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October 27, 2009, 06:04:25 PM
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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

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1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

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#1 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... ISU!
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October 27, 2009, 06:08:02 PM
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can we disown haverhill? I will burn his adoption papers if no one else is willing to do it

October 27, 2009, 06:09:16 PM
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I have no interest winning the division at 4-4.
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October 27, 2009, 06:10:05 PM
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We have to win in Lincoln.

I don't want to back in to the CCG on a loss.  That's a very Huskerish way to win a banner.
Is your life so sad that KSU football isn't enough?

October 27, 2009, 06:10:20 PM
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can we disown haverhill? I will burn his adoption papers if no one else is willing to do it

I apologize for not being EMAW, but this is a real possibility if you lose to Nebraska. Don't shoot the messenger.
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October 27, 2009, 06:17:56 PM
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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

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1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

source

#1 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... ISU!

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but the "records of the three teams will be compared" in #1 is "conference records only...


Nice try, though. 

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October 27, 2009, 06:21:33 PM
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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

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1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

source

#1 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... ISU!

I don't mean to burst your bubble, but the "records of the three teams will be compared" in #1 is "conference records only...


Nice try, though. 

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At the top, I said "this is on Cyclone Fanatic." I didn't start this lol.
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October 27, 2009, 06:29:21 PM
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Understood, Haver....  But, now that I re-read it, I'm a bit confused myself.

It would seem that it could mean overall record, however that would almost seem to render step #6 a moot point.

Hell, who knows??  Let's just hope it doesn't come down to all this and somebody actually wins it on the playing field.

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October 27, 2009, 06:57:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure it means conference record.

October 27, 2009, 07:06:08 PM
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I suppose I could let this one go  :'(

October 27, 2009, 07:09:41 PM
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Haverhill is getting very annoying.

Like, BMW annoying.

October 27, 2009, 07:15:42 PM
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Understood, Haver....  But, now that I re-read it, I'm a bit confused myself.

It would seem that it could mean overall record, however that would almost seem to render step #6 a moot point.

Hell, who knows??  Let's just hope it doesn't come down to all this and somebody actually wins it on the playing field.

 :popcorn:

Crap has it really been that long since we've been out of it that nobody remembers how this works.

#1 refers to the records of the 3 teams among the games they played against each other.

October 27, 2009, 07:24:37 PM
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09 Big XII North = 08 Big XII South?
   
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Not in terms of how good the teams are but in how the champion could be decided.

I could see KSU, ISU and NU all tied at the end with KSU having the tie-breaker over ISU, ISU having the tie-breaker over NU and NU having the tie-breaker over KSU. Is this a real possibility?

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1. The records of the three teams will be compared against each other
2. The records of the three teams will be compared within their division
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6)
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents;
5. The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
6. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative
7. The representative will be chosen by draw.

source

#6 would knock KSU out (2-2 non conference), and then I think head-to-head would decide for... NOT ISU!

FYP.

October 27, 2009, 09:37:12 PM
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The 3 way tie breaker for the Big 12 is #5 FWIW.

Uhhh...no.   The bcs poll is a top 25 only.  No one in the north is in it now.  If a tie happens, there still won't be anyone in it.  May not be anyone in it without a tie. 

October 27, 2009, 10:06:41 PM
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Iowa State will lose @ ATM and we can put this to bed
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October 27, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
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Iowa State will lose @ ATM and we can put this to bed

+1

No way they go into two difficult places to win at in a row.  They'll be coming down off their post cornshucking high.  May get trounced if aTm has it in them for 2 weeks in a row.

October 27, 2009, 10:32:08 PM
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Understood, Haver....  But, now that I re-read it, I'm a bit confused myself.

It would seem that it could mean overall record, however that would almost seem to render step #6 a moot point.

Hell, who knows??  Let's just hope it doesn't come down to all this and somebody actually wins it on the playing field.

 :popcorn:

Crap has it really been that long since we've been out of it that nobody remembers how this works.

#1 refers to the records of the 3 teams among the games they played against each other.

This is how I read it.