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October 27, 2006, 10:48:28 AM
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Dude, are you serious? The man contradicts himself. That's my issue. I couldn't care less who the freakin' starting quarterback is. Not one bit. My issue is when he says one thing and does something totally different. To me, that's being dishonest, and to me, that's a lack of respect from someone I have to have a working, professional relationship with. He could have avoided all of this, as someone pointed out earlier, by simply saying the quarterback position is different. But he didn't.

I asked him a question. He walked away. Even a simple 'no comment' would have sufficed. Instead, he walked away. That's ridiculous.

Tell the truth Jeff.  He couldn't really have avoided all of this.  If it wasn't this, it would be something else.  You're so full of it.  You're loving every minute of this.  You and fatty are two of a kind.  Fatty lives to get people's goat and so do you.  Just admit it.  You spout this .... professionl relationship.... blah blah blah.  You are a Whitlock in the making.  Not such a bad thing, really.  I like Jason's work.  I like fatty's work too, but don't try to feed us this "holier than thou" crap.

You went into that press conference with one goal.  "I'm going to make him admit to something he doesn't want to admit to.  If not, I'm going to rip him for it.  Either way, I get a good story.  Damn I'm good... heh... heh... heh."

Give me a break.  You could care less that Ron is a hypocrit, in fact you're happy that he is.  It gives you something to write about.

October 27, 2006, 10:49:34 AM
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October 27, 2006, 10:50:45 AM
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October 27, 2006, 11:05:40 AM
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You hear that JMart?... thats Ksu fans telling you not to expose anything hypocritical about their head coach and his 'coachspeak'. If you 'think' about what Prince is saying than you're doing too much. It doesn't matter that what he says doesn't make sense. If you expose Prince's hypocricy than there can be no doubt... you must have some sort of agenda against Ksu. Its so obvious.

Scuba, you sound like a jackass. If a man is lying and everyone in the room knows it, don't be surprised if one of them calls him out on it. It was the person's fault for lying in the first place.
I'm telling you, this is not ANYTHING like the team from the beginning of conference play. You will see no more blowouts like what happened in OOC.  If we lose, it will not because these kids gave up, and it will be at the buzzer. -Rodless, before 97-70

October 27, 2006, 11:10:34 AM
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Actually, I thought that article was kind of cool. :beerchug:

Prince got owned.

October 27, 2006, 11:14:02 AM
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OUCH! Sorry J-Mart.  :frown:
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 27, 2006, 11:15:18 AM
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Scuba, I can't get anything past you, can I?

But how am I full of it? I'm not leading a witch hunt. What I do isn't going to affect Ron Prince's job status. My job is to cover the football program. If he's inconsistent with something as minor as this, what's to stop him from being inconsistent with something far bigger down the road?

Really, I wanted to hear his explanation for that. I didn't have a goal. It struck me after the 10th time he used the word "competition."


October 27, 2006, 11:56:17 AM
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October 27, 2006, 12:03:44 PM
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Bold and daring post, Scuba.

But how did J-Mart rip Prince?

October 27, 2006, 12:18:14 PM
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But how did J-Mart rip Prince?

He exposed Prince's hipocrisy.  Isn't that Lutz's job?

Also, I am just curious.  Does the Eagle encourage you and Jeffrey to post here?  In the last year it seems like I've seen quite a few posts from media members including you guys, Kietzman, and Whitlock to name a few and that rarely, if ever, happened in the past.  I am glad to see it and I wondered if it was just a few people who decided they wanted to do it or if the media companies' managements are encouraging it because it increases interest in their products?

How long will it be before we see coaches posting on sites like this?

October 27, 2006, 12:19:49 PM
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I don't think he ripped ron prince but I think that he asked a question that no coach in his right mind would answer and to me it looked like a reporter trying to lay a land mine for a coach to give a good sound byte.  And Prince didn't take the bait.

Goldy please enlighten us as to how prince is a hypocryte???  How much depth chart shuffling has gone on this year?

Dline:  Yes
LB's:   Yes
Sec:   Yes


Offense

QB:  Yes
RB:  Yes
TE:  Yes
WR:  YEs
Oline:  Yes.

So I really am not seeing this hypocracy.  We've seen some guys buried and some emerge out of nowhere.  The competition at qb is over, Dylan is not getting better.  IF he was then I think things might be tighter.  But Ron Prince said going into fall camp that he was going to pick the qb that gave him the best chance of winning and stick with it.  Don't you guys remember this summer how a starter was not named until the week of Ill St?  People thought Prince was waffling.

October 27, 2006, 12:21:04 PM
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But how did J-Mart rip Prince?

He exposed Prince's hipocrisy.  Isn't that Lutz's job?

Also, I am just curious.  Does the Eagle encourage you and Jeffrey to post here?  In the last year it seems like I've seen quite a few posts from media members including you guys, Kietzman, and Whitlock to name a few and that rarely, if ever, happened in the past.  I am glad to see it and I wondered if it was just a few people who decided they wanted to do it or if the media companies' managements are encouraging it because it increases interest in their products?

How long will it be before we see coaches posting on sites like this?
Maybe it didn't happen in the past because there weren't internet BBS in the past? Or maybe it didn't happen much in the past because internet BBS weren't as popular as they are today? 

I know for a fact that Coach Prince reads AND posts on this very message board quite frequently.


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

New warning: Don't get in a fight with someone who doesn't even need to bother to buy ink.

October 27, 2006, 12:22:57 PM
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October 27, 2006, 12:25:05 PM
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Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

New warning: Don't get in a fight with someone who doesn't even need to bother to buy ink.

October 27, 2006, 12:28:13 PM
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So I really am not seeing this hypocracy.  We've seen some guys buried and some emerge out of nowhere.  The competition at qb is over, Dylan is not getting better.  IF he was then I think things might be tighter.  But Ron Prince said going into fall camp that he was going to pick the qb that gave him the best chance of winning and stick with it.  Don't you guys remember this summer how a starter was not named until the week of Ill St?  People thought Prince was waffling.

So, wait. The answer is obvious and can be well stated into a comment if you're asked about it directly? Interesting.



October 27, 2006, 12:28:39 PM
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 "know for a fact that Coach Prince reads AND posts on this very message board quite frequently."

Who do YOU think ratted out Dax Rusty?

October 27, 2006, 12:30:14 PM
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I know for a fact that Coach Prince reads AND posts on this very message board quite frequently.

If I were a coach, I would read it.  How could you not be curious what people are saying about you?  I would probably post some as well, but I wouldn't want anyone to know who I was and I would only post about X and O's type stuff.  No internet pissing matches for sure.

October 27, 2006, 12:30:39 PM
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No I think that this season has made people crazy.  I think a lot of people are acting like this has been some sort of disastrous season with a bumbling head coach at the reigns and I just don't see it that way.  I'm trying to understand.

LW, the fact that in my eye, this is so completely apparent that I question the motives of those that choose to make it an issue.

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jmart I know that it wasn't your intention to lay a mine with that question, but that is how it came across when I first read it.
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October 27, 2006, 12:37:56 PM
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But how did J-Mart rip Prince?

Also, I am just curious.  Does the Eagle encourage you and Jeffrey to post here?  In the last year it seems like I've seen quite a few posts from media members including you guys, Kietzman, and Whitlock to name a few and that rarely, if ever, happened in the past.  I am glad to see it and I wondered if it was just a few people who decided they wanted to do it or if the media companies' managements are encouraging it because it increases interest in their products?

How long will it be before we see coaches posting on sites like this?

If coaches and players start posting, we'll be looking for new jobs.

It's not the company's idea. Honestly, this is a fun board. I had a blast reading the ksufans' chat room over J-Mart's shoulder at the MU game. This board does a good job of keeping it light and not so much sky-is-falling as that other place. Sure, it helps us with story ideas and the sort, but it's also good to have an interaction with the fan base. That's why J-Mart's forum works so well at the Eagle's website. Just taking advantage of the technology.

October 27, 2006, 12:40:19 PM
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Jmart's q and a is really cool, it's too bad that fatty and stunner clog it up with stupid crap all of the time.

October 27, 2006, 12:43:49 PM
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If coaches and players start posting, we'll be looking for new jobs.


If that were true, I can think of a few coaches that would already be doing it.  ;)

October 27, 2006, 12:44:15 PM
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Are you talking about gem's like these? :)

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QJeff, safe to say the staff has this game pegged #1 on the hit-list above ku etc.. correct? I remember going to a practice awhile back and the coaches kept encouraging the players saying, "practice like you're playing nebraska!"
shwan, manhattan, ks 10/10/06

October 27, 2006, 12:45:11 PM
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October 27, 2006, 12:45:49 PM
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October 27, 2006, 01:08:13 PM
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You hear that JMart?... thats Ksu fans telling you not to expose anything hypocritical about their head coach and his 'coachspeak'. If you 'think' about what Prince is saying than you're doing too much. It doesn't matter that what he says doesn't make sense. If you expose Prince's hypocricy than there can be no doubt... you must have some sort of agenda against Ksu. Its so obvious.

Scuba, you sound like a jackass. If a man is lying and everyone in the room knows it, don't be surprised if one of them calls him out on it. It was the person's fault for lying in the first place.

You've got me all wrong Goldy?  I don't think JMart has some kind of agenda against KSU.  In fact, I don't think he gives two rips either way about KSU.   I'm just not buying the crap he's spewing about why he is does what he does.

October 27, 2006, 01:10:10 PM
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Scuba "owned" and/or "pwned" Gold...Boss and got "owned" and/or "pwned" by everyone else in this thread.  There's no way he can recover now.

October 27, 2006, 01:25:45 PM
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I don't think JMart has some kind of agenda against KSU.

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You went into that press conference with one goal.  "I'm going to make him admit to something he doesn't want to admit to.  If not, I'm going to rip him for it.  Either way, I get a good story.  Damn I'm good... heh... heh... heh."
I'm telling you, this is not ANYTHING like the team from the beginning of conference play. You will see no more blowouts like what happened in OOC.  If we lose, it will not because these kids gave up, and it will be at the buzzer. -Rodless, before 97-70

October 27, 2006, 01:35:49 PM
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Scuba got pwned by everyone in this thread that was not merely a casual observer.  Ouch.

October 27, 2006, 01:38:29 PM
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The competition at qb is over, Dylan is not getting better.

The competition is never over. Thats Prince's whole philosophy. Its what he's still preaching and pimping today.

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  But Ron Prince said going into fall camp that he was going to pick the qb that gave him the best chance of winning and stick with it.

So after the first few games he then bumps Dylan down and goes with Freeman who has 8 interceptions and 0 touchdown passes but is still firmly in the drivers seat for QB? If Prince preaches competition, why is there none whatsoever at the quarterback spot and why does Prince not admit this? Does zero competition deliver championships? Not according to Prince, and yet he's practicing it with this key position currently.
I'm telling you, this is not ANYTHING like the team from the beginning of conference play. You will see no more blowouts like what happened in OOC.  If we lose, it will not because these kids gave up, and it will be at the buzzer. -Rodless, before 97-70

October 27, 2006, 01:39:06 PM
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 In fact, I don't think he gives two rips either way about KSU.  

Bingo.