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Let's be done with one-and-done
Lance Stephenson's recruitment further illustrates why NBA's age rule must go

By Pat Forde
ESPN.com


According to Rucker Park lore, Lance Stephenson got his nickname from a courtside announcer at the famed Harlem playground.

After seeing Stephenson precociously hold his own early in his high school career against college and pro players, the announcer christened him "Born Ready."

That moniker became tattooed on Stephenson's biceps and attached to an online reality series starring the Coney Island product. But it has since proven ironic.

Under current NBA draft rules, even Born Ready is deemed unready to play for pay in America.

"I don't think there's any question that if there weren't this age limit, he'd get taken in this draft," said SportsNet New York basketball writer Adam Zagoria, who has followed Stephenson's career for two years. "It's his dream to play in the NBA."

But there is this age limit -- the one that says the NBA cannot employ a player until he is 19, or one year after his original high school class has graduated. That age limit will keep Stephenson from hearing his name called Thursday night when the NBA holds its annual draft.

That age limit has gone from boon to bust for college basketball.

It put Greg Oden and Kevin Durant on campus and in college uniforms for one season, and that was fun. But it also pushed O.J. Mayo and Derrick Rose into situations they seemingly had no interest in, resulting in ongoing scandals at USC and Memphis.

It has forced non-students and pseudo-professionals to feign scholarship and amateurism for one season on campus, cheapening the college experience in general and college basketball specifically.

"The reality is, basketball is their career and their business," said New York Panthers AAU coach Gary Charles, who has coached Stephenson on occasion and seen his rise through the ranks. "In the real world, if someone wants to work at 18, they can do it.

"All of us know which kids are only going to do a year [of college]. If they pass the first semester, they don't really have to do anything in the second semester. I think 98 percent of kids should go to college, but the ones ready to go, let 'em go. Let's just stop the fallacy."

The college game has a better product by having these guys for a season, but the collateral damage is significant. One-and-done college players are capable of more harm than good.

To believe otherwise is to steep yourself in denial.

For instance, you must convince yourself that it's perfectly normal for a player from Washington, D.C., to show up in Manhattan, Kan., with his entire family in tow for a single year (see: Michael Beasley). Or for a player to arrive in Memphis from Philadelphia with his own strength coach added to the coaching staff (see: Tyreke Evans) for a single year. Or for a player to be altruistically guided by an AAU coach who is a former certified NBA agent (see: John Wall).

You must believe that a kid who has been treated as a money-making commodity since seventh grade is suddenly going to resist thousands of dollars of cash and gifts for one pristine year on campus (ask uSC how that allegedly worked out with Mayo). You must believe that a kid who only wants to dribble his way to a paycheck is going to take his college entrance exams seriously, or take them at all (the alleged infraction by Rose at Memphis).

"It's pathetic and ludicrous that we're bringing O.J. Mayo into school," said Ohio University professor David Ridpath, a member of The Drake Group, which promotes an ambitious agenda for college sports reform. "He doesn't want to and shouldn't have to be there.

"The NBA and NFL should take on the responsibility of a developmental system. If a kid wants to try to play [professionally] at 16, who are we supposed to be to prevent him? These kids should be able to pursue a career wherever they want to. If they fail, that's life."

Lance Stephenson does not believe he will fail. Neither does Renardo Sidney, currently on campus at Mississippi State. These guys are in the next wave of potential one-and-done players … but the path to a college uniform is growing more perilous.

Sidney is in the midst of what could be a protracted eligibility process. He moved from Mississippi to Los Angeles to enter the youth basketball fast lane years ago, culminating in a verbal commitment to USC last February. Then, depending on whose story you believe, either Sidney voluntarily de-committed or USC joined UCLA in backing away from Sidney because of concerns about his amateur status.


For Stephenson, the road to college is even more complicated. Despite being a McDonald's All-American, the all-time leading scorer in New York City high school history and by acclamation one of the 15 best seniors in the nation, his recruitment is at a standstill.

There are amateurism concerns: Did Stephenson and his family benefit financially from the "Born Ready" reality show, or from shoe-company sponsorships of his teams? There are legal concerns: Stephenson has a June 29 court date for allegedly fondling a 17-year-old girl at his high school. There are academic concerns: Sources said his transcript has been kept from most, if not all, college recruiters. And there are attitude concerns: Stephenson is combustible on the court and was surprisingly cut from the USA Basketball Under-19 team last summer, at least in part because of his demeanor toward teammates and coaches.

Sources close to the situation said Stephenson's father, Lance Sr., won't return any college's phone calls, and that most schools have stopped calling. Zagoria reported this week that Memphis might be the only school still in the picture, but even that remains unclear.

Europe has become an option for some seeking to circumvent the one year of indentured collegiate servitude. Brandon Jennings spent this past season in Italy and is expected to be a first-round pick this week. Jeremy Tyler of San Diego is planning to skip his senior year of high school and his would-be freshman year of college to play overseas as well.

Both of those players were guided in their decision by the godfather of shoe-company basketball, Sonny Vaccaro. He's reportedly been asked to advise Stephenson as well and has counseled him against going to Europe.

"He's got enough troubles here in Brooklyn," Zagoria said. "I can't see him going to Italy, France or Israel."

So it's possible that Stephenson could remain adrift for a full year, a bona fide talent without a home.

"I've been following this for two years," Zagoria said, "and I'm utterly fascinated to see how it finishes."

It should finish Thursday with Lance Stephenson's going pro.

But it won't.



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Interesting comments on Beasley and K-State.  I also enjoyed the Outside the Lines segment (in the link) with Jay Bilas and Phil Martelli. 

June 22, 2009, 09:14:40 PM
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Couldn't they solve all this by letting kids go back into college if they aren't drafted or signed not unlike MLB?  I just don't get it.  Give the kids a shot to go pro. If they don't land in the first round or don't get drafted at all let them go ahead with college BB. Make them go to school for 2 years.  MLB/College Baseball is 3 years I believe.  Let them declare and if they again don't get drafted or signed let them come back for the last 2 years. Something along those lines anyway.  It shouldn't be rocket science.  While I'm eternally grateful for the Michael Beasley and Bill Walker experience I don't believe kids should be forced to go to college if they could be making millions.  :cyclist:

June 22, 2009, 09:17:29 PM
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Too bad no one ever talks about losers like Darrel Arthur who lost billions of dollars for not going to the league early. Seff is just destroying lives over there

June 22, 2009, 09:24:40 PM
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Too bad no one ever talks about losers like Darrel Arthur who lost billions of dollars for not going to the league early. Seff is just destroying lives over there

Dallas to KS is easier to understand than DC to KS...his example might be believable it it hadn't happened 4 times in 3 yrs (Dom, Ron, Beez, Jam).  So, DC to KS is more typical than Dallas to KS.

June 23, 2009, 03:54:27 PM
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The NBA is a business. If that business wants to set an age requirement for employment, then they should be able to.
The "one-and-doners" can either go to college for a year, go overseas, or just play xbox for a year.

IMO, this is not the NBAs problem.

June 23, 2009, 04:09:40 PM
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Beasley came to Manhattan fair and square. You squawks just can't get over how dominating he was can you? Also, what happened to Lance Stephenson? I thought he was a lock to ku?

June 23, 2009, 04:52:03 PM
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Beasley came to Manhattan fair and square. You squawks just can't get over how dominating he was can you? Also, what happened to Lance Stephenson? I thought he was a lock to ku?

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June 23, 2009, 05:45:15 PM
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So which is it:
ku was crooked because Raef Lafrentz's parents followed him to Lawrence;
or Pat Forde and bentard are racists bastids?

 

June 24, 2009, 09:30:27 AM
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Meanwhile at ku:

-A former DOBO (average salary for Men's D1 DOBO . . . $60K)  with a 5 star recruit son, has or had his $500K plus dollar house in Lawrence on the market, as amazingly . . . now that his son is off making even more money in the NBA than he made at ku, mom and dad are moving on/have moved on as well.  

-2 players on the current ku team are garnering financial support from their relocated mother, who just happens to work at a company owned by one of ku basketball's biggest boosters and BFF of head ku basketball coach Bill Seff.

-Redshirt basketball player(s) just happen to come from wealthy Kansas families.   Great way to funnel money to the team.  Dax note:  I don't know if the one kid from Western Kansas is still on the team, the one whose Dad collects extremely expensive muscle cars.  Dax note:  This has been a favorite practice of ku for years, they used to load up the JV team (when they could have them) based on financial wealth of the kids family first, basketball ability second.   Nothing like getting some rich father of a wannabe all lubed up to start tossing around a bunch of cash than knowing little Johnny might be allowed in the varsity locker room from time to time to hand out the envelopes.

-Sherron Collins had any lingering doubts about jumping early to the NBA pushed aside, as ku boosters rallied to provide him significant financial incentives to stay in Lawrence another year.  

-Word is that multiple parties are working to resolve the current financial impasse between the Henry's and ku . . . more later.





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June 24, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
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Meanwhile at ku:

-A former DOBO (average salary for Men's D1 DOBO . . . $60K)  with a 5 star recruit son, has or had his $500K plus dollar house in Lawrence on the market, as amazingly . . . now that his son is off making even more money in the NBA than he made at ku, mom and dad are moving on/have moved on as well.  

-2 players on the current ku team are garnering financial support from their relocated mother, who just happens to work at a company owned by one of ku basketball's biggest boosters and BFF of head ku basketball coach Bill Seff.

-Redshirt basketball player(s) just happen to come from wealthy Kansas families.   Great way to funnel money to the team.  Dax note:  I don't know if the one kid from Western Kansas is still on the team, the one whose Dad collects extremely expensive muscle cars.  Dax note:  This has been a favorite practice of ku for years, they used to load up the JV team (when they could have them) based on financial wealth of the kids family first, basketball ability second.   Nothing like getting some rich father of a wannabe all lubed up to start tossing around a bunch of cash than knowing little Johnny might be allowed in the varsity locker room from time to time to hand out the envelopes.

-Sherron Collins had any lingering doubts about jumping early to the NBA pushed aside, as ku boosters rallied to provide him significant financial incentives to stay in Lawrence another year.  

-Word is that multiple parties are working to resolve the current financial impasse between the Henry's and ku . . . more later.







My cousin, who lives in Lawrence and is a Free State alum, was talking to me about this on Father's Day. There is going to be some rich kid walk-on at ku next season who is absolutely terrible; he didn't even start at Free State. But, he is going to be on the team because his dad is going to pay the big bucks.  :ku:

June 24, 2009, 10:45:34 AM
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Meanwhile at ku:

-A former DOBO (average salary for Men's D1 DOBO . . . $60K)  with a 5 star recruit son, has or had his $500K plus dollar house in Lawrence on the market, as amazingly . . . now that his son is off making even more money in the NBA than he made at ku, mom and dad are moving on/have moved on as well.  

-2 players on the current ku team are garnering financial support from their relocated mother, who just happens to work at a company owned by one of ku basketball's biggest boosters and BFF of head ku basketball coach Bill Seff.

-Redshirt basketball player(s) just happen to come from wealthy Kansas families.   Great way to funnel money to the team.  Dax note:  I don't know if the one kid from Western Kansas is still on the team, the one whose Dad collects extremely expensive muscle cars.  Dax note:  This has been a favorite practice of ku for years, they used to load up the JV team (when they could have them) based on financial wealth of the kids family first, basketball ability second.   Nothing like getting some rich father of a wannabe all lubed up to start tossing around a bunch of cash than knowing little Johnny might be allowed in the varsity locker room from time to time to hand out the envelopes.

-Sherron Collins had any lingering doubts about jumping early to the NBA pushed aside, as ku boosters rallied to provide him significant financial incentives to stay in Lawrence another year.  

-Word is that multiple parties are working to resolve the current financial impasse between the Henry's and ku . . . more later.







My cousin, who lives in Lawrence and is a Free State alum, was talking to me about this on Father's Day. There is going to be some rich kid walk-on at ku next season who is absolutely terrible; he didn't even start at Free State. But, he is going to be on the team because his dad is going to pay the big bucks.  :ku:

Yep, back in the day their JV program was made up of mediocre high school players, or guys who may have been barely good enough to sit on the bench at an NAIA school or NCAA DIII school . . . BUT . . . they were from rich families with ku ties. 

The JV program wasn't a development program to try and find somebody who might be able to jump to the varsity someday . . . it was to take a bunch of rich white kids and get their sweater vest wearing daddies to pump a bunch of cash through the backdoor into the ku hoops program.


June 24, 2009, 10:58:21 AM
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So which is it:
ku was crooked because Raef Lafrentz's parents followed him to Lawrence;
or Pat Forde and bentard are racists bastids?

 

Don't forget Manning and his truck-driver-turned-college-coach dad.