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October 16, 2006, 06:20:57 PM
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Based on what? Freeman only went to KSU because he wanted to play immediately. He realized there was no way he'd beat out Zach Taylor and would probably be sitting behind Harrison Beck. So he left to go to Manhattan because Ron Prince promised him the job. That means that even Freeman realized that Taylor was a better QB than he was. Otherwise he would have nutted it up and come to Lincoln to compete for a job.

Taylor's team has a better W-L record, they just slapped you guys around, and you're still trying to run smack about your QB who led your team to a lone field goal being better than Taylor? Dream On.  :lol:

For the season:
Taylor has completed 65.2% of his passes for 1547 yards, with 14 TDs and 2 INTs.
Freeman has completed 43.1% of his passes for 663 yards, with 0 TDs and 6 INTs.

There's not even a comparison there. The idea that you suggest that Freeman is better than Taylor is ridiculous. That's like comparing the driving skills of Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Stevie Wonder. You're a complete idiot.  :lol:

 :flush: K-State!!!

October 16, 2006, 06:28:19 PM
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Not this again.

Most would trade one year of Taylor for 4 of Freeman.

It's common sense.

October 16, 2006, 06:34:57 PM
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Keller is touted as a potential first round NFL draft pick. He's got a massive amount of big game experience, is a smart kid, and gets a year to learn the offense before taking over. Taylor is a good QB in his own right, but lacks the talent that Keller has. We lose a few important guys on our defensive front, but otherwise the Huskers will be far better next year than this year. Great QB, Great RBs (esp Lucky), Great WRs, a better offensive line, and a far better secondary. The Huskers are good this year, but will be loaded for bear next year.

By who?  Who's touting him as first round pick? I haven't seen anyone say that at all.

Yeah, he's got big game experience, in an offense designed by Koetter who's having all kinds of issues here at ASU and will be fired at the end of the season.   Taylor is at best, an average QB, who'll probably sign as a free-agent for some program because he hasn't proven himself in a big program.  Hell, he didn't have great numbers against KSU.

You lose all the NFL potential you have this year on defense.  You'll have a couple of good returning starters, but you'll be marginally better next year.

October 16, 2006, 06:57:03 PM
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By who?  Who's touting him as first round pick? I haven't seen anyone say that at all.

Here he is listed as a Top 5 QB prospect with Quinn and Stanton. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9370926
Here he is listed as a potential first rounder:

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If Keller loses significant time to 2005 NCAA pass-efficiency leader Rudy Carpenter this year, he’ll be a second-day pick in ’07. Though he doesn’t have the mobility of his sophomore counterpart, we like the senior’s chances of getting the majority of field time, and with a productive, healthy ‘06 campaign, the strong-armed Keller could crack the first round. He's plenty 'efficient' himself. The 6-4/229 signal-caller got off to a hot start last season, throwing 20 TD passes and just nine INTs before tearing a ligament in his thumb and missing the final five contests. A healthy Keller is a highly-intriguing NFL prospect, and he’s reportedly 100% this spring.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=CFB&majteam=FL&columnid=55&article=21019

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You lose all the NFL potential you have this year on defense.  You'll have a couple of good returning starters, but you'll be marginally better next year.

Are you serious? We lose our DEs, Moore and Carriker...that's a loss, but we have great depth. Our LBS will be a year older and more experienced. Our DBs will be tons better with the emergence of Thenarse and the return of Bowman. Maybe you've heard of Bowman....he tore up his knee preseason, but is our resident stud DB...he'll be back next year and ready to go. The defense overall will be better next year.

October 16, 2006, 07:05:14 PM
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By who?  Who's touting him as first round pick? I haven't seen anyone say that at all.

Here he is listed as a Top 5 QB prospect with Quinn and Stanton. http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9370926
Here he is listed as a potential first rounder:

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If Keller loses significant time to 2005 NCAA pass-efficiency leader Rudy Carpenter this year, he’ll be a second-day pick in ’07. Though he doesn’t have the mobility of his sophomore counterpart, we like the senior’s chances of getting the majority of field time, and with a productive, healthy ‘06 campaign, the strong-armed Keller could crack the first round. He's plenty 'efficient' himself. The 6-4/229 signal-caller got off to a hot start last season, throwing 20 TD passes and just nine INTs before tearing a ligament in his thumb and missing the final five contests. A healthy Keller is a highly-intriguing NFL prospect, and he’s reportedly 100% this spring.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/features/column.aspx?sport=CFB&majteam=FL&columnid=55&article=21019

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You lose all the NFL potential you have this year on defense.  You'll have a couple of good returning starters, but you'll be marginally better next year.

Are you serious? We lose our DEs, Moore and Carriker...that's a loss, but we have great depth. Our LBS will be a year older and more experienced. Our DBs will be tons better with the emergence of Thenarse and the return of Bowman. Maybe you've heard of Bowman....he tore up his knee preseason, but is our resident stud DB...he'll be back next year and ready to go. The defense overall will be better next year.

You realize that those articles were written in the Spring right?  You realize they were under the assumption that he'd play this year right?

Do you realize that when he transferred, that his value was erased?   Now you're telling me he's going to pick up where he left off and just cruise to a new draft order?

You make me laugh.

You're not that deep.   Nothing you showed in the game against KSU demonstrated you had any depth.

You're just spanking your monkey a little too much.



October 16, 2006, 07:14:41 PM
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Hos value is erased? Yeah...the fact that he put up big numbers against teams like LSU and USC just disappeared. The fact that he had top-flight NFL talent just vanished once he transferred. :lol:

You're an idiot. He's here in Lincoln running the scout team, and learning the offense. He'll be ready to go next spring, and will lead the Huskers to a Top 10 finish and a BCS Bowl.

 :flush: K-State!!!

October 16, 2006, 07:23:47 PM
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Hos value is erased? Yeah...the fact that he put up big numbers against teams like LSU and USC just disappeared. The fact that he had top-flight NFL talent just vanished once he transferred. :lol:

Yeah, actually, it does because the assumption those articles make is that he was to play THIS YEAR.  Since he doesn't, he has no draft value because no one will touch a QB coming out of college that hasn't played a year.   Unless of course.. you can prove that what I said isn't true.. and I'm sure you can't.

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You're an idiot. He's here in Lincoln running the scout team, and learning the offense. He'll be ready to go next spring, and will lead the Huskers to a Top 10 finish and a BCS Bowl.

 :flush: K-State!!!


Yeah, I heard this before.   You all thought Callahan was going to take Nebraska to the NC game this year.  That ain't gonna happen.   I doubt you win the north.


October 16, 2006, 07:30:17 PM
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Yeah, actually, it does because the assumption those articles make is that he was to play THIS YEAR.  Since he doesn't, he has no draft value because no one will touch a QB coming out of college that hasn't played a year.   Unless of course.. you can prove that what I said isn't true.. and I'm sure you can't.

Are you slow or something? Keller will start for NU next year and lead them to a BCS berth. He has 1st round NFL talent, whether at ASU or NU, and will be in a position to show it off. We get virtually our entire receiving corps back. It'll be an amazingly explosive offense.

So Keller won't be coming off a year on the bench and into the draft. He'll be coming off a year as the starter for one of the most prolific offenses in college football.

October 16, 2006, 07:41:50 PM
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Yeah, actually, it does because the assumption those articles make is that he was to play THIS YEAR.  Since he doesn't, he has no draft value because no one will touch a QB coming out of college that hasn't played a year.   Unless of course.. you can prove that what I said isn't true.. and I'm sure you can't.

Are you slow or something? Keller will start for NU next year and lead them to a BCS berth. He has 1st round NFL talent, whether at ASU or NU, and will be in a position to show it off. We get virtually our entire receiving corps back. It'll be an amazingly explosive offense.

So Keller won't be coming off a year on the bench and into the draft. He'll be coming off a year as the starter for one of the most prolific offenses in college football.

No, I'm not slow, you're delusional.

Show me draft order after he plays.  If anyone can kill a good QB, it's Callahan.


October 16, 2006, 08:06:58 PM
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Tearing up the scout team.

Outstanding!!

October 16, 2006, 10:02:37 PM
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Show me draft order after he plays. 

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If anyone can kill a good QB, it's Callahan.

Based on what? Taylor's the only one he's brought in and developed, and he's playing well.

October 16, 2006, 10:11:37 PM
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Show me draft order after he plays. 

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If anyone can kill a good QB, it's Callahan.

Based on what? Taylor's the only one he's brought in and developed, and he's playing well.

Not really, not as well as he could be.  He's not lighting up the field.

October 16, 2006, 10:15:58 PM
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Not really, not as well as he could be.  He's not lighting up the field.

Taylor has completed 65.2% of his passes for 1547 yards, with 14 TDs and 2 INTs. The Huskers are 6-1.

That's a very efficient performance, with an average of 221 passing yards, 2 TDs, and .29 INTs a game...mind you that's for a team running the ball a lot. He's managing games for us, avoiding mistakes, and making big plays as needed. Taylor's a good QB.

October 16, 2006, 10:17:50 PM
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Not really, not as well as he could be.  He's not lighting up the field.

Taylor has completed 65.2% of his passes for 1547 yards, with 14 TDs and 2 INTs. The Huskers are 6-1.

That's a very efficient performance, with an average of 221 passing yards, 2 TDs, and .29 INTs a game...mind you that's for a team running the ball a lot. He's managing games for us, avoiding mistakes, and making big plays as needed. Taylor's a good QB.

In that context, probably doing as well as any quarterback that's had a year or so in the system, especially where NU has returned to the ground game.

Efficient, yes, but not phenominal, and not against better competition.   His averages were lowered when he played KSU, not that he had to actually go in and save the game either.

October 16, 2006, 11:48:40 PM
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Keller 1st round talent???????

yea, cause I would bench 1st round talent too.....kinda like Keller was benched at ASU

with your kind of reasoning Freeman will be the #1 overall pick when he comes out in 3 years

October 17, 2006, 08:17:47 AM
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they're hiding taylor when they don't even let him throw when the game's on the line.

or you could realize that there is a freshman and a sophomore qb in the big 12 that have better ratings than taylor.

and another sophomore that is carrying is actually carrying his team, and not just baggage that needs to be protected.

you twerps are @#%$ stupid.

Loot at the pot calling the kettle black you, 'tard.  No one understand your points because you have no discernible points to make.  Taylor didn't sling it 30-40 times because he didn't have to now STFU.  Llet the adults discuss this and sit this one out.   :nahnah:

October 17, 2006, 01:38:07 PM
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Loot at the pot calling the kettle black you, 'tard.  No one understand your points because you have no discernible points to make.  Taylor didn't sling it 30-40 times because he didn't have to now STFU.  Llet the adults discuss this and sit this one out.   :nahnah:

already said i wasn't talking about the ksu game.

when your team is down 2 scores in the fourth quarter, and your qb attempts two passes....there are two possible explanations:

1.  the coaching staff is chit stupid
2.  the coaching staff is hiding the qb

and whichever of those you choose, it still means you're a fuggin' moron.

October 17, 2006, 03:38:17 PM
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Loot at the pot calling the kettle black you, 'tard.  No one understand your points because you have no discernible points to make.  Taylor didn't sling it 30-40 times because he didn't have to now STFU.  Llet the adults discuss this and sit this one out.   :nahnah:

already said i wasn't talking about the ksu game.

when your team is down 2 scores in the fourth quarter, and your qb attempts two passes....there are two possible explanations:

1.  the coaching staff is chit stupid
2.  the coaching staff is hiding the qb

and whichever of those you choose, it still means you're a fuggin' moron.

Okay coitus interruptus, I choose neither.  Where's my gold star? :D  I think we both need a drink.