutely no control over the football program at all. Pretty hard to do your job. The fact remains that Weiser could only make suggestions. Snyder could have coached forever if he wanted.... with or without his assistants.

By the way, if you don't think there is tension now, you're crazy. If you don't think there is tension in any football program, you're crazy.

There isn't the kind of tension now, in year one, that there was in Snyder's second consecutive losing season.  And even if there is, who really cares?  Snyder deserved far more latitude than Prince does at this point. 

If there were issues of control between Snyder and Weiser, as you suggest, I think you are underestimating Weiser for one primary reason:  he won.  Snyder is gone.

October 31, 2006, 11:34:21 PM
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you know what would have been very difficult to see?

weiser giving snyder a vote of approval.

some folks thought snyder's comments about prince were a little odd.  weiser going out of his way to voice support for snyder last season would have been sickening.