Dear football expert guys,

[WildCatzPhreak]

Are we going to have better talent on the football field this year than we did last year?  Where will we be better, and where will we be worse?

Thanks,

WildCatzPhreak

 

[hemmy]

Think '98 talent

[hemmy]

Maybe I meant '88, can't remember.

[Catmatt]

Split the difference and call it '93 talent. 

I'm actually leaning towards '91 talent myself--enough pieces to surprise some folks, but not enough to make a legitimate run.

[ksuarchi]

I think the D-Line will be better which should shore up and hide alot of our defensive problems i think...
http://www.cjonline.com/sports/football/2009-08-08/ksu_d_looks_for_jumpstart

Qb will be a drop but I think Coach will make due... its not like Freeman was a typical Snyder guy anyway

I'm pumped for the season, I think there will be some positive surprises!

I'm drinking the kool-aid though
             

[steve dave]

Football expert here.  Here is the analysis from someone in the "biz":

OL:  Worse. Same guys minus some injuries.

QB:  Way, way worse.

RB:  Equal.  Total suckville. Same losers from last year minus some who changed position and plus some 18 year olds and a guy that just barely got qualified via Manhattan Christian.

WR:  Same guys so hopefully they got better.  BETTER! B-.

DL:  Has to be better.  Looks great compared to the sucktown USA that is the rest of the D but is prolly not top 5 in the Big 12.

LB:  We may not have a single LB that would start at any LB position in the Big 12.  Hilarious badness.  Equal to or better than last year.

CB:  Josh is good!  Maybe a shade worse given no CB depth now. 

So, in summary, we are probably worse talent wise.  Luckily we have an easier schedule so we may get a few Ws. 

[JTKSU]

Football expert here.  Here is the analysis from someone in the "biz":

OL:  Worse. Same guys minus some injuries.

QB:  Way, way worse.

RB:  Equal.  Total suckville. Same losers from last year minus some who changed position and plus some 18 year olds and a guy that just barely got qualified via Manhattan Christian.

WR:  Same guys so hopefully they got better.  BETTER! B-.

DL:  Has to be better.  Looks great compared to the sucktown USA that is the rest of the D but is prolly not top 5 in the Big 12.

LB:  We may not have a single LB that would start at any LB position in the Big 12.  Hilarious badness.  Equal to or better than last year.

CB:  Josh is good!  Maybe a shade worse given no CB depth now. 

So, in summary, we are probably worse talent wise.  Luckily we have an easier schedule so we may get a few Ws. 

You neglected to mention the safeties.  I assume they will be better, it would be hard to actually be worse.  Also, I tend to think that D. Thomas + Hubert + Flanders >>>Valentine + Dold + Brown.  IMO anyway.

[steve dave]

Football expert here.  Here is the analysis from someone in the "biz":

OL:  Worse. Same guys minus some injuries.

QB:  Way, way worse.

RB:  Equal.  Total suckville. Same losers from last year minus some who changed position and plus some 18 year olds and a guy that just barely got qualified via Manhattan Christian.

WR:  Same guys so hopefully they got better.  BETTER! B-.

DL:  Has to be better.  Looks great compared to the sucktown USA that is the rest of the D but is prolly not top 5 in the Big 12.

LB:  We may not have a single LB that would start at any LB position in the Big 12.  Hilarious badness.  Equal to or better than last year.

CB:  Josh is good!  Maybe a shade worse given no CB depth now. 

So, in summary, we are probably worse talent wise.  Luckily we have an easier schedule so we may get a few Ws. 

You neglected to mention the safeties.  I assume they will be better, it would be hard to actually be worse.  Also, I tend to think that D. Thomas + Hubert + Flanders >>>Valentine + Dold + Brown.  IMO anyway.

OK.  Do your own list

[cireksu]

D. Thomas + Hubert + Flanders >>>Valentine + Dold + Brown

you hope.

[The42Yardstick]

Hello. I am a football expert^tm. However, my analysis will cost $29.95 or three

[kcchiefdav]

OL:  Better or same. Same guys for the most part. Better coaching

QB: Worse, but with better play calling.

RB:  Same, but will actually get carries.

WR:  Same guys with better coaching.

DL:  See WRs

LB:  Same but still awful.

DB: Same but hopefully won't quit as easily as last year.

Summary, we aren't better at any spot, but we'll see how much more we can do with better coaching, game-planning and play calling.

[JTKSU]

Football expert here.  Here is the analysis from someone in the "biz":

OL:  Worse. Same guys minus some injuries.

QB:  Way, way worse.

RB:  Equal.  Total suckville. Same losers from last year minus some who changed position and plus some 18 year olds and a guy that just barely got qualified via Manhattan Christian.

WR:  Same guys so hopefully they got better.  BETTER! B-.

DL:  Has to be better.  Looks great compared to the sucktown USA that is the rest of the D but is prolly not top 5 in the Big 12.

LB:  We may not have a single LB that would start at any LB position in the Big 12.  Hilarious badness.  Equal to or better than last year.

CB:  Josh is good!  Maybe a shade worse given no CB depth now. 

So, in summary, we are probably worse talent wise.  Luckily we have an easier schedule so we may get a few Ws. 

You neglected to mention the safeties.  I assume they will be better, it would be hard to actually be worse.  Also, I tend to think that D. Thomas + Hubert + Flanders >>>Valentine + Dold + Brown.  IMO anyway.

OK.  Do your own list

The only thing I disagreed with was the RBs, so I threw my 2 cents in.

[JTKSU]

D. Thomas + Hubert + Flanders >>>Valentine + Dold + Brown

you hope.

Notice I didn't say they were going to be anything special, only better than what we had.  It's not hard to improve on a juco walk-on, a converted safety, and a converted LB.  Course, they'll still suck if nobody blocks for them again.

[opcat]

Football expert here.  Here is the analysis from someone in the "biz":

OL:  Worse. Same guys minus some injuries.

QB:  Way, way worse.

RB:  Equal.  Total suckville. Same losers from last year minus some who changed position and plus some 18 year olds and a guy that just barely got qualified via Manhattan Christian.

WR:  Same guys so hopefully they got better.  BETTER! B-.

DL:  Has to be better.  Looks great compared to the sucktown USA that is the rest of the D but is prolly not top 5 in the Big 12.

LB:  We may not have a single LB that would start at any LB position in the Big 12.  Hilarious badness.  Equal to or better than last year.

CB:  Josh is good!  Maybe a shade worse given no CB depth now. 

So, in summary, we are probably worse talent wise.  Luckily we have an easier schedule so we may get a few Ws. 

new coach for your info.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=84020&draftyear=2010&genpos=OLB

88 & 89 you giant pile of sh**.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012?&start_row=1101

[WildCatzPhreak]

Football expert here.  Here is the analysis from someone in the "biz":

OL:  Worse. Same guys minus some injuries.

QB:  Way, way worse.

RB:  Equal.  Total suckville. Same losers from last year minus some who changed position and plus some 18 year olds and a guy that just barely got qualified via Manhattan Christian.

WR:  Same guys so hopefully they got better.  BETTER! B-.

DL:  Has to be better.  Looks great compared to the sucktown USA that is the rest of the D but is prolly not top 5 in the Big 12.

LB:  We may not have a single LB that would start at any LB position in the Big 12.  Hilarious badness.  Equal to or better than last year.

CB:  Josh is good!  Maybe a shade worse given no CB depth now. 

So, in summary, we are probably worse talent wise.  Luckily we have an easier schedule so we may get a few Ws. 

Thanks for the analysis bro!

I am hoping my fav team can win some more games this year.

[MadCat]

So, is Deon Murphy not a great loss?

[steve dave]

So, is Deon Murphy not a great loss?

He is.  Moreso in the return game imo.  He dropped a lot of balls.

[catzacker]

So, is Deon Murphy not a great loss?

He is.  Moreso in the return game imo.  He dropped a lot of balls.

Snyds will have special teams ready to roll.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTQS_k4XiQ

[wildcat79]

I concur with your post! Here's what I believe right now. Just general thoughts about the season. Snyder will be successful this year in reinstilling disipline, understanding and organization plus sense of direction among the coaches and players. Players will have greater understanding of what their roll is what expectations are. Snyder is a master at putting talent where it needs to be in order to succeed.  We will see a team that will play every down with the belief that they can be successful on every play. This in my view will make them impressive. I didn't say win every game. We will see a system in place that will be built upon. IMHO

I think the D-Line will be better which should shore up and hide alot of our defensive problems i think...
http://www.cjonline.com/sports/football/2009-08-08/ksu_d_looks_for_jumpstart

Qb will be a drop but I think Coach will make due... its not like Freeman was a typical Snyder guy anyway

I'm pumped for the season, I think there will be some positive surprises!

I'm drinking the kool-aid though
              

[wildcat79]

I thought Freeman could have been unbelievable.  I think a case could be made against Prince charging him with coaching mal practice. Freeman didn't improve one bit from my view while at K-state. I still believe him to be a talent. That said I don't believe the current quarterback to have abilities anywhere close to Freeman. I do believe Snyder will allow him to be successful though.

[yoga-lika_abana]

Were screwed.

We don't have enough talented dbacks to run the 4-2-5 but I'm pretty sure this is what we will be mainly running and the lbs are lol hilarious so any formation that puts more than 3 lbs is out of the question,.

the most depth we have is in the dline so we will pretty much always be running a 4 man front in a pass heavy conference. this will help with those slip screens that we always got killed on last year. and hopefully on running plays are de's can contain the outside and let fitzgerald do all of the work because we know nobody else is going to make a tackle.

as for the offense I honestly don't know how we are going to score points especially in the redzone. way to many hopefullys on the offense and defense.

special teams should be good.

gooooo catz 

[HOFcanwait]

I thought Freeman could have been unbelievable.  I think a case could be made against Prince charging him with coaching mal practice. Freeman didn't improve one bit from my view while at K-state. I still believe him to be a talent. That said I don't believe the current quarterback to have abilities anywhere close to Freeman. I do believe Snyder will allow him to be successful though.

Agree with a lot of this.

I think Snyder will actually run plays that make the team do well and not his cherished 1st round QB. And hope to get a few ST, defensive, or trick play tds

[hemmy]

Hello. I am a football expert^tm. However, my analysis will cost $29.95 or three

Get to analyzing

[The Kaiser]

QB: Freemaw was drafted on upside, measurables, not on accomplishments in college.  I loved watching him play, but with few exceptions (OSU x 2, UT x 2, CU x 2) the guy underwhelmed.  He never got better, but he would have under Snyder.  For everytime he did something great, he turned it over 6 times in Lawrence, or threw a key pick, or missed a pass, generally did not inspire or lead (IMHO).  I guess what I am saying is that Freemaw at KSU was the same as his draft status, I expected more.  Therefore, I don't think the end results are going to be a "huge dropoff".  Make a few plays, don't cost us games and I will be fine.

DL: The DL is WAY more talented than it was last year if for no other reason than we add Fitzgerald and Abana and lost nobody.

LB: MUCH, much better, if for no other reason than ONLY 2 will be on the field at any one time. 

[ksuarchi]

QB: Freemaw was drafted on upside, measurables, not on accomplishments in college.  I loved watching him play, but with few exceptions (OSU x 2, UT x 2, CU x 2) the guy underwhelmed.  He never got better, but he would have under Snyder.  For everytime he did something great, he turned it over 6 times in Lawrence, or threw a key pick, or missed a pass, generally did not inspire or lead (IMHO).  I guess what I am saying is that Freemaw at KSU was the same as his draft status, I expected more.  Therefore, I don't think the end results are going to be a "huge dropoff".  Make a few plays, don't cost us games and I will be fine.

DL: The DL is WAY more talented than it was last year if for no other reason than we add Fitzgerald and Abana and lost nobody.

LB: MUCH, much better, if for no other reason than ONLY 2 will be on the field at any one time. 

QFMFT   

[fatty fat fat]

QFMFT   

seriously? i mean, i don't want to shutdown a major emaw production plant...but c'mon bros.

[ksuarchi]

FFF - I'm just pumped for football season, and optimistic we can field a bowl team for my final year   

[~WabashRoll~]

QB: Freemaw was drafted on upside, measurables, not on accomplishments in college.  I loved watching him play, but with few exceptions (OSU x 2, UT x 2, CU x 2) the guy underwhelmed.  He never got better, but he would have under Snyder.  For everytime he did something great, he turned it over 6 times in Lawrence, or threw a key pick, or missed a pass, generally did not inspire or lead (IMHO).  I guess what I am saying is that Freemaw at KSU was the same as his draft status, I expected more.  Therefore, I don't think the end results are going to be a "huge dropoff".  Make a few plays, don't cost us games and I will be fine.

DL: The DL is WAY more talented than it was last year if for no other reason than we add Fitzgerald and Abana and lost nobody.

LB: MUCH, much better, if for no other reason than ONLY 2 will be on the field at any one time. 

THIS^

Plus, RB better.  Frack, anything is better than last year.  Yeah, we've bought into the hype before with JUCO's, but I believe D Thomas is actually going to bring a new dimension to the table.

WR.  I still believe is going to blow.  Banks is a nice threat, but we've got no other playmakers in the group.  Lamark is what he is, and then there's nobody else stepping in.  Losing Murphy does hurt and Snyder crapping his pants in addressing this need in the last recruiting class will hurt this unit in general.  D Thomas is another wildcard here, though.  Probably see him split out a bunch and catching a lot of passes in atypical formations ala Frank Murphy.

Secondary, better.  If for no other reason, they are actually receiving some legitimate D1 coaching for the first time in their college careers.  Moore, proven commodity.  We'll see who emerges at the other corner positions.  Lamur is said to be legit at safety.  This unit as a whole could be a surprise.

LB's.  Continued Suckage.  As noted above though, will be better as a whole, because there will be fewer of them on the field.

[jthutch]

So, is Deon Murphy not a great loss?

He is.  Moreso in the return game imo.  He dropped a lot of balls.

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YES!

[LesMiserables]

The OL will be better?  Last year's OL was one of the most experienced in the conference.  This year's has less than forty starts after losing its first or second best guy to injury.  Same guys?  After losing Bedore, Spexarth, Alesana, Liu and Prince [that's three starters and two from the two deep]?  Do you even follow your own team? 

OL:  Better or same. Same guys for the most part. Better coaching

QB: Worse, but with better play calling.

RB:  Same, but will actually get carries.

WR:  Same guys with better coaching.

DL:  See WRs

LB:  Same but still awful.

DB: Same but hopefully won't quit as easily as last year.

Summary, we aren't better at any spot, but we'll see how much more we can do with better coaching, game-planning and play calling.