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May 05, 2009, 09:41:27 AM
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3 more points per game . . . over the course of an entire NBA season.


I would hope a person at his position would have more points then the guards. 
According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

May 05, 2009, 09:45:21 AM
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7 of the top 10 playoff scoring leaders . . . guards.




May 05, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
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7 of the top 10 playoff scoring leaders . . . guards.




Guards saving it up during the season?
According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

May 05, 2009, 09:58:12 AM
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7 of the top 10 playoff scoring leaders . . . guards.




Guards saving it up during the season?

I guess not . . . 5 of the top 10 scoring leaders during the regular season . . . guards.


May 05, 2009, 10:18:40 AM
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3 more points per game . . . over the course of an entire NBA season.



Four more ppg while Chalmers plays eight more minutes than Beas.

Nice.

May 05, 2009, 12:11:07 PM
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when they went into halftime of game 6 the sideline reporter asked how much it helped to have guys like Anthony and Beasley step up.  seemed like Wade got a little perturbed when he heard Beasley's name and went on to give props to Anthony and Jones, but no mention of the guy who almost had a double-double at the half.  almost seems like both DWade and ES have a problem with BEasy.  can't really think of a team i'd like Mike to go to, maybe Portland or Houston, i dunno...

noticed that too... you forgot pat riley... the ultimate beasley hater

their beat writer ira winderman has been dropping hints for months... i think he's moved over the sumer for sure


I'm not sure I buy this...

Riley talked negative about Mike pre-draft...my take is it was a ploy to encourage the Bulls to go with Rose. Pre-draft comments to reporters are not to be trusted...

May 05, 2009, 12:42:40 PM
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Pretty sure Chalmers starts because of his defense (top 5 in the NBA in steals), but don't let that get in the way of your circle jerk, 'Pad.

May 05, 2009, 12:51:53 PM
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Pointing out the facts on scoring (you see that's what the discussion with jayhawks was about . . . but I know you can't comprehend $hit Bentard) has something to do with Defense and a circle jerk??




May 05, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
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Pointing out the facts on scoring (you see that's what the discussion with jayhawks was about . . . but I know you can't comprehend $hit Bentard) has something to do with Defense and a circle jerk??

always so angry
According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

May 05, 2009, 01:38:33 PM
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B-EZ played significantly better defense than chalm's in the playoffs.  Chalm's got worked like a blow up doll at a frat house.

May 05, 2009, 02:20:27 PM
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B-EZ played significantly better defense than chalm's in the playoffs.  Chalm's got worked like a blow up doll at a frat house.




The next time you contribute something of value with be the first. 



 :flush:

Apparently you weren't watching.  You can deny it all you want, even someone watching basketball for the first time could see the disparity between the two defensive performances.  Now quip away napoleon.

May 05, 2009, 02:27:13 PM
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Pointing out the facts on scoring (you see that's what the discussion with jayhawks was about . . . but I know you can't comprehend $hit Bentard) has something to do with Defense and a circle jerk??

always so angry

Not angry . . . just tired of his tardness chiming in on every little thing.


May 05, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
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Pointing out the facts on scoring (you see that's what the discussion with jayhawks was about . . . but I know you can't comprehend $hit Bentard) has something to do with Defense and a circle jerk??

always so angry

Not angry . . . just tired of his tardness chiming in on every little thing.


I see.  I do not watch the NBA so forgive my lack of knowledge.  Just reading it sounds like Mario had a pretty decent year for what was expected of him.  Sounds like Beas had a great year. Bottom line they are both sitting at home right now cause of d-wade giving up. (from what JT The Brick tells me)
According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

May 05, 2009, 04:08:56 PM
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B-EZ played significantly better defense than chalm's in the playoffs.  Chalm's got worked like a blow up doll at a frat house.




The next time you contribute something of value with be the first. 



 :flush:

Apparently you weren't watching.  You can deny it all you want, even someone watching basketball for the first time could see the disparity between the two defensive performances.  Now quip away napoleon.



Steals per game (playoffs):


Chalmers - 2.9 spg

Beasley - 0.3 spg


 :lol:

May 05, 2009, 04:26:08 PM
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B-EZ played significantly better defense than chalm's in the playoffs.  Chalm's got worked like a blow up doll at a frat house.




The next time you contribute something of value with be the first. 



 :flush:

Apparently you weren't watching.  You can deny it all you want, even someone watching basketball for the first time could see the disparity between the two defensive performances.  Now quip away napoleon.



Steals per game (playoffs):


Chalmers - 2.9 spg

Beasley - 0.3 spg


 :lol:


Keep holding on to that steals angle like it's a pacifier and keep ignoring all the other stats.  Same ol' BMW. 

May 05, 2009, 04:46:04 PM
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Playoffs:

B-EZ - 25.4 min - 5.9 def reb - .29 stl - 1.00 blk - 2.00 pf

Chalm's - 33.0 min - 1.9 def reb - 2.86 stl - .14 blk - 3.00 pf

Yup, you got me, he had more steals, too bad he played crap defense.


 :bootyshake:


May 05, 2009, 05:30:37 PM
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Thanks for pointing out that big men get more blocks and rebounds than point guards.  First of all, it's not disputable that Mario Chalmers starts because of his defense.  It's not disputable that Mario Chalmers is top 5 in the NBA in steals as a rookie.  Second, it's widely documented that the reason Michael Beasley didn't start for the Heat was because of his lack of defense.  See it for yourself.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/43164242.html?page=2&c=y

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Only nine months ago, shortly after Miami took him on draft night, Beasley made his NBA summer league debut without knowing anything about defense at the pro level. Offense came easily, since that's all he'd ever known. But to get into the rotation — especially in Miami, where defense is the top priority — he needed to learn how to defend.
"I needed to learn a lot," Beasley acknowledged.

So he worked and studied, then worked and studied some more. And soon, the rest of the NBA started taking notice in what Miami had in Beasley.

"That's part of learning the game, getting familiar with the league," Pistons coach Michael Curry said. "You knew right away this kid was going to be a scorer in this league and a rebounder. He was going to do those two things and he does them at a high level. I think defensively, in understanding the NBA game, he's gotten much better."

As Beasley started figuring out the defense, Spoelstra's confidence in him grew. With that came more playing time, and with that came even more respect from teammates in the locker room.



I rest my case.

May 05, 2009, 05:41:18 PM
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Thanks for posting an article that says his defense has improved greatly.  Chalm's starts over a guy who wouldn't be a bench player for the clippers, whatever excuse spo gives is irrelevant to most observers.

You've rested my case as well.  Thanks dude.

May 05, 2009, 05:50:46 PM
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Thanks for posting an article that says his defense has improved greatly.  Chalm's starts over a guy who wouldn't be a bench player for the clippers, whatever excuse spo gives is irrelevant to most observers.

You've rested my case as well.  Thanks dude.


His defense had no choice but to improve.  It was awful.  Hence the reason Beasley sat the bench the entire year.

May 05, 2009, 06:13:38 PM
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Sat on the bench the whole year except when he got on the floor and outscored most of the starters.

May 05, 2009, 06:17:28 PM
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Thanks for posting an article that says his defense has improved greatly.  Chalm's starts over a guy who wouldn't be a bench player for the clippers, whatever excuse spo gives is irrelevant to most observers.

You've rested my case as well.  Thanks dude.


His defense had no choice but to improve.  It was awful.  Hence the reason Beasley sat the bench the entire year.

Thanks for the concession, I'm glad you came over to my side.

May 05, 2009, 07:06:46 PM
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May 05, 2009, 07:11:46 PM
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"So far, the Heat has three starting positions filled: Wade at shooting guard, Beasley at power forward and Jermaine O'Neal at center. To his credit, Mario Chalmers has exceeded expectations and filled in admirably in his rookie season. But he is not a starter on a team that wants to return to prominence. Riley will need to look for a veteran ball-handler who can relieve tremendous pressure off of Wade."

I guess Chalm's defensive breakdowns in the playoffs have made his bench player title permanent.

May 05, 2009, 08:29:28 PM
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Thanks for pointing out that big men get more blocks and rebounds than point guards.  First of all, it's not disputable that Mario Chalmers starts because of his defense.  It's not disputable that Mario Chalmers is top 5 in the NBA in steals as a rookie.   Second, it's widely documented that the reason Michael Beasley didn't start for the Heat was because of his lack of defense.  See it for yourself.

chalmers starts on a team desperate for a pg

May 05, 2009, 09:02:00 PM
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As I said earlier in this thread, Beasley needs to get the frack out of miami. I like the OKC deal FWIW. His D has improved and any coach with a brain would put him out there just for the points because he gets a crap ton when he gets to play. Also, WHO GIVES A FLYING frank ABOUT MARIO frankING CHALMERS?!

Edit:Trying to beat the server without using the traditional frank or frank or frank

Edit: Stop being a jerk, mmmkay ?
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May 05, 2009, 11:10:11 PM
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great q and a from someone no more qualified than having been the beat writer for the heat all year long... covering all the practices, meetings, interviews, games and pressers...

...in marios defense

Q: I think Chalmers just needs to work on his footwork defensively and his 3-point shot on offense. He's not going to be a playmaking point guard with Wade, J.O. and Beasley creating for themselves and others. -- Jason.

A: Good points. Mario is who he is. Just as Damon Jones worked alongside Dwyane, so can Mario -- as long as his ability is not overstated. Almost no NBA team has five sure-fire answers in its starting lineup. What Mario is, is good enough for this team at this stage.


...a slap of reality re: mario

Q: Am I the only person in the country who can see that Chalmers is the best "defensive" rookie PG since The Glove? -- Kamo.

A: Yes, you are. Don't equate steals with defense. Even as a neophyte, Gary Payton could man up against his cover, instead of reaching for steals and leaving his position exposed.


...and a priceless question re: this years rookie performance of the top picks

Q: Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley are transported to Chicago at the beginning of this season as coach and president, respectively, for the Bulls. Would Derrick Rose be the starting PG for the entire season or would he be backing up Kirk Hinrich? -- JoJo.

A: Wow, that's a great, great, great question. Usually, I'm not at a loss for answers (I try to provide five good ones seven days a week). But, wow, this one really got me thinking. You know, I don't know. I see the point you're making, and, yeah, to be honest, they probably would have played Derrick off the bench with a suitable veteran available in the rotation. So far, we have our winner for Question of the Year.

Yes, it got me thinking whether this whole veteran-oriented culture might be a bit too over the top. As many of you have pointed out, why push so hard for a top lottery pick in 2008 and then pull back the reins once that once-in-a-decade prospect arrives?

Had Derrick Rose been drafted by the Heat, of course he would have started, because Mario Chalmers started. But, yes, I'm not sure that if Kirk Hinrich was in the same backcourt whether that would have been the case.

Which team was right with its approach? Coming seasons will tell, as will the maturity of the Rose and Beasley.


...which makes ME think mike did about as well as he could with his situation AND i'm still leaning toward thinking he'll be moved this off-season
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May 06, 2009, 12:25:59 PM
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Thanks for pointing out that big men get more blocks and rebounds than point guards.  First of all, it's not disputable that Mario Chalmers starts because of his defense.  It's not disputable that Mario Chalmers is top 5 in the NBA in steals as a rookie.  Second, it's widely documented that the reason Michael Beasley didn't start for the Heat was because of his lack of defense.  See it for yourself.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/43164242.html?page=2&c=y

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Only nine months ago, shortly after Miami took him on draft night, Beasley made his NBA summer league debut without knowing anything about defense at the pro level. Offense came easily, since that's all he'd ever known. But to get into the rotation — especially in Miami, where defense is the top priority — he needed to learn how to defend.
"I needed to learn a lot," Beasley acknowledged.

So he worked and studied, then worked and studied some more. And soon, the rest of the NBA started taking notice in what Miami had in Beasley.

"That's part of learning the game, getting familiar with the league," Pistons coach Michael Curry said. "You knew right away this kid was going to be a scorer in this league and a rebounder. He was going to do those two things and he does them at a high level. I think defensively, in understanding the NBA game, he's gotten much better."

As Beasley started figuring out the defense, Spoelstra's confidence in him grew. With that came more playing time, and with that came even more respect from teammates in the locker room.



I rest my case.

Nice of you to "neglect" to mention the first page of that article.

Over a nine-day stretch, he scored 25 points against New Orleans, 23 at Boston, a career-best 28 points (with 16 rebounds) against New York, 23 points at Atlanta and then had 22 in just 19 minutes of Wednesday's finale against Detroit.

"Michael's probably the most confident guy in that room right now," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "I don't know if it's naivety right now for what's coming. He still has a ways to go with things, but in a lot of ways, things are slowing down for him and I think that's where his confidence is coming from. He's not as confused. He's not as stressed out. He's not as bewildered defensively."

In other words, he's finding a groove.




May 06, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
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Thanks for pointing out that big men get more blocks and rebounds than point guards.  First of all, it's not disputable that Mario Chalmers starts because of his defense.  It's not disputable that Mario Chalmers is top 5 in the NBA in steals as a rookie.  Second, it's widely documented that the reason Michael Beasley didn't start for the Heat was because of his lack of defense.  See it for yourself.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/43164242.html?page=2&c=y

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Only nine months ago, shortly after Miami took him on draft night, Beasley made his NBA summer league debut without knowing anything about defense at the pro level. Offense came easily, since that's all he'd ever known. But to get into the rotation — especially in Miami, where defense is the top priority — he needed to learn how to defend.
"I needed to learn a lot," Beasley acknowledged.

So he worked and studied, then worked and studied some more. And soon, the rest of the NBA started taking notice in what Miami had in Beasley.

"That's part of learning the game, getting familiar with the league," Pistons coach Michael Curry said. "You knew right away this kid was going to be a scorer in this league and a rebounder. He was going to do those two things and he does them at a high level. I think defensively, in understanding the NBA game, he's gotten much better."

As Beasley started figuring out the defense, Spoelstra's confidence in him grew. With that came more playing time, and with that came even more respect from teammates in the locker room.



I rest my case.

Nice of you to "neglect" to mention the first page of that article.

Over a nine-day stretch, he scored 25 points against New Orleans, 23 at Boston, a career-best 28 points (with 16 rebounds) against New York, 23 points at Atlanta and then had 22 in just 19 minutes of Wednesday's finale against Detroit.

"Michael's probably the most confident guy in that room right now," Heat coach Erik Spoelstra said. "I don't know if it's naivety right now for what's coming. He still has a ways to go with things, but in a lot of ways, things are slowing down for him and I think that's where his confidence is coming from. He's not as confused. He's not as stressed out. He's not as bewildered defensively."

In other words, he's was finding a groove.




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According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins

May 06, 2009, 05:37:48 PM
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Pointing out the facts on scoring (you see that's what the discussion with jayhawks was about . . . but I know you can't comprehend $hit Bentard) has something to do with Defense and a circle jerk??

always so angry

Not angry . . . just tired of his tardness chiming in on every little thing.


I see.  I do not watch the NBA so forgive my lack of knowledge.  Just reading it sounds like Mario had a pretty decent year for what was expected of him.  Sounds like Beas had a great year. Bottom line they are both sitting at home right now cause of d-wade giving up. (from what JT The Brick tells me)


JT the Brick is an idiot...in the Drew Gooden stratosphere of idiocy...

May 07, 2009, 08:28:45 PM
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Pointing out the facts on scoring (you see that's what the discussion with jayhawks was about . . . but I know you can't comprehend $hit Bentard) has something to do with Defense and a circle jerk??

always so angry

Not angry . . . just tired of his tardness chiming in on every little thing.


I see.  I do not watch the NBA so forgive my lack of knowledge.  Just reading it sounds like Mario had a pretty decent year for what was expected of him.  Sounds like Beas had a great year. Bottom line they are both sitting at home right now cause of d-wade giving up. (from what JT The Brick tells me)


JT the Brick is an idiot...in the Drew Gooden stratosphere of idiocy...
maybe, but he's entertaining
According to ku police reports, the fight involved as many as 100 people.
“We’re pretty sure an incident occurred,” said Capt. Schuyler Bailey, ku Public Safety Officer
“We will handle any discipline regarding this incident internally, and we will have no further comment about it.” Perkins