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Author Topic: Keitzman slams Carson Coffman  (Read 5739 times)

July 30, 2009, 12:06:14 PM
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I think the funny part about all this is that some people are assuming Coffman would be good in a passing offense.

July 30, 2009, 12:10:22 PM
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    I'm with Coco.
More concerned about RB than QB.

Between Hubert and Thomas, I'm confident we'll be alright at RB, atleast in the long run. We'll just suck every where else.

July 30, 2009, 12:25:30 PM
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What worries me the most, regardless of which QB(s) will be taking the field, is that we are taking on a new offensive approach, pushing it on a group of kids who likely don't fit that mold or style of play, and expecting improvement over last year.  While Snyder has demonstrated his ability to get players to play above their individual levels of talent, there are going to be constraints on that approach, especially this season.

My biggest concern is that we will not be successful as we'll be starting 1st down and 15 at least 6 times a game due to delay of game penalties.

July 30, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
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Who's expecting improvement on offense over last year?

July 30, 2009, 02:47:48 PM
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Can't believe we have 3 white QBs.  Ridiculous.

Dumb, racist cracker!

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January 08, 2010, 11:40:32 AM
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This old thread got me thinking:

1.) We're really, really fracked if Coffman is starting for us at QB this year.

2.) I'm a genius per my Thomas=McFadden lite comparison.  Hope the guy gets more Wildcat plays next year.   :combofan:

January 08, 2010, 12:32:29 PM
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I don't think there's any question that Thomas will be taking snaps at times.  He should be very adapt at running the wildcat formation, and since he's played quarterback before, the defenses have to respect the chance that he'll throw the ball instead of run it.

That could get even more complex if you see Coffman and Thomas in the backfield at the same time.  Defenses have to worry about the run or the pass every single play, even if it's designed as a pass play or a run play, it could easily turn into the other based on how the defense reacts.  Coffman will be a better passing threat but with some ability to run.  Thomas will be a better running threat but with some ability to pass.  I like the possibilities.  I just hope that Snyder is willing to experiment a little more than he did in the years leading up to retirement.

Frankly, I'll be disappointed if Thomas lines up at receiver.

I'm not so worried about the quarterback position.  If Carson can just avoid turning the ball over, and make some key third down passes, that's all we'll need from him.  We don't need him to be a huge playmaker, just play the position well enough to move the chains without turning it over.  I wouldn't be opposed to starting one of our younger quarterbacks and grooming him for the future though, and taking our lumps in the learning process.  I don't think there would be much of a drop off if Carson was replaced by someone like Klein, who is probably more physically gifted and just lacks the experience.

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Who plays QB is not as important as who is on the O-line.  Some of our guys who "suck" would look like Joe Montana if they had enough time, and a good O-line is the only way to make that happen.

January 08, 2010, 01:30:44 PM
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I do laugh at little . . . . I guess some of you guys are too young to remember Snyder's offense in the early years.  Because while it lined 

We are recruiting Billy Cosh, and while he's mobile he's no Bishop, and frankly no Jon Beasley . . . but I have a hunch it won't matter because I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't look out there in the coming years and see a QB and a hybrid QB/RB lined up in the backfield at the same time.   OB loves him that Urban Meyer/Houston Nutt Wildcat style offense . . .  why do you think OB wanted the Utah DC, and the Utah OL coach. 

Talk about laughing a little, this is a bit like saying Bill Belichek just loves those Romeo Crennel style defenses.  He11 Snyder revised and implemented the offensive concepts from Pop Warner and Walter Camp.  He's got a system and he's looking for folks that fit that system, there will be some time necessary to find those folks....don't be surprised if he changes the system again.  He altered from a pass-oriented offense because of the inability to draw the best talent to KSU...lo and behold....everyone copied what he was doing and now he'll have to figure out a new method to draw good enough talent to make the offense work.  The reason he had time the first time around was not becasue of the O, it was because we had a phenomenal D

January 08, 2010, 02:35:50 PM
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I haven't decided yet whether to rate Carson above or below Adam Helm. 

below dude. c'mon.
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