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November 17, 2009, 03:36:19 PM
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not going to happen.

What the big man has accomplished at ku is beyond amazing considering they went from a joke in 2002 to playing in a BCS bowl in 2007. Remarkable when you think about it really. Overall his record was really crapty but at least they were in a bowl in 2003, 2007, 2008 and maybe this year but I doubt it.


and the kicker....you get to work for a guy who threw the previous coach under the bus and an immature an unprofessional manner.


Good luck with the search. lol
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November 17, 2009, 03:48:54 PM
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LOL... you're literally trembling in fear at the idea of ku hiring a football coach that isn't 400 pounds overweight.  I love it.  Look, I appreciate what Mangino has done for ku's football program.  He won an Orange Bowl and National Coach of the Year in '07.  However, people forget that Mangino went 6-6 the year before and needed that big '07 season to keep his job.  Last year the guy was a 4th down TD against Mizzou away from going 6-6 once again. 

The cold hard truth is that Mangino was the guy to take ku football from 2-10 to 6-6/7-5, but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.  Even looking back on the '06 season, there were some brutal losses to teams like Toledo and Baylor.  The fact is that aside from one great year, Mangino has been an average coach.  With brand new facilities and an athletic department willing to pay a football coach big money, ku's a different program than it was in '02.  I have a lot of confidence that Lew Perkins will make a big-time hire at ku.

November 17, 2009, 03:50:54 PM
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LOL... you're literally trembling in fear at the idea of ku hiring a football coach that isn't 400 pounds overweight.  I love it.  Look, I appreciate what Mangino has done for ku's football program.  He won an Orange Bowl and National Coach of the Year in '07.  However, people forget that Mangino went 6-6 the year before and needed that big '07 season to keep his job.  Last year the guy was a 4th down TD against Mizzou away from going 6-6 once again. 

The cold hard truth is that Mangino was the guy to take ku football from 2-10 to 6-6/7-5, but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.  Even looking back on the '06 season, there were some brutal losses to teams like Toledo and Baylor.  The fact is that aside from one great year, Mangino has been an average coach.  With brand new facilities and an athletic department willing to pay a football coach big money, ku's a different program than it was in '02.  I have a lot of confidence that Lew Perkins will make a big-time hire at ku.


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November 17, 2009, 03:54:17 PM
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LOL... you're literally trembling in fear at the idea of ku hiring a football coach that isn't 400 pounds overweight.  I love it.  Look, I appreciate what Mangino has done for ku's football program.  He won an Orange Bowl and National Coach of the Year in '07.  However, people forget that Mangino went 6-6 the year before and needed that big '07 season to keep his job.  Last year the guy was a 4th down TD against Mizzou away from going 6-6 once again. 

The cold hard truth is that Mangino was the guy to take ku football from 2-10 to 6-6/7-5, but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.  Even looking back on the '06 season, there were some brutal losses to teams like Toledo and Baylor.  The fact is that aside from one great year, Mangino has been an average coach.  With brand new facilities and an athletic department willing to pay a football coach big money, ku's a different program than it was in '02.  I have a lot of confidence that Lew Perkins will make a big-time hire at ku.

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November 17, 2009, 03:55:23 PM
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November 17, 2009, 04:07:02 PM
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LOL... you're literally trembling in fear at the idea of ku hiring a football coach that isn't 400 pounds overweight.  I love it.  Look, I appreciate what Mangino has done for ku's football program.  He won an Orange Bowl and National Coach of the Year in '07.  However, people forget that Mangino went 6-6 the year before and needed that big '07 season to keep his job.  Last year the guy was a 4th down TD against Mizzou away from going 6-6 once again. 

The cold hard truth is that Mangino was the guy to take ku football from 2-10 to 6-6/7-5, but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.  Even looking back on the '06 season, there were some brutal losses to teams like Toledo and Baylor.  The fact is that aside from one great year, Mangino has been an average coach.  With brand new facilities and an athletic department willing to pay a football coach big money, ku's a different program than it was in '02.  I have a lot of confidence that Lew Perkins will make a big-time hire at ku.

This is probably a first but I agree with BMW.  They have a chance to hire a good coach and get some things done.  Perkins is a good AD they're improving their facilities and the job is much more attractive now then it has ever been.   Mangino getting fired from ku is not a good thing at all for KSU.  This scandal type of deal is the best thing that could happen to ku because it allows them to fire him right now rather then having to give him another lame duck year in which they'd likely finish last again.   

I suppose they could screw up the hire but if I were a betting man I would bet they'll get a better coach then Mangino.  Of course I've always been under the opinion that Mangino wasn't much of a coach to begin with.   I was hoping he would get some kind of a slap on the wrist and keep his job but the more I'm hearing it's sounding like that just isn't going to happen. 

November 17, 2009, 04:09:48 PM
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LOL... you're literally trembling in fear at the idea of ku hiring a football coach that isn't 400 pounds overweight.  I love it.  Look, I appreciate what Mangino has done for ku's football program.  He won an Orange Bowl and National Coach of the Year in '07.  However, people forget that Mangino went 6-6 the year before and needed that big '07 season to keep his job.  Last year the guy was a 4th down TD against Mizzou away from going 6-6 once again. 

The cold hard truth is that Mangino was the guy to take ku football from 2-10 to 6-6/7-5, but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.  Even looking back on the '06 season, there were some brutal losses to teams like Toledo and Baylor.  The fact is that aside from one great year, Mangino has been an average coach.  With brand new facilities and an athletic department willing to pay a football coach big money, ku's a different program than it was in '02.  I have a lot of confidence that Lew Perkins will make a big-time hire at ku.

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November 17, 2009, 04:12:39 PM
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Well, they could hire the OB mascot. A lil smaller, but at least he has a smile on his face.

November 17, 2009, 04:14:16 PM
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Mark Mangino will be the first coach in about 65 years to carry his boxes out of the ku football coaches office with a winning record.


November 17, 2009, 04:15:39 PM
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November 17, 2009, 04:17:20 PM
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lol figures bmw would come back today, ku might do better but history would say it is not likley. Good luck.

November 17, 2009, 04:24:09 PM
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November 17, 2009, 04:44:53 PM
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November 17, 2009, 04:50:40 PM
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not going to happen.

What the big man has accomplished at ku is beyond amazing considering they went from a joke in 2002 to playing in a BCS bowl in 2007. Remarkable when you think about it really. Overall his record was really crapty but at least they were in a bowl in 2003, 2007, 2008 and maybe this year but I doubt it.


and the kicker....you get to work for a guy who threw the previous coach under the bus and an immature an unprofessional manner.


Good luck with the search. lol

Weren't you on the whole 'They aren't even improving under Mangino!' bandwagon for such a long time?

Don't worry, I'll trust in Sweet Lew to find us the diamond in the rough. He's set it up nicely to lure someone here and shown he's dedicated to football.
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November 17, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
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LOL... you're literally trembling in fear at the idea of ku hiring a football coach that isn't 400 pounds overweight.  I love it.  Look, I appreciate what Mangino has done for ku's football program.  He won an Orange Bowl and National Coach of the Year in '07.  However, people forget that Mangino went 6-6 the year before and needed that big '07 season to keep his job.  Last year the guy was a 4th down TD against Mizzou away from going 6-6 once again. 

The cold hard truth is that Mangino was the guy to take ku football from 2-10 to 6-6/7-5, but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.  Even looking back on the '06 season, there were some brutal losses to teams like Toledo and Baylor.  The fact is that aside from one great year, Mangino has been an average coach.  With brand new facilities and an athletic department willing to pay a football coach big money, ku's a different program than it was in '02.  I have a lot of confidence that Lew Perkins will make a big-time hire at ku.

Maybe now you'll learn to listen to us for a change.

November 17, 2009, 05:59:19 PM
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in the span of about 6 months...BMW has gone from completely in Mangino's camp to unloading on the guy as someone who will never get it done. Just classic.


Do you already forget your 8 and 9 win prediction before this season?

how you said the defense would improve form last year because you LOST good players?

You are so defeated...and your new sig pic is setting you up for another.

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November 17, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
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There is still no denying that he had the best season in the history of Kansas football.  Again, that's the best season ever, not one of the best.  Best ever.  And he's fired 2 seasons later.

November 17, 2009, 06:19:07 PM
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in the span of about 6 months...BMW has gone from completely in Mangino's camp to unloading on the guy as someone who will never get it done. Just classic.


Do you already forget your 8 and 9 win prediction before this season?

how you said the defense would improve form last year because you LOST good players?

You are so defeated...and your new sig pic is setting you up for another.

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Well, first of all, 8-9 wins was completely within range this season.  ku just needed to win the games it was supposed to win.  As far as the defense, they have improved.  They went from 87th in total defense last year to 52nd this season.  The defense has actually been playing pretty well over the past few weeks.  It's the offense that's been losing games with costly turnovers and an inability to get into a rhythm. 

As for me, I'm not defeated at all.  I'm excited for a coaching change.  ku has one of the best athletic directors (if not the best) in the country.  Lew Perkins has wanted to make this hire for years.  I have all the confidence in the world that he'll make a big-time hire.

November 17, 2009, 06:58:55 PM
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in the span of about 6 months...BMW has gone from completely in Mangino's camp to unloading on the guy as someone who will never get it done. Just classic.


Do you already forget your 8 and 9 win prediction before this season?

how you said the defense would improve form last year because you LOST good players?

You are so defeated...and your new sig pic is setting you up for another.

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Well, first of all, 8-9 wins was completely within range this season.  ku just needed to win the games it was supposed to win.  As far as the defense, they have improved.  They went from 87th in total defense last year to 52nd this season.  The defense has actually been playing pretty well over the past few weeks.  It's the offense that's been losing games with costly turnovers and an inability to get into a rhythm. 

As for me, I'm not defeated at all.  I'm excited for a coaching change.  ku has one of the best athletic directors (if not the best) in the country.  Lew Perkins has wanted to make this hire for years.  I have all the confidence in the world that he'll make a big-time hire.

That is, at least until his organized crime ties are finally reported on.

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November 17, 2009, 07:11:48 PM
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but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.

And who do you think is going to be able to get this done for ku football? :ugh:
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November 17, 2009, 07:18:36 PM
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but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.

And who do you think is going to be able to do this for ku football? :ugh:




This is rich coming from a fan of the first program in D-1 to reach 500 losses.  If K-State can do it, anyone can.  The #1 coach on my wish list is Kevin Sumlin, though. 

November 17, 2009, 07:49:18 PM
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This is so annoying.  Every year we hear about what a great situation ku is in.  And what do they have to show for it?  The 2007 season.  You'd think they could try and keep their mouths shut until they actually have consistent success...if it ever happens.

November 17, 2009, 07:51:37 PM
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    Hey, basketball!!!
but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.

And who do you think is going to be able to do this for ku football? :ugh:




This is rich coming from a fan of the first program in D-1 to reach 500 losses.  If K-State can do it, anyone can.  The #1 coach on my wish list is Kevin Sumlin, though.  

Sorry, there is only one Bill Snyder, and he is not cloneable.....

and he sure as hell isn't going to ku anytime soon. :lol:
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November 17, 2009, 08:02:01 PM
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but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.

And who do you think is going to be able to do this for ku football? :ugh:




This is rich coming from a fan of the first program in D-1 to reach 500 losses.  If K-State can do it, anyone can.  The #1 coach on my wish list is Kevin Sumlin, though. 

Not so fast. You have to realize that to resurrect a football program, everything else must take a back seat for a period of years. This includes basketball. Are you prepared to have an average, to below average, basketball team? I'd think that none of the squawklander's would.

December 03, 2009, 01:22:24 PM
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December 03, 2009, 01:37:58 PM
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but he's never going to consistently go 8-4/9-3.

And who do you think is going to be able to do this for ku football? :ugh:


This is rich coming from a fan of the first program in D-1 to reach 500 losses.  If K-State can do it, anyone can.  The #1 coach on my wish list is Kevin Sumlin, though. 

How can Sumlin be your top choice? With all the other names being thrown around, a guy with 2 years as an HC and only one good year can't be your top choice? Also, he seems like a guy with big aspirations. I would imagine that he's trying to get a sweet gig in the SEC or Big East at some point. A stop at ku would probably prolong his journey to one of those types of jobs.

December 03, 2009, 01:41:42 PM
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December 03, 2009, 01:55:01 PM
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Honest question for the j-'awks:
What gives you so much confidence Lew will make a good hire.  Sure he has shown himself to be a good button-man and an excellent negotiator, but what is his hiring record to-date? 
Who has he obtained that shows he can find a "diamond in the rough" as you say?

December 03, 2009, 02:25:15 PM
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December 03, 2009, 02:34:01 PM
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ku fans who think that running off Mangino 2 short years after going 12-1 with a BCS victory is somehow good for them.  I am sure that every good coach in the world is going to be salivating to walk into that scenario, knowing how Mangino was treated.

I also LOVE how ku fan thinks that ku is a better job than Stanford (and they think we are hicks, LOL).  Further, why would Harbaugh leave Stanford when Michigan is probably going to open up next year and they are definately going to go with a "Michigan Man", and Les Miles has all but screwed his opportunity up.  Harbaugh could probably have the Michigan job today if he wanted it.  Oh, that's right, ku is a better job than BOTH Stanford and Michigan, and his wife is from KC. :thumbsup: