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February 20, 2006, 09:01:12 AM
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I listened to Kevin Harlan and I think he made a valuable point in analyzing our imminent coaching search.  The biggest knock on mid major coaches is the fact that regardless of what even MVC fans say, there is a BIG difference in recruiting to a "mid-major" school and a BCS school.  I still rank success as a head coach as very high, but I think we must also look at where some of these guys have been in their careers.

Some of the popular names out there seem to be McDermott, Lowery, Capel, Jeter, Hobbs (probably the biggest longshot on the list.).

Of that group, McDermott has certainly had the most sustained success as he's working on his 3rd straight NCAA appearance and he built the program at UNI from the ground up.  However, the biggest knock on McDermott would be that he's never coached at a BCS school and also played at UNI.  Does that mean he shouldn't be considered?  No way, but it certainly has to be factored in.

Lowery is an intriguing prospect, but doesn't have a ton of experience.  This is only his 5th year coaching at a D1 school, 2nd year as a head coach, and he also played at SIU.  He did have one year at Illinois, so he does have a year of experience benig an assistant at a BCS school.

Capel has the major Duke experience as a player, but is maybe the least experienced as a coach.  Only got started in 00 at ODU, then moved to VCU and has experienced some success as their head coach over 4 years.

Jeter is very inexperienced as a head coach, but has been around quite a bit and moved up as an assistant from Marquette to UW Milwaukee, to being the associate head coach at Wisconsin.  He had 4 years of experience there before getting his first job at UW Milwaukee (replacing Pearl) and has them on top of the Horizon League.

Carl Hobbs is IMO the best choice b/c of quality experience building a program (into a Top 10 team) that was a mess at GW after being an assistant at one of the Top 5 programs of the last decade or so.  The biggest knock would be that he's an east coast guy. 

So looking at the list I might revise my earlier projections and put them in this order (for the midmajor candidates):

Hobbs
Jeter
McDermott
Lowery
Capel

Feel free to add others to this list and add or counter point the discussion.

As a proclaimed Woolite, I'm still all for a change.  There is no miracle in store for this team, though I'll admit I'd like to see another 2 or 3 wins and for these kids to get to play a little postseason in the NIT.

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February 20, 2006, 09:13:08 AM
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Great post.  I almost think previous BCS experience (at some level) should be a requirement.

I would throw Blaine Taylor's name in there as well - I'd probably put him pretty close to Hobbs.


I might do this sometime tonight, but I would like to see the comparison between current BCS coach's records at a mid-majors vs. their records at BCS schools.  One or two great years or a deep tourney run is fool's gold, IMO.

February 20, 2006, 09:25:15 AM
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Rusty--

Did you hear Majerus on the Border Patrol this morning?

February 20, 2006, 09:27:32 AM
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Taylor does have a good combination of success as a D1 head coach (Montana, and not building ODU from nothing) and as a BCS assistant (3 years at Stanford in their best years).  Biggest knock on him would be west coast and age.  Again, those aren't eliminators IMO, but factors that must be considered.

Hobbs
Jeter
Taylor
McDermott
Lowrey
Capel

I completely agree on one or two years NCAA runs; see Heath at Arkansas.  I like the guys that have built "from scratch" and turned that into success.  Hobbs, Taylor, and McDermott have shown the best in that category.

February 20, 2006, 09:27:53 AM
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What'd Majerus have to say Baggy?

February 20, 2006, 09:29:07 AM
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Rusty--

Did you hear Majerus on the Border Patrol this morning?

No.  Summary?


Taylor does have a good combination of success as a D1 head coach (Montana, and not building ODU from nothing) and as a BCS assistant (3 years at Stanford in their best years).  Biggest knock on him would be west coast and age.

However, the fact that he's currently winning on the east coast would kind of make me worry less about geography.

February 20, 2006, 09:39:27 AM
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Good point Rusty.

If we can't land Majerus (very doubtful IMO), then I think we have some viable candidates there that we'd realistically have a shot at considering all the factors.

February 20, 2006, 09:42:39 AM
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Good point Rusty.

If we can't land Majerus (very doubtful IMO), then I think we have some viable candidates there that we'd realistically have a shot at considering all the factors.

I looked at Tigerboard, and it sounds like Majerus is dying to get back into coaching and would seriously consider the MU job.  He also mentioned that the relationship with the AD and Prez was very important.  Let's compete with Mizzou!

I also think Andy Kennedy should be considered alongside anyone on your list.

February 20, 2006, 09:50:20 AM
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Kennedy's got a nice range of experience.  Played a year for Valvano, coached at UAB, recruited for Cinci, then the experience of being head coach at Cinci this year.

February 20, 2006, 11:31:49 AM
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The guys asked him about the Mizzou job and if he was interested.

He answered by saying that he was interested in getting back into coaching, but that there were several factors he'd have to consider.  One of them was his Mom, who I guess is in Milwaukee.  Sounded to me like that was the reason he didn't stick with the USC job.  He was pretty guarded, saying that he didn't want to comment too much while Melvin Watkins was still coaching there.

It sounded to me like he was pretty interested in Mizzou, though.  Probably figures he can be pretty close to his Mom there.

February 20, 2006, 11:44:03 AM
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The guys asked him about the Mizzou job and if he was interested.

He answered by saying that he was interested in getting back into coaching, but that there were several factors he'd have to consider. One of them was his Mom, who I guess is in Milwaukee. Sounded to me like that was the reason he didn't stick with the USC job. He was pretty guarded, saying that he didn't want to comment too much while Melvin Watkins was still coaching there.

It sounded to me like he was pretty interested in Mizzou, though. Probably figures he can be pretty close to his Mom there.

Weiser should be calling Meadowlark Hills NOW!!!

I've heard one of the biggest reasons he quit the USC job was a miscommunication about when he could hire assistants:  He considered the current season a lost cause and wanted to hire a couple assistants as full-time recruiters.

February 20, 2006, 12:33:16 PM
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Weiser should be calling Meadowlark Hills NOW!!!
  Meadowlark could be a big assest for us.  Among the best of nursing facilities in the nation!