Kevin Sumlin

[catzacker]

mike leach should consider moving to the North.  He'd go to the Big 12CG like every year. 

[Chingon]

Bill Young returns?

[Del Tremens]

I know most of you will deny it, but losing to Kansas hurts you more than losing to anyone else in the country.  I won't argue that beating Kansas is as important to you guys as beating Texas/Oklahoma, but it's up there.  You're in denial if you can't admit that you're a little nervous about the way that the rivalry has evolved.  Kansas is becoming a lot like Bill Snyder's program at Kansas State.  

I will admit that when ku fan admits that losing to KSU in Basketball is important. Oh, comparing ku/Mangina to what Bill Snyder did is ridiculous. If you compare what Mangina has done this year to when Marshall was undefeated a while back I will buy that. Again refer to above as to where the ku win stands.

I think that most Kansas fans would admit that any rivalry game is important.  However, in basketball, individual games aren't as important as they are in football, so it's hard to really compare.  Kansas also plays its rivals (K-State and Mizzou) twice in conference play, so there's always the chance of getting redemption in the same season.  

On the Synder/Mangino comparison, you've got to take a look at what both coaches had done at this point in their careers.  Here are some interesting facts (found this on phog):

Both of their first seasons were awful, Snyder 1-10, Mangino 2-10, mostly because of inheriting a bad team. Both coaches’ teams struggled on the road. Through the first five and a half years of Snyder’s career, Kansas State was 5-21 away from Manhattan. Through five and a half years, Kansas is 6-21 under Mangino away from Lawrence.

The formula Bill Snyder used for making Kansas State a national power is also similar to what Mangino did to gain national recognition. Both coaches have added wins to the schedule by playing soft opponents during the nonconference part of the season. Through five and a half seasons, Snyder’s nonconference record was 18-6. Mangino, through the first five and a half season’s of his career, has gone 18-6 in nonconference play.

For a team near the cellar of college football, recruiting can be tricky, and coaches have to find players that marquis schools overlook. Players that come from a junior college or players that are undersized for their position are what Snyder capitalized on and what Mangino is also doing.

On Oct. 22, 1994, the Kansas State Wildcats were 4-2 (1-2 Big 8 ) under Bill Snyder and went on to finish the season 9-3 (5-2 Big 8 ). They finished the season ranked No. 19 in the AP poll, and No. 16 in the CNN/USA Today Coaches’ Poll. They were nearly a permanent fixture in the rankings for the next ten years.

Today, Oct. 22, 2007, Kansas is ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, No. 10 in the USA Today Coaches Poll and No. 9 in the BCS poll. Kansas is undefeated at 7-0 under Mark Mangino. Though Bill Snyder was well on his way in establishing Kansas State as a national power five years into his coaching career, it was not until 1998 when Kansas State went 7-0.

Mark Mangino was an assistant coach at Kansas State from 1991-1998 and was around to witness Bill Snyder build a football team from a laughing stock to a national power. Through five and a half years of coaching, both coaches careers look similar. It was clear that Mangino learned a thing or two under Bill Snyder. It will not be surprising to see Kansas football enjoy success similar to that which Snyder brought to Kansas State.

[BMWJhawk]

if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.

    

[sonofdaxjones]

So Sumlin has already been tossed under the Bus??

[kougar24]

Did this go completely unnoticed or something?

Not going to happen, and yes, I've asked about this. Coogs are loaded, and Keenum has another year. If they go undefeated or have one less next year, he'll have his choice of jobs.

[Andy]

LOL @ early short list

ku fans should take their first 5 targets, write them down...crumple up the paper and start with a new list not using those 5.

prob more like top 10.

[BMWJhawk]

So Sumlin has already been tossed under the Bus??

if not Sumlin, who's next?

p.s. stay the hell away from Venzy.

    

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.

[BMWJhawk]

LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.

Bullsh*t, 'Pad.  You know I've been highly critical of Mangino in the past.  I've never been a big fan of his to be honest.

[Mizzou Mafia]

Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?

Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.

Well, as long as you're AUTHORITATIVE ....

[sonofdaxjones]

LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.

Bullsh*t, 'Pad.  You know I've been highly critical of Mangino in the past.  I've never been a big fan of his to be honest.

You really don't want me to do a dumpster dive do you Ben . . . good gawd, that is just so sad . . . so very, very sad.

[The42Yardstick]

Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?

Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.

Well, as long as you're AUTHORITATIVE ....

The42Yardstick is to be the next HC of the Kansas football dynasty. I will bury you motherf*ckers so that you will never see the sun again. I am my own authority.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLPwkOlwO0

[BMWJhawk]

LOL at Ben . . . now acting all big and bold after 2 years of doing nothing but heap praise on Mangino and telling us how Mangino was going to bury K-State . . . love ya Ben.

Bullsh*t, 'Pad.  You know I've been highly critical of Mangino in the past.  I've never been a big fan of his to be honest.

You really don't want me to do a dumpster dive do you Ben . . . good gawd, that is just so sad . . . so very, very sad.

Did you forget about the sh*t storm I riled up on phog.net last year after the losses to Texas Tech and Nebraska?  I've never been a big Mangino fan.  Not sure why that bothers you so much.

[CatsNShocks]

Someone, not partaking in hallucinogens, on the other board mentioned the early short list as Skip Holtz and Randy Edsell.  Holtz was the head coach at UCONN prior to Edsell.

Either would be logical, safe and very average hires.  

LOL.  I can literally smell the fear. 

You go from "History Awaits" to this?
 

[Mizzou Mafia]

Would be HUGE for ku.

BTW, you are of the opinion that Mangino is gone, correct?

Yep.  It looks like it's all but official at this point.

Well, as long as you're AUTHORITATIVE ....

The42Yardstick is to be the next HC of the Kansas football dynasty. I will bury you motherf*ckers so that you will never see the sun again. I am my own authority.

Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDLPwkOlwO0

LOL. Thanks for the link. I've never seen this.
 

[kst8cat]

ku should piss off all the Colorado fans and hire Dave Logan.  Would be very funny from two angles.

[Bullfn33]

Fran

[The Whale]

As long as you're dreaming big, how about Charlie Weis?  He's about to get fired by ND...



As an added bonus, we'd get to keep the fat jokes.

[BMWJhawk]

As long as you're dreaming big, how about Charlie Weis?  He's about to get fired by ND...



As an added bonus, we'd get to keep the fat jokes.

I'd rather have Mangino than Weis.

[sonofdaxjones]

ku should piss off all the Colorado fans and hire Dave Logan.  Would be very funny from two angles.

That's very funny . . . netbuffs has been crying for Logan for like a decade now. 

[fatty fat fat]

mike leach should consider moving to the North.  He'd go to the Big 12CG like every year. 

where he would lose in the the title game very year.

[Pett]

Ben, keep dreaming bud, good football coaches don't want to end up in Lawrence and ALWAYS be second to the basketball team...

Sorry, but try again. Like how about the Temple coach or something?

To be honest, if I were you, I would try to hold on to Mangino until he dies because that's the best football coach that you will ever sniff (pun intended).

[Oklahoma_Cat]

LOL @ ku fans.  Nationwide, KSU is more well-known as the "football school" in the state, and we've all seen how difficult it is to get anyone to even look at us without laughing their asses off. 

ku isn't going to get a big up-and-coming name.  Their either going to keep someone from the current staff, get an unknown assistant from a mid-major, or a coach past his prime.  Bet on it.

[BMWJhawk]

You guys remind me of the ku fans who were in denial about K-State getting a coach like Bob Huggins.

[PowercatPat]

You guys remind me of the ku fans who were in denial about K-State getting a coach like Bob Huggins.

Bob Huggins was a legit coach. Turner Gill hasn't really done anything besides win a MAC championship for a school nobody cares about. BTW, Buffalo is 3-7 and 1-5 in the MAC this season.

 

[PowercatPat]

I know most of you will deny it, but losing to Kansas hurts you more than losing to anyone else in the country.  I won't argue that beating Kansas is as important to you guys as beating Texas/Oklahoma, but it's up there.  You're in denial if you can't admit that you're a little nervous about the way that the rivalry has evolved.  Kansas is becoming a lot like Bill Snyder's program at Kansas State.  

I will admit that when ku fan admits that losing to KSU in Basketball is important. Oh, comparing ku/Mangina to what Bill Snyder did is ridiculous. If you compare what Mangina has done this year to when Marshall was undefeated a while back I will buy that. Again refer to above as to where the ku win stands.

I think that most Kansas fans would admit that any rivalry game is important.  However, in basketball, individual games aren't as important as they are in football, so it's hard to really compare.  Kansas also plays its rivals (K-State and Mizzou) twice in conference play, so there's always the chance of getting redemption in the same season.  

On the Synder/Mangino comparison, you've got to take a look at what both coaches had done at this point in their careers.  Here are some interesting facts (found this on phog):

Both of their first seasons were awful, Snyder 1-10, Mangino 2-10, mostly because of inheriting a bad team. Both coaches’ teams struggled on the road. Through the first five and a half years of Snyder’s career, Kansas State was 5-21 away from Manhattan. Through five and a half years, Kansas is 6-21 under Mangino away from Lawrence.

The formula Bill Snyder used for making Kansas State a national power is also similar to what Mangino did to gain national recognition. Both coaches have added wins to the schedule by playing soft opponents during the nonconference part of the season. Through five and a half seasons, Snyder’s nonconference record was 18-6. Mangino, through the first five and a half season’s of his career, has gone 18-6 in nonconference play.

For a team near the cellar of college football, recruiting can be tricky, and coaches have to find players that marquis schools overlook. Players that come from a junior college or players that are undersized for their position are what Snyder capitalized on and what Mangino is also doing.

On Oct. 22, 1994, the Kansas State Wildcats were 4-2 (1-2 Big 8 ) under Bill Snyder and went on to finish the season 9-3 (5-2 Big 8 ). They finished the season ranked No. 19 in the AP poll, and No. 16 in the CNN/USA Today Coaches’ Poll. They were nearly a permanent fixture in the rankings for the next ten years.

Today, Oct. 22, 2007, Kansas is ranked No. 12 in the AP poll, No. 10 in the USA Today Coaches Poll and No. 9 in the BCS poll. Kansas is undefeated at 7-0 under Mark Mangino. Though Bill Snyder was well on his way in establishing Kansas State as a national power five years into his coaching career, it was not until 1998 when Kansas State went 7-0.

Mark Mangino was an assistant coach at Kansas State from 1991-1998 and was around to witness Bill Snyder build a football team from a laughing stock to a national power. Through five and a half years of coaching, both coaches careers look similar. It was clear that Mangino learned a thing or two under Bill Snyder. It will not be surprising to see Kansas football enjoy success similar to that which Snyder brought to Kansas State.

LMFAO. BMW's post is absolutely hilarious.


    

[BMWJhawk]

You guys remind me of the ku fans who were in denial about K-State getting a coach like Bob Huggins.

Bob Huggins was a legit coach. Turner Gill hasn't really done anything besides win a MAC championship for a school nobody cares about. BTW, Buffalo is 3-7 and 1-5 in the MAC this season.

 

You're preaching to the choir.  Kevin Sumlin is #1 on my wish list.  See sig.

[wildcat79]

Who can eat the most. I think they should have tryouts. What we have here are big shoes to fill and I mean big!