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October 05, 2009, 04:20:20 PM
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he's been very reliable so far back there. but why not banks? he's definitely more of a threat to take one back.

too much work handling pr, kr and wr?

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October 05, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
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I think Coach wants a guy that will not drop the ball. Banks has done that.


October 05, 2009, 04:31:29 PM
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he's been very reliable so far back there. but why not banks? he's definitely more of a threat to take one back.

too much work handling pr, kr and wr?

:dunno:

Maybe the same reason Sproles was pulled as pr during the uofk game a few yrs back.

October 05, 2009, 04:32:12 PM
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Snyder still wakes up crying because JMO fumbled that punt return and received a concussion....but most of all, cost him a win.

October 05, 2009, 04:39:01 PM
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Snyder still wakes up crying because JMO fumbled that punt return and received fakeda concussion....but most of all, cost him a win.

FYP.

October 05, 2009, 04:41:42 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

October 05, 2009, 04:46:30 PM
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Snyder still wakes up crying because JMO fumbled that punt return and received a concussion....but most of all, cost him a win.

Was that the one Vs. CU?
So, somehow, because you logged onto a message board, and read a quote that another guy wrote about Wefald, Wefald is "in your face?"  I'll go along with that.  I wish Hemmingway would get off my nuts.

October 05, 2009, 04:49:13 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.

October 05, 2009, 04:50:43 PM
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Banks on KR
Tysyn on PR.  End of story.

We have had very good luck with dudes named Tyson returning kicks.   :fatty:

October 05, 2009, 04:54:41 PM
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Tyson does a good job of fair catching everything.  Like, the best job ever.  Course, if you watch the punt return team "block", I'd fair catch everything too.  Would definitely like to see something else return punts or we need to do a punt block on every one of them.

October 05, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
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Tyson does a good job of fair catching everything.  Like, the best job ever.  Course, if you watch the punt return team "block", I'd fair catch everything too.  Would definitely like to see something else return punts or we need to do a punt block on every one of them.

That's my point.  Putting Banks back there to try and create a return against at least 4 unblocked guys with a full head of steam is a bad, bad, bad idea.

October 05, 2009, 05:14:25 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.
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October 05, 2009, 05:41:00 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I don't think the students do that anymore.
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October 05, 2009, 05:45:04 PM
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Tyson does a good job of fair catching everything.  Like, the best job ever.  Course, if you watch the punt return team "block", I'd fair catch everything too.  Would definitely like to see something else return punts or we need to do a punt block on every one of them.

That's my point.  Putting Banks back there to try and create a return against at least 4 unblocked guys with a full head of steam is a bad, bad, bad idea.

Yes, but Snyder is going for the lesser of two evils.  Due to know blocking Hartman fair catches the ball and at least KSU gets the ball at that point.  With Banks you not only risk a fumble, but his love to change directions (turn around and go back to the other side) sets up not only potential loses, but also puts blockers in lousy positions that often will lead to penalties.

It is a risk reward thing.  Right now the reward of Banks isn't enough to overcome the risks.

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October 05, 2009, 05:46:36 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft...:dunno:

Jermaine Moriera(or however the frack you spell it) was the toughest we've had.

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Show me defense.

October 05, 2009, 05:53:10 PM
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Endzone dive was one of the reasons Old Balls retired? I think he helped it along. Discuss.


October 05, 2009, 06:00:28 PM
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Endzone dive was one of the reasons Old Balls retired? I think he helped it along. Discuss.

endzone dive was in '06 vs Marshall
Show me defense.

October 05, 2009, 06:19:23 PM
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If the opposing team was to fake punk and get a guy loose in the open field, Hartman will have a better chance of making a touchdown saving tackle. 

October 05, 2009, 06:29:49 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I don't think the students do that anymore.

This makes me weep if true.  Do the students do anything anymore?  I bet they don't even Wabash.  Yeesh.   :piratecaptain:

October 05, 2009, 06:32:41 PM
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I think Coach wants a guy that will not drop the ball. Banks has done that.

Yep. After Brandon starting @ PR vs. UMass then dropping one of the punts and having bad judgement about fielding the ball, Tysyn has been the man. :frown:

At least Hartman fielded that one where he got cheap shotted vs. ISU. Don't think Brandon would've been able to get up as fast as Tysyn did.

October 05, 2009, 07:13:38 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I don't think the students do that anymore.

This makes me weep if true.  Do the students do anything anymore?  I bet they don't even Wabash.  Yeesh.   :piratecaptain:

They do this really gay thing where they do a tomahawk chop with their hand in the shape of a  :eyeseeyou: but without the O closed - more of a C.   What's gay about it is they do it while KSU is on offense and they chant.   Because we all know that making noise while you're offense is on the field really helps them communicate.  Dumb fuq's.
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October 05, 2009, 08:04:59 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I don't think the students do that anymore.

This makes me weep if true.  Do the students do anything anymore?  I bet they don't even Wabash.  Yeesh.   :piratecaptain:

I ended up in far better seats than normal on Saturday (the beauty of ordering early from KSU for Farmageddon tickets).  What drove me nuts was how many people that were young (students, but middle aged) that made noise while the 'Cats were on offense.  The number of df's out there is quite high.

Now, I guess I should be happy that middle aged farts made noise.  I just wish they'd use some commonsense while at it.

Sam S.

They do this really gay thing where they do a tomahawk chop with their hand in the shape of a  :eyeseeyou: but without the O closed - more of a C.   What's gay about it is they do it while KSU is on offense and they chant.   Because we all know that making noise while you're offense is on the field really helps them communicate.  Dumb fuq's.
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October 05, 2009, 08:14:58 PM
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dr00d wrote a "ksu icat now sucks" manifesto after attending the UMASS game and it was dead on.


This new crop has no effing clue how to act during KSU football games. The real measure of how far we've fallen from DoD status.

Wabash is half assed.

They don't do the punt chant.

Don't know the words to KSU Alma Mater. wtf

get your act together
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October 05, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
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Tyson does a good job of fair catching everything.  Like, the best job ever.  Course, if you watch the punt return team "block", I'd fair catch everything too.  Would definitely like to see something else return punts or we need to do a punt block on every one of them.

So true.  Catching a punt with this ST's crew must feel similar to what the POles felt as the Blitzkrieg was coming at them.

October 05, 2009, 08:53:14 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft...:dunno:

Jermaine Moriera(or however the frack you spell it) was the toughest we've had.

(CU '05) :chainsaw:

Are you freaking nuts? The toughest was David Allen. Time to rewatch the old games, sonny.

the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I don't think the students do that anymore.

This makes me weep if true.  Do the students do anything anymore?  I bet they don't even Wabash.  Yeesh.   :piratecaptain:

They do this really gay thing where they do a tomahawk chop with their hand in the shape of a  :eyeseeyou: but without the O closed - more of a C.   What's gay about it is they do it while KSU is on offense and they chant.   Because we all know that making noise while you're offense is on the field really helps them communicate.  Dumb fuq's.

Sounds like an act of "manual stimulation" to me.  :jerkoff:

October 05, 2009, 09:05:04 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft...:dunno:

Jermaine Moriera(or however the frack you spell it) was the toughest we've had.

(CU '05) :chainsaw:

Are you freaking nuts? The toughest was David Allen. Time to rewatch the old games, sonny.


toughest to pronounce, brah.

October 05, 2009, 11:14:12 PM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft...:dunno:

Jermaine Moriera(or however the frack you spell it) was the toughest we've had.

(CU '05) :chainsaw:

Are you freaking nuts? The toughest was David Allen. Time to rewatch the old games, sonny.


Is this sarcasm?  WTF are you talking about? David Allen rolled off the tongue. 
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October 06, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
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the versatility of the [insert punt returners name] chant we do is absolutely absurd.

I often try to think of names that won't work.

Haven't come up with any.

Mario Fatafehi

For those youngsters who don't remember: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Fatafehi

Would have been a stud returning kicks.  Think Joe Hall.  :D
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October 06, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
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dr00d wrote a "ksu icat now sucks" manifesto after attending the UMASS game and it was dead on.


This new crop has no effing clue how to act during KSU football games. The real measure of how far we've fallen from DoD status.

Wabash is half assed.

They don't do the punt chant.

Don't know the words to KSU Alma Mater. wtf

get your act together

Are "EMAW Code of Conduct" flyers needed?

October 06, 2009, 06:33:21 PM
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Quick poll; when you were a student and you were standing during the game, during TV time-outs did you:
A. Retire to your tail-gate
B. Did nothing because KSU was never on TV
C. Sit down on the seat you were standing on making it a gigantic waste of energy to get back up to stand on your seat, and lets be honest a full night & day of drinking made you do everything possible to avoid wasting energy.
or
D. Sit on the seat behind you, knowing that all of the other students were not retarded enough to try option C. and it would be much easier to step up the 6" to stand on the seat in front of you rather than the full 1.5' on the seat you were sitting on.


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