It's Floyd!

[catzacker]

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ys-floyd051209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[yosh]

Outstanding!

[Pete]

Now you are going to &@#%ing tell me there is no such thing as Chanukah Harry...

Tim, this is just sad.

[Pett]

The $ ruined the trifecta of beas, walker, & mayo in manhattan.

[KCcat28]

The $ ruined the trifecta of beas, walker, & mayo in manhattan.

QFT   

[PoetWarrior]

USC is incredible.

[Pete]

USC is incredible.

I know. God, I admire them.

[SUPERKSUFAN]

 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

USC is incredible.

I know. God, I admire them.

Watch them get out of this one as well.

[pwrcat1]

Amazing.   

[omahawildcat]

So do you think the school will punish the womens basketball team to show the NCAA that they have handled the situation?

[Pete]

So do you think the school will punish the womens basketball team to show the NCAA that they have handled the situation?

Gold.

[pissclams]

http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=2320.0

^last post, page 1 tia. 

[JTKSU]

So do you think the school will punish the womens basketball team to show the NCAA that they have handled the situation?

That's exactly what uk would, and has, done.

[jeffy]

So do you think the school will punish the womens basketball team to show the NCAA that they have handled the situation?

That's exactly what uk would, and has, done.

Congrats, Sherlock Hemlock.... the world's greatest detective!

[JTKSU]

So do you think the school will punish the womens basketball team to show the NCAA that they have handled the situation?

That's exactly what uk would, and has, done.

Congrats, Sherlock Hemlock.... the world's greatest detective!

Wow, you think that one up all by yourself?

[Pete]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

[doom]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

There are still ways to verify if the statements are true.  If the NCAA could find that money was withdrawn from accounts tied to Floyd around the times the money was given, etc. They can also check booster accounts that might have met with Floyd around that time. 

[JTKSU]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

There are still ways to verify if the statements are true.  If the NCAA could find that money was withdrawn from accounts tied to Floyd around the times the money was given, etc. They can also check booster accounts that might have met with Floyd around that time. 

I don't see them getting subpoenas for every booster's financial records.  And a multi-millionaire like Floyd withdrawing a grand around the time that the alleged  infraction occurred would feed the fire, but I don't think it would be anywhere near conclusive evidence.  They had much more tangible evidence against Reggie Bush and were unable to make anything stick, I expect this situation to be similar.

[Dick Knewheizel]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

There are still ways to verify if the statements are true.  If the NCAA could find that money was withdrawn from accounts tied to Floyd around the times the money was given, etc. They can also check booster accounts that might have met with Floyd around that time. 

I don't see them getting subpoenas for every booster's financial records.  And a multi-millionaire like Floyd withdrawing a grand around the time that the alleged  infraction occurred would feed the fire, but I don't think it would be anywhere near conclusive evidence.  They had much more tangible evidence against Reggie Bush and were unable to make anything stick, I expect this situation to be similar.

If they can't find SOMETHING on this dirtbag or anyone at USC only two things can be true:  1) the NCAA is so grossly incompetant it deserves to be disbanded for disgusting stupidity, or 2) USC is lining the pockets of NCAA staff (aka the "Perkins Method")

A deaf dumb and blind transvestite could figure out when a dirt poor high school kid gets a little extra folding money, let alone thousands of dollars.

[JTKSU]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

There are still ways to verify if the statements are true.  If the NCAA could find that money was withdrawn from accounts tied to Floyd around the times the money was given, etc. They can also check booster accounts that might have met with Floyd around that time. 

I don't see them getting subpoenas for every booster's financial records.  And a multi-millionaire like Floyd withdrawing a grand around the time that the alleged  infraction occurred would feed the fire, but I don't think it would be anywhere near conclusive evidence.  They had much more tangible evidence against Reggie Bush and were unable to make anything stick, I expect this situation to be similar.

If they can't find SOMETHING on this dirtbag or anyone at USC only two things can be true:  1) the NCAA is so grossly incompetant it deserves to be disbanded for disgusting stupidity, or 2) USC is lining the pockets of NCAA staff (aka the "Perkins Method")

A deaf dumb and blind transvestite could figure out when a dirt poor high school kid gets a little extra folding money, let alone thousands of dollars.

Knowing that illegal crap is going on is easy enough, building a strong enough case to make the accusations stick is an entirely different matter.

[yosh]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

There are still ways to verify if the statements are true.  If the NCAA could find that money was withdrawn from accounts tied to Floyd around the times the money was given, etc. They can also check booster accounts that might have met with Floyd around that time. 

I don't see them getting subpoenas for every booster's financial records.  And a multi-millionaire like Floyd withdrawing a grand around the time that the alleged  infraction occurred would feed the fire, but I don't think it would be anywhere near conclusive evidence.  They had much more tangible evidence against Reggie Bush and were unable to make anything stick, I expect this situation to be similar.

If they can't find SOMETHING on this dirtbag or anyone at USC only two things can be true:  1) the NCAA is so grossly incompetant it deserves to be disbanded for disgusting stupidity, or 2) USC is lining the pockets of NCAA staff (aka the "Perkins Method")

A deaf dumb and blind transvestite could figure out when a dirt poor high school kid gets a little extra folding money, let alone thousands of dollars.

Knowing that illegal crap is going on is easy enough, building a strong enough case to make the accusations stick is an entirely different matter.

Pepperdine will pay for USC's lack of ethics.

   <<----Asbury

[sonofdaxjones]

No, no . . . UC-Riverside is headed for the Death Penalty because of those bastages at USC.

[~WabashRoll~]

Seriously, how much of an idiot is Floyd?  Personally handing out a white envelope full of cash to buy a player?

Credit where credit is due, you've got to admire a guy like Bill Self who goes about things the right way.  If you're going to pay out a large sum of money to a recruit or a player, at least make sure it's properly laundered and for Pete's sake be smart enough to filter the money through a couple intermediaries before it gets to the handlers.

Hypothetically speaking of course.  If you were a prominent, high profile basketball coach, and you had a player, let's call him Merron Follins.  And you were to try and prevent this player from declaring for the NBA draft.  Hypothetically, it would be far more sensible to use say a prominent Lawrence real estate developer and major ku booster that happens to have seats a few rows behind you on the bench to handle the delivery of money to said player's handler than to personally do it yourself and take the chance of getting caught.

Again, hypothetically speaking.   

[steve dave]

So, do they fire Floyd?  If so, can we hire him?  There's obviously room where Underwood used to sit.

[Dick Knewheizel]

Nothing is going to happen here.  Johnson never SAW Floyd give Guillroy anything.  Unless they get Guillroy to talk, there is nothing to this.

There are still ways to verify if the statements are true.  If the NCAA could find that money was withdrawn from accounts tied to Floyd around the times the money was given, etc. They can also check booster accounts that might have met with Floyd around that time. 

I don't see them getting subpoenas for every booster's financial records.  And a multi-millionaire like Floyd withdrawing a grand around the time that the alleged  infraction occurred would feed the fire, but I don't think it would be anywhere near conclusive evidence.  They had much more tangible evidence against Reggie Bush and were unable to make anything stick, I expect this situation to be similar.

If they can't find SOMETHING on this dirtbag or anyone at USC only two things can be true:  1) the NCAA is so grossly incompetant it deserves to be disbanded for disgusting stupidity, or 2) USC is lining the pockets of NCAA staff (aka the "Perkins Method")

A deaf dumb and blind transvestite could figure out when a dirt poor high school kid gets a little extra folding money, let alone thousands of dollars.

Knowing that illegal crap is going on is easy enough, building a strong enough case to make the accusations stick is an entirely different matter.

I think you're confusing a criminal investigation with a NCAA investigation.  There is no "beyond a reasonable doubt" here.  The burden of proof isn't that high.  Something stinks with this whole USC thing...

[jeffy]

Seriously, how much of an idiot is Floyd?  Personally handing out a white envelope full of cash to buy a player?

Credit where credit is due, you can't help but admire a guy like Bill Self who goes about things the right way.  If you're going to pay out a large sum of money to a recruit or a player, at least make sure it's properly laundered and for Pete's sake be smart enough to filter the money through a couple intermediaries before it gets to the handlers.

Hypothetically speaking of course.  If you were a prominent, high profile basketball coach, and you had a player, let's call him Merron Follins.  And you were to try and prevent this player from declaring for the NBA draft.  It would be far more sensible to use say a prominent Lawrence real estate developer and major ku booster to handle the delivery of money to said player's handler than to personally do it yourself and take the chance of getting caught.

Again, hypothetically speaking.   

Excellent Post!

[ksu_FAN]

Here's the deal though; USC basketball isn't that good and really hasn't been, so this is a great opportunity for the NCAA. 

USC football, that's become another story and they aren't as touchable. 

But the NCAA could easily take a 'ship or two from USC basketball and it would be not biggee.  Good chance to 'take a stand' vs one of the big boys, b/c its one of their secondary programs.

[pissclams]

Here's the deal though; USC basketball isn't that good and really hasn't been, so this is a great opportunity for the NCAA. 

USC football, that's become another story and they aren't as touchable. 
But the NCAA could easily take a 'ship or two from USC basketball and it would be not biggee.  Good chance to 'take a stand' vs one of the big boys, b/c its one of their secondary programs.

i never understood the arguement that the NCAA won't touch one of the big programs in a particular sport.  how does it hurt them to penalize USC?  you're talking about a multibillion dollar corporation who's entire revenue stream is built on its image.

[ksu_FAN]

Here's the deal though; USC basketball isn't that good and really hasn't been, so this is a great opportunity for the NCAA. 

USC football, that's become another story and they aren't as touchable. 
But the NCAA could easily take a 'ship or two from USC basketball and it would be not biggee.  Good chance to 'take a stand' vs one of the big boys, b/c its one of their secondary programs.

i never understood the arguement that the NCAA won't touch one of the big programs in a particular sport.  how does it hurt them to penalize USC?  you're talking about a multibillion dollar corporation who's entire revenue stream is built on its image.

I don't know how much it is true, but it seems that way. 

What was the last bigtime program that really took a hit?