mizzou should be embarrassed they didnt win the north

[Andy]

obvious they have the best overall talent.  how do u lose at home to baylor? shoulda beat nebra. too. pinkle can recruit (not hard to recruit mizzou though, realistically) but he will always hold that talent back from ever accomplishing anything significant in college. 

[nicname]

Dumb post.  Denying GP's coaching ability has been out of style for a while now.  There is a reson he has the best program in the north right now.

[Legore]

MU's talent is getting overstated today.  Nobody in the North is really all that talented.  Just like everyone else MU has some good players and they have some pretty big weaknesses.  Matchup wise it kind of played into their hands.  Their offensive strengths were able to take advantage of our defensive weaknesses.  They had weaknesses on defense as well but our offensive strenghts didn't match up with their defensive weaknesses.

Honestly though it wouldn't surprise me much at all if ku beats Missouri in Arrowhead again this year.  There just isn't a lot of difference between these teams and ku will match up with them pretty well. 

[The Kaiser]

is hilarious.  Missouri has been a 5-3, 4-4 conference team for a long time, and that is what Gary Pinkell has achieved save ONE freakin season.  Difference is that at one time 5-3 finished third in the north and got Larry Smith fired, it didn't win the division and make people elevate you to something you aren't.  Gary Pinkell is good (or better yet perceived as good) because this division completely sucks balls, Missouri has simply maintained their level of consistent suckitude.

[nicname]

JFC, Kaiser that is a cop-out.  The same type of excuse people from ku etc. were making should we win the north.  Pinkle has been a solid coach for a while now, and their team is talented but young.  Give them a couple years and they will be top 10-15 team again.

[MOKSUAZ]

JFC, Kaiser that is a cop-out.  The same type of excuse people from ku etc. were making should we win the north.  Pinkle has been a solid coach for a while now, and their team is talented but young.  Give them a couple years and they will be top 10-15 team again.

a couple of years?  the talent they have is pretty damn good if you look at the ratings of their recruits compared to other north teams over the last 2-3 years.  a highly touted sophomore QB, a freakishly athletic core of WRs, 2 pretty damn good RBs, a decent defense, etc...  Pinkle being a solid coach has nothing to do with it.  losing his top two coordinators was a huge blow to that program IMO (see ku's defense now vs. the bill young years).

[nicname]

It is young talent, for the most part.  They lost a QB, WR, TE all to the draft.  A drop off in performance is to be expected.  Plus they started out the conference schedule with a real tough slate.  Losing coordinators does hurt but so does losing top talent, even if you replace them with more good recruits.  This isn't bball where top 100 players just come in and dominate as freshmen. 

[Andy]

Dumb post.  Denying GP's coaching ability has been out of style for a while now.  There is a reson he has the best program in the north right now.

pinkle can recruit, but he still loses too many games he shouldn't and doesnt beat any of the good south teams basically ever.

[Andy]

It is young talent, for the most part.  They lost a QB, WR, TE all to the draft.  A drop off in performance is to be expected.  Plus they started out the conference schedule with a real tough slate.  Losing coordinators does hurt but so does losing top talent, even if you replace them with more good recruits.  This isn't bball where top 100 players just come in and dominate as freshmen. 

outside of alexander, their offensive and defensive lines impressed me the most.  i stand by my original statement, this team should have beaten baylor and found a way to hold on against nebraska at home. 

[Bookcat]

Gabbert rolled his ankle bad vs. NU. Remember Suh wrenching it (not on purpose ahem)...That screwed that game up big time.

Baylor is the biggest head scratcher...but they still put up big numbers in a losing battle.

With Gabbert healthy...I'm expecting them to dominate the crap out of ku in Arrowhead.

[ksu_FAN]

Gabbert rolled his ankle bad vs. NU. Remember Suh wrenching it (not on purpose ahem)...That screwed that game up big time.

Baylor is the biggest head scratcher...but they still put up big numbers in a losing battle.

With Gabbert healthy...I'm expecting them to dominate the crap out of ku in Arrowhead.

No doubt they should... but this is the Big 12 North.  ku probably wins by 17 or something.  Of course, this means we should win in Lincoln as well.  This league has been far from "predictable" this year.