so OB is +1 on Prince in the shlttiest division in D1 football

[steve dave]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

[cireksu]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

much worse

[fatty fat fat]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

[nicname]

ku = worse
MU = about right
NU = about right (off. =worse def. = better)
CU= about right, figured they would suck
ISU = Better
KSU = Better

Like I said only ku is worse.

[steve dave]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

 

[michigancat]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

[steve dave]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

That is so k-statish

[sonofdaxjones]

Oh geez cire . . . come on.

Hey, lets look at the Big 12 CCG winners from the last 5 years . . . ummm, none.

2004 OU 42 CU 3
2005 TX 70 CU 3
2006 OU 21 NU 7
2007 OU 38 MU 17
2008 OU 62 MU 21

Seriously guys . . . the North is "much worse" . . . seriously??  There's only been 1 year where the North was anywhere close to "good" and the Champion lost by 3 TD's in the CCG, and the 2 best teams avoided the entirety of the Big 12 South Powers, except MU vs OU and MU got worked like a bitch in both games against them.

[fatty fat fat]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

there is a huge, HUGE difference between 4-3 and 2-6.

[nicname]

Explain how NU, MU, CU, ISU, or KSU is worse than expected.  MU may be worse than they were last year but they are still decent and as good as I thought they would be.  

[Quagmire]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

That is so k-statish

Since you using the that is so K-Statish line in ever post Steve Dave.

Here's for you again.



Please use it.

[michigancat]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

there is a huge, HUGE difference between 4-3 and 2-6.

yeah, 2 games.  thank god and Krause that ISU was neutral.

[fatty fat fat]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

there is a huge, HUGE difference between 4-3 and 2-6.

yeah, 2 games.  thank god and Krause that ISU was neutral.

you can spin it however you'd like, but the record is the bottom-line.

"2 games" was the difference between 4th and 9th in big 12 hoops last year.

[michigancat]

The thing that everyone is ignoring is that the division is much worse than expected. 

it's the same it's been for six years now.

don't pretend to be ignorant to this.  ku, MU, NU & CU are worse than you expected them to be this season.

good god. that's such a stupid as sh*t argument.

we are 4-3 in the big 12. we were 2-6 last year. we are playing the same 8 opponents.

end of story.

pretty sure you're using prince as your measuring stick there, trips.

there is a huge, HUGE difference between 4-3 and 2-6.

yeah, 2 games.  thank god and Krause that ISU was neutral.

you can spin it however you'd like, but the record is the bottom-line.

"2 games" was the difference between 4th and 9th in big 12 hoops last year.

free pass for ULL?  Or is that not part of the bottom line?

[fatty fat fat]

don't care about OOC play. pretty sure i've been consistent here.

besides

thank god and Krause that ISU was neutral.

ULL WAS ON THE ROAD!!!

[michigancat]

don't care about OOC play. pretty sure i've been consistent here.

besides

thank god and Krause that ISU was neutral.

ULL WAS ON THE ROAD!!!

OK, just making sure your talking points were in order.  One way of looking at it, is we were one game a way from a bowl last year, and this year we're one game away from a bowl with a game to play.

[fatty fat fat]

yes, we were 2-5 entering the final game of 2008, and 4-3 entering the final game of 2009.

last season also had zero entertainment. this season has had plenty.

[michigancat]

last season also had zero entertainment. this season has had plenty.

that's a really good point.  TV like every game, too.  (although bums didn't get the vs. stream up today). 

[kstatefreak42]

Look, I'm not here claiming this season is some kind of banner year.  Just that they met or slightly exceeded expectations.  Regardless of who the coach is.  This is a team that lost a 1st round draft pick and replaced him with Carson Coffman and a dude who coudlnt start at USf.  Add in a defense that was close to dead last in nearly every category last year.  What did you expect. 

Many thought we would be lucky to win 4 games.  Looking back the LALA game is the one that hurts, could of sent us to a bowl, earned us another month of practice etc.  Beating ku is nice but should be an afterthought.  I agree Snyder didn't put together his best gameplan offensively, which was paramount against a team that is a poor matchup for us.  Not a reason to meltdown.

correction, grant gregory is the one who culdnt start at USF.