The 2010 lineup

[Pete]

Let's assume for a moment that we DO land Spri (are we going with "Spri" or "Freddy," not sure yet on that ), and that he doesn't enter the draft this June.

We lose Denis but gain what appears to be a dominant post.  I don't think we'll miss Denis nearly as much as we'll benefit from Spri.  Mostly, I think our bigs will open things way up for Jake and the young guards.  No one is going to trap us on the perimeter and risk not having help inside against our bigs. 

I expect us to win the Big 12 next year.  I can't believe I just &@#%ing typed that.  <----- of joy. 

[sys]

there will be some other really talented teams in the big 12 too.  unless everyone bolts.  but yeah, next year's team looks significantly better than this year's.

[catzacker]

Assumnig we land Spri, next year will be the year we'll miss Fred Brown the most.  I'm not over fred and I don't think I'll be.

[Pete]

Assumnig we land Spri, next year will be the year we'll miss Fred Brown the most.  I'm not over fred and I don't think I'll be.

I am wrong in thinking that Rodney can fill this role, eventually?  I don't really have any expectation of him being our outside scoring this year, but with a year under his belt is it reasonable to expect that? 

[catzacker]

Assumnig we land Spri, next year will be the year we'll miss Fred Brown the most.  I'm not over fred and I don't think I'll be.

I am wrong in thinking that Rodney can fill this role, eventually?  I don't really have any expectation of him being our outside scoring this year, but with a year under his belt is it reasonable to expect that? 

I don't think Gruds will ever be that kind of shooter. He's Sutton-ish, I think.  Fred was fracking 42% from 3.  Martavious shot 44% in HS, we'll see how that translates.

[fatty fat fat]

fred sucked, zacker. sheesh.

[doom]

fred sucked, zacker. sheesh.

But he was quickly becoming less and less of a liability on defense which would have made him worth putting on the floor this year. 

[Pete]

fred sucked, zacker. sheesh.

But he was quickly becoming less and less of a liability on defense which would have made him worth putting on the floor this year. 

Is Spradling a good shooter?  He's white and he's not real tall...that's what those people are supposed to do, right?

[treysolid]

Rodney McGruder is, right now, a much better offensive threat than Fred Brown will ever be.  Keep sleeping on Grudz, tho.

[catzacker]

Rodney McGruder is, right now, a much better offensive threat than Fred Brown will ever be.  Keep sleeping on Grudz, tho.

he's not a better shooter than fred. 

[BullHawkWheel]

Let's assume for a moment that we DO land Spri (are we going with "Spri" or "Freddy," not sure yet on that ), and that he doesn't enter the draft this June.

We lose Denis but gain what appears to be a dominant post.  I don't think we'll miss Denis nearly as much as we'll benefit from Spri.  Mostly, I think our bigs will open things way up for Jake and the young guards.  No one is going to trap us on the perimeter and risk not having help inside against our bigs. 

I expect us to win the Big 12 next year.  I can't believe I just fracking typed that.  <----- of joy. 

lol, ku is laughing at you

[catzacker]

Let's assume for a moment that we DO land Spri (are we going with "Spri" or "Freddy," not sure yet on that ), and that he doesn't enter the draft this June.

We lose Denis but gain what appears to be a dominant post.  I don't think we'll miss Denis nearly as much as we'll benefit from Spri.  Mostly, I think our bigs will open things way up for Jake and the young guards.  No one is going to trap us on the perimeter and risk not having help inside against our bigs. 

I expect us to win the Big 12 next year.  I can't believe I just fracking typed that.  <----- of joy. 

lol, ku is laughing at you

i'm laughing at royce wooldridge.

[Pete]

Let's assume for a moment that we DO land Spri (are we going with "Spri" or "Freddy," not sure yet on that ), and that he doesn't enter the draft this June.

We lose Denis but gain what appears to be a dominant post.  I don't think we'll miss Denis nearly as much as we'll benefit from Spri.  Mostly, I think our bigs will open things way up for Jake and the young guards.  No one is going to trap us on the perimeter and risk not having help inside against our bigs. 

I expect us to win the Big 12 next year.  I can't believe I just fracking typed that.  <----- of joy. 

lol, ku is laughing at you

i'm laughing at royce wooldridge.

I'm laughing at Thomas Robinson.

[wes mantooth]

Let's assume for a moment that we DO land Spri (are we going with "Spri" or "Freddy," not sure yet on that ), and that he doesn't enter the draft this June.

We lose Denis but gain what appears to be a dominant post.  I don't think we'll miss Denis nearly as much as we'll benefit from Spri.  Mostly, I think our bigs will open things way up for Jake and the young guards.  No one is going to trap us on the perimeter and risk not having help inside against our bigs. 

I expect us to win the Big 12 next year.  I can't believe I just fracking typed that.  <----- of joy. 

lol, ku is laughing at you

i'm laughing at royce wooldridge.

I'm laughing at Thomas Robinson.

who?

[PowercatPat]

Does anyone think Judge will stay 2 years?

[yosh]

Does anyone think Judge will stay 2 years?

minimum

[BMWJhawk]

Too many variables for anyone to predict the Big 12 in 2010-2011.  Let's see how ku/Texas/OU's '10 recruiting classes shake out and who leaves early for the NBA.

[doom]

Too many variables for anyone to predict the Big 12 in 2010-2011.  Let's see how ku/Texas/OU's '10 recruiting classes shake out and who leaves early for the NBA.

Wow.  You sound terrified. 

[JTKSU]

You can actually smell the fear eminating from Ben's post.

[BMWJhawk]

I'm actually trying to be nice here... doesn't bother me at all if K-State wins a Big 12 title.  I just don't see how anyone can make that prediction with so many variables left on the table. 

[treysolid]

Rodney McGruder is, right now, a much better offensive threat than Fred Brown will ever be.  Keep sleeping on Grudz, tho.

he's not a better shooter than fred. 

maybe not quite as consistent was fred was, but his outside shot is fine.  he's just a more well-rounded offensive player already as a freshman.   

ref:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPz0z_h4b18

examples of outside shooting start at about the 1 minute mark.

[Pete]

I'm actually trying to be nice here... doesn't bother me at all if K-State wins a Big 12 title.  I just don't see how anyone can make that prediction with so many variables left on the table. 

We have had some really big freshman impacts in this league, so I understand your thinking here.  But, I'd argue that the majority of titles in this league have been won by teams with veteran talent....teams that largely depended on their veteran talent to win.

So, I see KSU as team that will depend on veterans, who appear to have quite a bit of promise right now. OU will fit that mold, and UT always does, but ku will be very short on veteran talent, relative to what they have had in past years.

[pissclams]

I'm actually trying to be nice here... doesn't bother me at all if K-State wins a Big 12 title.  I just don't see how anyone can make that prediction with so many variables left on the table. 

We have had some really big freshman impacts in this league, so I understand your thinking here.  But, I'd argue that the majority of titles in this league have been won by teams with veteran talent....teams that largely depended on their veteran talent to win.

So, I see KSU as team that will depend on veterans, who appear to have quite a bit of promise right now. OU will fit that mold, and UT always does, but ku will be very short on veteran talent, relative to what they have had in past years.

great post pete.  and rick barnes does a good job of negating any talent he brings into that program so ut should never be in the conversation.

[BMWJhawk]

ku would have quite a bit of experience with Reed (senior - unless he redshirts this year), Morningstar (senior), Morris twins (junior), Taylor (junior), and Releford (junior - unless he redshirts this year).  Robinson, Johnson, and Withey would be sophs.  If ku is able to sign someone like Barnes or Selby, there's no telling how good that team could be.  There's also a very, very slim possiblity that Xavier Henry returns for his sophomore year.


Potential starting lineup: 


PG - Taylor
SG - Johnson/Releford
SF - Mc. Morris/other
PF - Robinson
C - Mk. Morris

[pissclams]

ku would have quite a bit of experience with Reed (senior - unless he redshirts this year), Morningstar (senior), Morris twins (junior), Taylor (junior), and Releford (junior - unless he redshirts this year).  Robinson, Johnson, and Withey would be sophs.  If ku is able to sign someone like Barnes or Selby, there's no telling how good that team could be.  There's also a very, very slim possiblity that Xavier Henry returns for his sophomore year.


Potential starting lineup: 


PG - Taylor
SG - Johnson/Releford
SF - Mc. Morris/other
PF - Robinson
C - Mk. Morris

i've heard reports that are saying that Henry is the best player on ku's team, already.  that's pretty impressive if true.

[Pete]

ku would have quite a bit of experience with Reed (senior - unless he redshirts this year), Morningstar (senior), Morris twins (junior), Taylor (junior), and Releford (junior - unless he redshirts this year).  Robinson, Johnson, and Withey would be sophs.  If ku is able to sign someone like Barnes or Selby, there's no telling how good that team could be.  There's also a very, very slim possiblity that Xavier Henry returns for his sophomore year.


Potential starting lineup: 


PG - Taylor
SG - Johnson/Releford
SF - Mc. Morris/other
PF - Robinson
C - Mk. Morris

I'll be very, very disappointed if Judge, Kelly, Asprilla are not better than Mc Morris/Mk. Morris/Robinson.  Taylor is good, and Elijah is reportedly good, but KSU will be very athletic on the perimeter...they may not shoot for crap, but they'll defend.

[BMWJhawk]

You are going to be surprised at how much the Morris twins have improved.  There's a reason why Villanova and Memphis were their other two choices.  Thomas Robinson was a consensus top 25 prospect and probably could have been top 10.  Think Tyrus Thomas with a jumpshot.  ku will also have a 7'0 shot blocker in the post in Withey.  As for athleticism on the perimeter... Mc. Morris, Johnson, Taylor, etc. are all plenty athletic.

[doom]

You are going to be surprised at how much the Morris twins have improved.  There's a reason why Villanova and Memphis were their other two choices.  Thomas Robinson was a consensus top 25 prospect and probably could have been top 10.  Think Tyrus Thomas with a jumpshot.  ku will also have a 7'0 shot blocker in the post in Withey.  As for athleticism on the perimeter... Mc. Morris, Johnson, Taylor, etc. are all plenty athletic.

  pure fear

[BullHawkWheel]

ku would have quite a bit of experience with Reed (senior - unless he redshirts this year), Morningstar (senior), Morris twins (junior), Taylor (junior), and Releford (junior - unless he redshirts this year).  Robinson, Johnson, and Withey would be sophs.  If ku is able to sign someone like Barnes or Selby, there's no telling how good that team could be.  There's also a very, very slim possiblity that Xavier Henry returns for his sophomore year.


Potential starting lineup: 


PG - Taylor
SG - Johnson/Releford
SF - Mc. Morris/other
PF - Robinson
C - Mk. Morris

I'll be very, very disappointed if Judge, Kelly, Asprilla are not better than Mc Morris/Mk. Morris/Robinson.  Taylor is good, and Elijah is reportedly good, but KSU will be very athletic on the perimeter...they may not shoot for crap, but they'll defend.

Damn, you are gonna be one disappointed mother&@#%er.  Poor guy, I'll be there for you.

[dobbie4ksu]

I don't want to sound like a McGruder lackey or anything, but do any of you remember when he came and played with wally and the dc assault in the first Manhattan Classic? The final game 3 minutes left down by a huge amount and he decided to take the game into his own hands from outside, and was accurate and not afraid to stand up and hit the big shot, down as much as they were they only ended up losing by a few points thanks to the eliteness that is McGruesome, I think you all will be really surprised at what he will bring to this team, he may not be ready to start but I think he could be good off the bench like Cartier had to be when Walker took over the starting roll!