Regents to release audit of accounts controlled or accessible to FUPJW:

[steve dave]

All these allegations of corruption on the part of Snyder are funny considering that he was simply being paid what he had contracted with K-State to be paid

This is all Prince wants.  Your administration is a JOKE.  Talk all your crap about ku and paying players.  Then tell me seriously that KSU doesn't do that same, especially with the outgoing administration.

The two issues, Prince/Snyder are mutually exclusive from a contract perspective.     Why is it so difficult for you to understand that payments to Snyder were nothing more than his contracted pay per his . . . contract??  The existence of SSM is right there in black and white in his publicly disclosed contracts from years ago, and the amounts of money that were to be paid to the corp. were right there in the contracts that were disclosed publicly years ago.   This isn't difficult stuff.   This is nothing like finding some secret contract sitting around in a file some place.  

There's dumb administration . . . K-State.  There's paying players and things of that ilk . . . ku.

Big Difference.

Didn't Freeman's dad get a job with a very prominent KSU Booster?  

The Govt......which I guess could be considered THE biggest KSU booster

[sonofdaxjones]

Ah in case you missed it hawks . . . and I don't see how you could since you and several others live on this board.  I've railed on this thing pretty hard, and railed on stuff going on at KSU for years.  

Plus it wouldn't surprise me in the least that KSU "bid" on Walker and Beasley, but K-State can't "bid" like ku does, and K-State can't pay like ku pays to keep guys in school so Seff can extend his legacy.   Hell son, the Morris Mongoloids mom works for one of ku's biggest boosters . . . you guys are so brazen about that $hit, the LJWOrld just reports it in the newspaper.   Remember, ku is the only school in history where a basketball coach  has called a news conference to tell everyone he wasn't recruiting a kid anymore because the process had been so corrupt with ku boosters that he knew it would open up a giant can of worms for him and ku.  

The "U" paying taxes??  Since when did Non Profits start paying taxes??  

[sonofdaxjones]

SD . . .  Ron Freeman worked for the Kansas Republican Party . . . it's party of the massive tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that Tardville has concocted. 

[j@yh@wks]

Ah in case you missed it hawks . . . and I don't see how you could since you and several others live on this board.  I've railed on this thing pretty hard, and railed on stuff going on at KSU for years.  

Plus it wouldn't surprise me in the least that KSU "bid" on Walker and Beasley, but K-State can't "bid" like ku does, and K-State can't pay like ku pays to keep guys in school so Seff can extend his legacy.   Hell son, the Morris Mongoloids mom works for one of ku's biggest boosters . . . you guys are so brazen about that $hit, the LJWOrld just reports it in the newspaper.   Remember, ku is the only school in history where a basketball coach  has called a news conference to tell everyone he wasn't recruiting a kid anymore because the process had been so corrupt with ku boosters that he knew it would open up a giant can of worms for him and ku.  

The "U" paying taxes??  Since when did Non Profits start paying taxes??  

So we agree?  Your beloved KSU is no better than ku.   The taxes i'm referring to are the income taxes that were evaded by funneling it through a corporation.  Numerous times people received income themselves and then payment for the same service through the corporation they set up.  If it is determined that the payments are income then there should have been income taxes paid on those payments.  My real worry would be the 13 undocumented payments, where those subject to income taxes as well?  What do you think about what Snyder and co did to Brodrick?

[j@yh@wks]

SD . . .  Ron Freeman worked for the Kansas Republican Party . . . it's party of the massive tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that Tardville has concocted. 

LOL.  Dig more into it SD. 

[steve dave]

SD . . .  Ron Freeman worked for the Kansas Republican Party . . . it's party of the massive tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that Tardville has concocted. 

LOL.  Dig more into it SD. 

meh, not really interested enough to do so 

[j@yh@wks]

SD . . .  Ron Freeman worked for the Kansas Republican Party . . . it's party of the massive tinfoil hat conspiracy theory that Tardville has concocted. 

LOL.  Dig more into it SD. 

meh, not really interested enough to do so 

understood.

[sonofdaxjones]

Ah in case you missed it hawks . . . and I don't see how you could since you and several others live on this board.  I've railed on this thing pretty hard, and railed on stuff going on at KSU for years.  

Plus it wouldn't surprise me in the least that KSU "bid" on Walker and Beasley, but K-State can't "bid" like ku does, and K-State can't pay like ku pays to keep guys in school so Seff can extend his legacy.   Hell son, the Morris Mongoloids mom works for one of ku's biggest boosters . . . you guys are so brazen about that $hit, the LJWOrld just reports it in the newspaper.   Remember, ku is the only school in history where a basketball coach  has called a news conference to tell everyone he wasn't recruiting a kid anymore because the process had been so corrupt with ku boosters that he knew it would open up a giant can of worms for him and ku.  

The "U" paying taxes??  Since when did Non Profits start paying taxes??  

So we agree?  Your beloved KSU is no better than ku.   The taxes i'm referring to are the income taxes that were evaded by funneling it through a corporation.  Numerous times people received income themselves and then payment for the same service through the corporation they set up.  If it is determined that the payments are income then there should have been income taxes paid on those payments.  My real worry would be the 13 undocumented payments, where those subject to income taxes as well?  What do you think about what Snyder and co did to Brodrick?

So ah . . . you're saying that the Corporation didn't file any taxes??  Snyder is on the record in an interview saying that his corporation filed its taxes as it should, claimed the income as it should and paid the appropriate taxes as it should.    

The undocumented payments were undocumented by K-State,  you, nor me, nor anyone knows if the people who received those payments documented them on their taxes.  That doesn't have anything to do with K-State.

In terms of our agreement . . . no, not really.   I'll take my direct sources as to what ku is up to over the word of some angry ku fanboy on ksufans.com.  Afterall, the ku basketball program has the most extensive history of corruption and probation in NCAA Division One Basketball.  

[j@yh@wks]

Remember, ku is the only school in history where a basketball coach  has called a news conference to tell everyone he wasn't recruiting a kid anymore because the process had been so corrupt with ku boosters that he knew it would open up a giant can of worms for him and ku.  

so? Good for him. 

[j@yh@wks]

So ah . . . you're saying that the Corporation didn't file any taxes??  Snyder is on the record in an interview saying that his corporation filed its taxes as it should, claimed the income as it should and paid the appropriate taxes as it should.    

The undocumented payments were undocumented by K-State,  you, nor me, nor anyone knows if the people who received those payments documented them on their taxes.  That doesn't have anything to do with K-State.

Actually if those payments are determined by the IRS to be income the school does have to pay income taxes on those payments, same as a paycheck.  Same with those 13 payments.  I see you are avoiding the Smith question though.

[j@yh@wks]

 Afterall, the ku basketball program has the most extensive history of corruption and probation in NCAA Division One Basketball.  

i love the way you guys just narrow things down to match your own thoughts on yourselves.  Like how your football program only existed from 1990 - 2003 and then again in 2009.  Your school has the EXACT same amount of major violations as ku.  Exact same amount.  Just shows how badly managed your school is, at least cheat in a revenue producing sport. 

[steve dave]

 Afterall, the ku basketball program has the most extensive history of corruption and probation in NCAA Division One Basketball.  

i love the way you guys just narrow things down to match your own thoughts on yourselves.  Like how your football program only existed from 1990 - 2003 and then again in 2009.  Your school has the EXACT same amount of major violations as ku.  Exact same amount.  Just shows how badly managed your school is, at least cheat in a revenue producing sport. 

I don't think any of that is true.  We embrace whole heartedly how bad we used to be.  Makes what we did seem even more amazing.  It wouldn't be a huge deal if Florida did what we did in that span.  Our violations are primarily in boring sports as you point out.  Makes me feel clean since I don't care about them.  And, finally, this whole thread is about how badly managed our school was, so it's not like we're ignoring that or trying to hide it in any way.

[sonofdaxjones]

Remember, ku is the only school in history where a basketball coach  has called a news conference to tell everyone he wasn't recruiting a kid anymore because the process had been so corrupt with ku boosters that he knew it would open up a giant can of worms for him and ku.  

so? Good for him.  

The same coach "forgot" about the rules that boosters can't give gifts to players . . . so how much other dadgum stuff did he "forget"? That was just one situation where he knew he had to back out of the deal given the publicity it was receiving.

What does Broderick Smith have to do with anything in this thread??  The kid is so "bothered" by the situation he's going to pay his way for awhile . . . BFD, he can choose to go to another school if he wants to, nothing is stopping him.

On the payments . . . so tell me again how K-State is going to have to pay taxes on those??  Don't you really mean that K-State may have to pay what should have been the withholding's??  K-State is never going to have to pay any income tax on that money, and the withholding's are now an issue between the recipient and the IRS.

I always like how you guys always like to point out how K-State has the exact same amount of major infractions as ku.   Here's the difference chief, a major sport at K-State hasn't been sanctioned as in loss of revenue, TV appearances, scholarships or post season appearances in 32 years.   Over that same amount of time, ku football and basketball has lost scholarships etc. etc. on 4 separate occasions, and ku basketball has been placed on probation more times than any other Division 1 basketball program.  

[MadCat]

 Afterall, the ku basketball program has the most extensive history of corruption and probation in NCAA Division One Basketball.  

i love the way you guys just narrow things down to match your own thoughts on yourselves.  Like how your football program only existed from 1990 - 2003 and then again in 2009.  Your school has the EXACT same amount of major violations as ku.  Exact same amount.  Just shows how badly managed your school is, at least cheat in a revenue producing sport. 

I don't think any of that is true.  We embrace whole heartedly how bad we used to be.  Makes what we did seem even more amazing.  It wouldn't be a huge deal if Florida did what we did in that span.  Our violations are primarily in boring sports as you point out.  Makes me feel clean since I don't care about them.  And, finally, this whole thread is about how badly managed our school was, so it's not like we're ignoring that or trying to hide it in any way.

Were they Olympic sports?  There's probably more honor in cheating at Olympic sports.

[j@yh@wks]

Remember, ku is the only school in history where a basketball coach  has called a news conference to tell everyone he wasn't recruiting a kid anymore because the process had been so corrupt with ku boosters that he knew it would open up a giant can of worms for him and ku.  

so? Good for him. 

The same coach "forgot" about the rules that boosters can't give gifts to players . . . so how much other dadgum stuff did he "forget"? That was just one situation where he knew he had to back out of the deal given the publicity it was receiving.

What does Broderick Smith have to do with anything in this thread??  The kid is so "bothered" by the situation he's going to pay his way for awhile . . . BFD, he can choose to go to another school if he wants to, nothing is stopping him.

On the payments . . . so tell me again how K-State is going to have to pay taxes on those??  Don't you really mean that K-State may have to pay what should have been the withholding's??  K-State is never going to have to pay any income tax on that money.  That's really an issue between the recipient of the payments and the IRS.  

I always like how you guys always like to point out how K-State has the exact same amount of major infractions as ku.   Here's the difference chief, a major sport at K-State hasn't been sanctioned as in loss of revenue, TV appearances, scholarships or post season appearances in 32 years.   Over that same amount of time, ku football and basketball has lost scholarships etc. etc. on 4 separate occasions, and ku basketball has been placed on probation more times than any other Division 1 basketball program.  

This is what i'm talking about here SD.  See how he narrows it down to only "major sports".  Just so he doesn't have to admit to being an alum of a dirty college that's just as dirty as ku.  Per you other crap about taxes, maybe this will help

But auditors found that roughly 5 percent of the payments made from the account (the athletic travel fund) — about $100,000 each year since 2005 — were not for travel, but for contract payments to companies linked to K-State officials, such as Snyder’s SSM Inc., Weiser’s The Weiser Way and Krause’s Horizon Ranch.

“It is not clear why contract payments would be made through the … account as they do not relate to travel,” the audit noted. “As with other payments to employees’ personal corporations, the supporting documentation was minimal.”

The payments, auditors said, could cause the university tax problems.

“Many universities do pay their coaches for appearances and endorsements through a contract with the coach’s personal corporation,” auditors wrote. “However, it is our understanding that the taxing authorities do not look favorably on those situations if it is the athletics department or the university who is arranging for/negotiating the appearances and the endorsements on behalf of the coach, such as is the situation at K-State.”

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, I narrow it down to major sports hawks . . . nobody give a F_ck if the K-State track coach gave a trackster a few hundred extra bucks and may have contacted some potential recruits at the wrong time in 1990, or the women's basketball coach may have paid some players to babysit and work at a camp. (all self reported violations that resulted in the termination of those coaches as employees of the KSU IAC).    

But when one sport at one school gets put on probation more times than any other single school in that sport . . . well, if you can't figure that out, you're just dumb.   Hey, the Big 12 is home to the most penalized football and basketball programs in NCAA history.   Plus when is the last time ku fired a coach that got into trouble with the NCAA??   Larry Brown bailed . . . he wouldn't have been fired.  Roy Williams bailed . . . he wouldn't have been fired.   In the 1970's when ku basketball got put on probation Ted Owens wasn't fired, when the track team got put on probation Bob Timmons wasn't fired.   When K-State football got put on probation in the 1970's the entire coaching staff got fired.  In fact the last time K-State DID NOT fire a coaching staff directly involved in NCAA penalties was Tex Winter and staff in 1955.  

In terms of SOME of the payments.   The tax implications are likely revolving around payments by a non profit to an entity involved in a for profit endeavor, while that entity is under the employee of the non profit.   In this case, the IRS will likely slap K-State Intercollegiate Athletic Council Inc.  on the wrist and tell them to quit collecting money for things like a football camp where the coach has only contracted with the KSU IAC to use the KSU IAC facilities.  The camps themselves are a for profit enterprise for the respective coach.   See how I understand these things??

[WillieWannabe]

j@yh@wks = Tully Corcoran 

[WavetheWheat]

In terms of SOME of the payments.   The tax implications are likely revolving around payments by a non profit to an entity involved in a for profit endeavor, while that entity is under the employee of the non profit.   In this case, the IRS will likely slap K-State Intercollegiate Athletic Council Inc.  on the wrist and tell them to quit collecting money for things like a football camp where the coach has only contracted with the KSU IAC to use the KSU IAC facilities.  The camps themselves are a for profit enterprise for the respective coach.   See how I understand these things??

So what, if any, is the fallout from this audit?

[Legore]

So ah . . . you're saying that the Corporation didn't file any taxes??  Snyder is on the record in an interview saying that his corporation filed its taxes as it should, claimed the income as it should and paid the appropriate taxes as it should.    

The undocumented payments were undocumented by K-State,  you, nor me, nor anyone knows if the people who received those payments documented them on their taxes.  That doesn't have anything to do with K-State.

Actually if those payments are determined by the IRS to be income the school does have to pay income taxes on those payments, same as a paycheck.  Same with those 13 payments.  I see you are avoiding the Smith question though.

This really isn't accurate.   This money paid to the corporation is taxable to the corporation.   If it was treated as normal salary then KSU would be responsible for witholding income and payroll taxes and paying their half of the payroll taxes.   The way it was arranged the corp was an independent contractor and therefore none of this was required to be done.  Apparently per the audit these types of arrangments are common at colleges but the IRS is starting to question them and force people to pay this out as salary rather then to these corporations.  

Even if the IRS decides the arrangement is invalid then there would be a small fine for not witholding taxes properly (the taxpayer is still responsible for paying the taxes) and KSU would be liable for their portion of payroll taxes.  But these are highly paid people who would be over and above their fica bases with ease from their base salary alone.   That would mean KSU's liablity would only be half of the medicare tax so 1.45% of all the payments made to these corporations.  The report said $845,000 of these payments were made so we're only talking about 12K in back taxes with penalties and everything for all this it would be less then 20k.  It's a compliance issue but we're not talking about large amounts of unpaid taxes. 

[steve dave]

In terms of SOME of the payments.   The tax implications are likely revolving around payments by a non profit to an entity involved in a for profit endeavor, while that entity is under the employee of the non profit.   In this case, the IRS will likely slap K-State Intercollegiate Athletic Council Inc.  on the wrist and tell them to quit collecting money for things like a football camp where the coach has only contracted with the KSU IAC to use the KSU IAC facilities.  The camps themselves are a for profit enterprise for the respective coach.   See how I understand these things??

So what, if any, is the fallout from this audit?

steve dave is mad about the university's use of their money

[j@yh@wks]

So ah . . . you're saying that the Corporation didn't file any taxes??  Snyder is on the record in an interview saying that his corporation filed its taxes as it should, claimed the income as it should and paid the appropriate taxes as it should.    

The undocumented payments were undocumented by K-State,  you, nor me, nor anyone knows if the people who received those payments documented them on their taxes.  That doesn't have anything to do with K-State.

Actually if those payments are determined by the IRS to be income the school does have to pay income taxes on those payments, same as a paycheck.  Same with those 13 payments.  I see you are avoiding the Smith question though.

This really isn't accurate.   This money paid to the corporation is taxable to the corporation.   If it was treated as normal salary then KSU would be responsible for witholding income and payroll taxes and paying their half of the payroll taxes.   The way it was arranged the corp was an independent contractor and therefore none of this was required to be done.  Apparently per the audit these types of arrangments are common at colleges but the IRS is starting to question them and force people to pay this out as salary rather then to these corporations.  

Even if the IRS decides the arrangement is invalid then there would be a small fine for not witholding taxes properly (the taxpayer is still responsible for paying the taxes) and KSU would be liable for their portion of payroll taxes.  But these are highly paid people who would be over and above their fica bases with ease from their base salary alone.   That would mean KSU's liablity would only be half of the medicare tax so 1.45% of all the payments made to these corporations.  The report said $845,000 of these payments were made so we're only talking about 12K in back taxes with penalties and everything for all this it would be less then 20k.  It's a compliance issue but we're not talking about large amounts of unpaid taxes. 

thanks for a good post.  It doesn't seem like a big issue,the way you explained it, but the "whole" looks pretty bad.  Do you see any NCAA investigations coming from this audit? 

[j@yh@wks]

Yeah, I narrow it down to major sports hawks . . . nobody give a F_ck if the K-State track coach gave a trackster a few hundred extra bucks and may have contacted some potential recruits at the wrong time in 1990, or the women's basketball coach may have paid some players to babysit and work at a camp. (all self reported violations that resulted in the termination of those coaches as employees of the KSU IAC).    

But when one sport at one school gets put on probation more times than any other single school in that sport . . . well, if you can't figure that out, you're just dumb.   Hey, the Big 12 is home to the most penalized football and basketball programs in NCAA history.   Plus when is the last time ku fired a coach that got into trouble with the NCAA??   Larry Brown bailed . . . he wouldn't have been fired.  Roy Williams bailed . . . he wouldn't have been fired.   In the 1970's when ku basketball got put on probation Ted Owens wasn't fired, when the track team got put on probation Bob Timmons wasn't fired.   When K-State football got put on probation in the 1970's the entire coaching staff got fired.  In fact the last time K-State DID NOT fire a coaching staff directly involved in NCAA penalties was Tex Winter and staff in 1955.  

In terms of SOME of the payments.   The tax implications are likely revolving around payments by a non profit to an entity involved in a for profit endeavor, while that entity is under the employee of the non profit.   In this case, the IRS will likely slap K-State Intercollegiate Athletic Council Inc.  on the wrist and tell them to quit collecting money for things like a football camp where the coach has only contracted with the KSU IAC to use the KSU IAC facilities.  The camps themselves are a for profit enterprise for the respective coach.   See how I understand these things??

how long did it take you to google all that.

[hillwalking03]

Very interesting to find out about all this stuff going on behind the scenes. Makes you realize there are hardly any good ethical guys running things anymore. But if you kutards think this type of thing doesn't go on at uk, you are more retarded than i thought. It may not be run by as big of idiots as K-state, but i would bet money there are some very interesting contracts at uk.... i.e. Free Frosties at Wendy's for Mangino, Free Rogaine at Walgreens for Self, etc...

JFC, I go to Vegas for one weekend and this crap goes down?  Seriously, I'm scared to see what the report on ku releases after reading through that.  Hopefully we were watching the money better than the test takers.  Chancellor Boob was an epic  idiot, so this scenario being repeated is entirely possible.

Steve Dave, I'm scared.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, I narrow it down to major sports hawks . . . nobody give a F_ck if the K-State track coach gave a trackster a few hundred extra bucks and may have contacted some potential recruits at the wrong time in 1990, or the women's basketball coach may have paid some players to babysit and work at a camp. (all self reported violations that resulted in the termination of those coaches as employees of the KSU IAC).    

But when one sport at one school gets put on probation more times than any other single school in that sport . . . well, if you can't figure that out, you're just dumb.   Hey, the Big 12 is home to the most penalized football and basketball programs in NCAA history.   Plus when is the last time ku fired a coach that got into trouble with the NCAA??   Larry Brown bailed . . . he wouldn't have been fired.  Roy Williams bailed . . . he wouldn't have been fired.   In the 1970's when ku basketball got put on probation Ted Owens wasn't fired, when the track team got put on probation Bob Timmons wasn't fired.   When K-State football got put on probation in the 1970's the entire coaching staff got fired.  In fact the last time K-State DID NOT fire a coaching staff directly involved in NCAA penalties was Tex Winter and staff in 1955.  

In terms of SOME of the payments.   The tax implications are likely revolving around payments by a non profit to an entity involved in a for profit endeavor, while that entity is under the employee of the non profit.   In this case, the IRS will likely slap K-State Intercollegiate Athletic Council Inc.  on the wrist and tell them to quit collecting money for things like a football camp where the coach has only contracted with the KSU IAC to use the KSU IAC facilities.  The camps themselves are a for profit enterprise for the respective coach.   See how I understand these things??

how long did it take you to google all that.

Didn't have to Google . . . I knew that stuff, you're not the first Validator that these issues have come up with.

[sonofdaxjones]

Very interesting to find out about all this stuff going on behind the scenes. Makes you realize there are hardly any good ethical guys running things anymore. But if you kutards think this type of thing doesn't go on at uk, you are more retarded than i thought. It may not be run by as big of idiots as K-state, but i would bet money there are some very interesting contracts at uk.... i.e. Free Frosties at Wendy's for Mangino, Free Rogaine at Walgreens for Self, etc...

JFC, I go to Vegas for one weekend and this crap goes down?  Seriously, I'm scared to see what the report on ku releases after reading through that.  Hopefully we were watching the money better than the test takers.  Chancellor Boob was an epic  idiot, so this scenario being repeated is entirely possible.

Steve Dave, I'm scared.

I would't worry, Bob was a major racist and not very smart.  But he didn't have the power at ku, that Wefald had at K-State . . . and thus couldn't consolidate power like Wefald did with his little junta of good old boys. 

 

[hillwalking03]

Very interesting to find out about all this stuff going on behind the scenes. Makes you realize there are hardly any good ethical guys running things anymore. But if you kutards think this type of thing doesn't go on at uk, you are more retarded than i thought. It may not be run by as big of idiots as K-state, but i would bet money there are some very interesting contracts at uk.... i.e. Free Frosties at Wendy's for Mangino, Free Rogaine at Walgreens for Self, etc...

JFC, I go to Vegas for one weekend and this crap goes down?  Seriously, I'm scared to see what the report on ku releases after reading through that.  Hopefully we were watching the money better than the test takers.  Chancellor Boob was an epic  idiot, so this scenario being repeated is entirely possible.

Steve Dave, I'm scared.

I would't worry, Bob was a major racist and not very smart.  But he didn't have the power at ku, that Wefald had at K-State . . . and thus couldn't consolidate power like Wefald did with his little junta of good old boys. 

 

Still, we've had much more turnover in our AD over the course of his tenure than what you did.  Not to mention a couple of Provosts, and some of the lawsuits for wrongful termination, discrimination....  I really hope our release isn't a blip on the radar.

[Brewcrew]

 Afterall, the ku basketball program has the most extensive history of corruption and probation in NCAA Division One Basketball.  

i love the way you guys just narrow things down to match your own thoughts on yourselves.  Like how your football program only existed from 1990 - 2003 and then again in 2009.  Your school has the EXACT same amount of major violations as ku.  Exact same amount.  Just shows how badly managed your school is, at least cheat in a revenue producing sport. 

I don't think any of that is true.  We embrace whole heartedly how bad we used to be.  Makes what we did seem even more amazing.  It wouldn't be a huge deal if Florida did what we did in that span.  Our violations are primarily in boring sports as you point out.  Makes me feel clean since I don't care about them.  And, finally, this whole thread is about how badly managed our school was, so it's not like we're ignoring that or trying to hide it in any way.

Nail on the head....ksu truly small potatos. 

[steve dave]

ksu truly small potatos. 

Fat guy that works at a chain steak house says

[sonofdaxjones]

ksu truly small potatos. 

Fat guy that works at a chain steak house says

People with low self esteem tend to lash out like that SD.   

[Ghost of Stan Parrish]

What I don't understand is why any ku fan cares about this crap.   

Probably the Whitlock article got them all excited.  Really, though, it's ridiculously small stuff.  Whatevs...