Official football 2010 Recruiting thread

[dlew12]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

TELL THAT TO UTAH!

[KITNfury]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Do you just make this nonsense up?  Good work ethic w/ a legendary coach that told the hall of fame to F**K OFF is all that is needed.

[MadCat]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Sorry...5 star players are just roster fillers.  The lower stars are the true workhorses.

[Kansas Seminole]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

TELL THAT TO UTAH!

Utah annnnnnnd, um? Utah was a one year wonder. Take away last year and Utah is not mentioned with Florida, USC, Okalhoma & Texas now are they?

[Kansas Seminole]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Do you just make this nonsense up?  Good work ethic w/ a legendary coach that told the hall of fame to F**K OFF is all that is needed.

AGAIN, if your content with being an average football team, then yes what you just said. USC, Florida, Oklahoma, LSU all are full of 5 star players and all have won National tiles recently, and all are contendors every year. UMMMM KSU, NO, not that "legendary coach" and a bunch of 2 stars.

[mcmwcat]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Do you just make this nonsense up?  Good work ethic w/ a legendary coach that told the hall of fame to F**K OFF is all that is needed.

AGAIN, if your content with being an average football team, then yes what you just said. USC, Florida, Oklahoma, LSU all are full of 5 star players and all have won National tiles recently, and all are contendors every year. UMMMM KSU, NO, not that "legendary coach" and a bunch of 2 stars.

lol.  llfbiq there k.s.  all we need again are 'coachable' kids to get back to the championship game.  kids that realy want to be @KSU.   

[Kansas Seminole]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Sorry...5 star players are just roster fillers.  The lower stars are the true workhorses.

Spoken like a true fan of a team with 2 stars at every position.

[PowercatPat]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

TELL THAT TO UTAH!

Utah annnnnnnd, um? Utah was a one year wonder. Take away last year and Utah is not mentioned with Florida, USC, Okalhoma & Texas now are they?

Boise State won a BCS bowl with a bunch of 3 stars and has been a solid BCS contender for a few years now without getting 5 stars. tcu is also a solid program that doesn't get 5 stars.

[Kansas Seminole]

UMMMMMMMM again, Boise St and tcu were in the Title hunt for the BCS National Title Game in all those yea.........WAIT!!! They were never in the hunt.
While both have good teams year in, year out, they are not in the National Title hunt year in, year out. Boise beat OU the year they were close, but again, that was ONE YEAR.

[dlew12]

Can tell Seminole isn't from the midwest.  He clearly doesn't understand that kids who WANT to be at K-state, regardless of talent, are invaluable. Ill take Jordy Nelson over any "blue chip."

[MadCat]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Sorry...5 star players are just roster fillers.  The lower stars are the true workhorses.

Spoken like a true fan of a team with 2 stars at every position.

Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.  Some of K-State's players need to earn stardom yet.  You seem to be a good judge of fanmanship though. 

[Kansas Seminole]

Can tell Seminole isn't from the midwest.  He clearly doesn't understand that kids who WANT to be at K-state, regardless of talent, are invaluable. Ill take Jordy Nelson over any "blue chip."

AGAIN, you can have your Jordy Nelson, but you wont be a year in, year out National Title contendor. If your content with being an average football team, keep trying to get 2-3 stars.

[JTKSU]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Yeah, just ask Miami(Fl), FSU, Notre Dame, UCLA, Arizona, etc about the value of 5* recruits.

[Kansas Seminole]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Yeah, just ask Miami(Fl), FSU, Notre Dame, UCLA, Arizona, etc about the value of 5* recruits.

Ummm, OK, I'll ask them but if you look, Miami, FSU & Notre Dame don't have a lot of 5 stars. And UCLA & Arizona?? WTF?

Arizona has had ONE 5 star since 2002
UCLA has had ONE 5 Star since 2003 
For every Miami & FSU & ND, You have USC, Oklahoma, Texas, LSU.

[JTKSU]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Yeah, just ask Miami(Fl), FSU, Notre Dame, UCLA, Arizona, etc about the value of 5* recruits.

Ummm, OK, I'll ask them but if you look, Miami, FSU & Notre Dame don't have a lot of 5 stars. And UCLA & Arizona?? WTF?

Arizona has had ONE 5 star since 2002
UCLA has had ONE 5 Star since 2003 
For every Miami & FSU & ND, You have USC, Oklahoma, Texas, LSU.

UA and UCLA have perennial top 25 recruiting classes.  ND, UM, and FSU have top 10-15 classes every year.  All of these teams have recruiting classes that are ranked much higher than their actual rankings at the end of the year.   Even the really great recruiting classes (yes, even USC, OU, UT, etc) only have 3 or so 5 star kids.  (A few exceptions, USC did have 8 one year, but OU and UT only had 1 each that year.)  Since 04, there have never been more than 2 teams in the top 25 with more than 3 five star kids.

[Kansas Seminole]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Yeah, just ask Miami(Fl), FSU, Notre Dame, UCLA, Arizona, etc about the value of 5* recruits.

Ummm, OK, I'll ask them but if you look, Miami, FSU & Notre Dame don't have a lot of 5 stars. And UCLA & Arizona?? WTF?

Arizona has had ONE 5 star since 2002
UCLA has had ONE 5 Star since 2003  
For every Miami & FSU & ND, You have USC, Oklahoma, Texas, LSU.

UA and UCLA have perennial top 25 recruiting classes.  ND, UM, and FSU have top 10-15 classes every year.  All of these teams have recruiting classes that are ranked much higher than their actual rankings at the end of the year.   Even the really great recruiting classes (yes, even USC, OU, UT, etc) only have 3 or so 5 star kids.  (A few exceptions, USC did have 8 one year, but OU and UT only had 1 each that year.)  Since 04, there have never been more than 2 teams in the top 25 with more than 3 five star kids.

Do you make this stuff up as you go without doing any research?
Arizona has had 2 top 25 recruiting since 2003. Thats not exactly "perrenial" now is it?
Also, " Since 04, there have never been more than 2 teams in the top 25 with more than 3 five star kids" HUH, you mean like last year when Alabama, LSU & USC all three had 4, 5 star recruits  
Really, do your research before posting instead of just pulling stuff out of your A$$.

[JTKSU]

I think we need some 5*, what do you guys think?

I would take 3 or 4 on a trial basis, but in the end I'd prefer we stick w/ diamonds in the rough with a strong work ethic that really want to be here and be coached by a legend w/ his name on the stadium.

Thats all well and good if you are content with being an average college football team. But if you want to be a title player, you have got to have 5 star players. People that talk up 2 & 3 star players crack me up when they talk about how a couple 3-4 star players make it big and a couple 5 star players don't, but when you really look deep, those teams that get 5 star players are the teams playing for titles.

Yeah, just ask Miami(Fl), FSU, Notre Dame, UCLA, Arizona, etc about the value of 5* recruits.

Ummm, OK, I'll ask them but if you look, Miami, FSU & Notre Dame don't have a lot of 5 stars. And UCLA & Arizona?? WTF?

Arizona has had ONE 5 star since 2002
UCLA has had ONE 5 Star since 2003  
For every Miami & FSU & ND, You have USC, Oklahoma, Texas, LSU.

UA and UCLA have perennial top 25 recruiting classes.  ND, UM, and FSU have top 10-15 classes every year.  All of these teams have recruiting classes that are ranked much higher than their actual rankings at the end of the year.   Even the really great recruiting classes (yes, even USC, OU, UT, etc) only have 3 or so 5 star kids.  (A few exceptions, USC did have 8 one year, but OU and UT only had 1 each that year.)  Since 04, there have never been more than 2 teams in the top 25 with more than 3 five star kids.

Do you make this stuff up as you go without doing any research?
Arizona has had 2 top 25 recruiting since 2003. Thats not exactly "perrenial" now is it?
Also, " Since 04, there have never been more than 2 teams in the top 25 with more than 3 five star kids" HUH, you mean like last year when Alabama, LSU & USC all three had 4, 5 star recruits  
Really, do your research before posting instead of just pulling stuff out of your A$$.

I actually didn't even look at the numbers from '09.  Considering the vast majority of those kids haven't actually made it to campus yet, lots of things can change.  Not saying that any of those kids won't make it to school, but you never know, so that's why I didn't even look at them.  And, I'll admit, UA was probably not the best example.  I just pulled them out of thin air, probably should have done a bit more research.  I didn't realize how much their recruiting has dropped lately.

[yoga-lika_abana]

"I feel real good about all three: ECU, Kansas State, and Kentucky," said Cosh. "All three are special and they're all great schools."


"I have no favorites out of the three," Cosh said of Kansas State, ECU, and Kentucky. "I am going to commit next week."

Will it be us  

[PowercatPat]

"I feel real good about all three: ECU, Kansas State, and Kentucky," said Cosh. "All three are special and they're all great schools."


"I have no favorites out of the three," Cosh said of Kansas State, ECU, and Kentucky. "I am going to commit next week."

Will it be us  

Probably, but I don't think we need him.

[doom]

He has to know he has a better shot at ECU or Kentucky for PT.  We are going to play Harper or some facsimile of that style of quarterback for his entire career.  He's basically a spread qb.  Would love him to come if it brings in his buddy who plays WR.

[KITNfury]

Maybe I'm going all powertardy, but I really like Cosh. I was impressed w/ his vid from I think washington post. I fink we might go to a more spread like offense vs option. Snydes seems smitten w/ UF.

[doom]

Maybe I'm going all powertardy, but I really like Cosh. I was impressed w/ his vid from I think washington post. I fink we might go to a more spread like offense vs option. Snydes seems smitten w/ UF.

 

That is why we spent all spring and summer going after Rollison, Cotton, Graham and every other duel threat with a pulse?  We even stole the USF backup.  Seriously.  But he has a receiver (cannot remember his name, but he was in the video from the local news thing I posted) that is at the same school who lists us.  Might be worth it to have a backup qb and a receiver who are willing to come.  

Here is the video I posted awhile back for reference.  Arundel runs a spread and Cosh seems to love it.  Might make him think twice about his offers.  But he'll probably end up here. 

Did some googling and found this:

http://fr.truveo.com/Recruiting-Spotlight-Arundel%E2%80%99s-Billy-Cosh/id/1288574872

Note the nike elites.     I don't think he would do much for us here as a spread geared qb. 

Also noted his friend being interviewed in the video is Ronnie Harris and lists ksu interest. 

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=96320

[KITNfury]

Maybe I'm going all powertardy, but I really like Cosh. I was impressed w/ his vid from I think washington post. I fink we might go to a more spread like offense vs option. Snydes seems smitten w/ UF.

 

That is why we spent all spring and summer going after Rollison, Cotton, Graham and every other duel threat with a pulse?  We even stole the USF backup.  Seriously.  But he has a receiver (cannot remember his name, but he was in the video from the local news thing I posted) that is at the same school who lists us.  Might be worth it to have a backup qb and a receiver who are willing to come.  

[/quote]
Seems like it's possible for a spread qb to run too, dumbass. I'm willing to be we throw it more than we did last Snyder era, that's all I'm saying, not that we will abandon the option.

[doom]

Maybe I'm going all powertardy, but I really like Cosh. I was impressed w/ his vid from I think washington post. I fink we might go to a more spread like offense vs option. Snydes seems smitten w/ UF.

 

That is why we spent all spring and summer going after Rollison, Cotton, Graham and every other duel threat with a pulse?  We even stole the USF backup.  Seriously.  But he has a receiver (cannot remember his name, but he was in the video from the local news thing I posted) that is at the same school who lists us.  Might be worth it to have a backup qb and a receiver who are willing to come.  

Seems like it's possible for a spread qb to run too, dumbass. I'm willing to be we throw it more than we did last Snyder era, that's all I'm saying, not that we will abandon the option.
[/quote]

Well, Mr. touchy.  you're still wrong.  And he's almost guaranteed bench time should he come here.

[KITNfury]

Maybe I'm going all powertardy, but I really like Cosh. I was impressed w/ his vid from I think washington post. I fink we might go to a more spread like offense vs option. Snydes seems smitten w/ UF.

 

That is why we spent all spring and summer going after Rollison, Cotton, Graham and every other duel threat with a pulse?  We even stole the USF backup.  Seriously.  But he has a receiver (cannot remember his name, but he was in the video from the local news thing I posted) that is at the same school who lists us.  Might be worth it to have a backup qb and a receiver who are willing to come.  

Seems like it's possible for a spread qb to run too, dumbass. I'm willing to be we throw it more than we did last Snyder era, that's all I'm saying, not that we will abandon the option.

Well, Mr. touchy.  you're still wrong.  And he's almost guaranteed bench time should he come here.
[/quote]
Agreed, doubt he'd start as a true frosh.

[doom]

Maybe I'm going all powertardy, but I really like Cosh. I was impressed w/ his vid from I think washington post. I fink we might go to a more spread like offense vs option. Snydes seems smitten w/ UF.

 

That is why we spent all spring and summer going after Rollison, Cotton, Graham and every other duel threat with a pulse?  We even stole the USF backup.  Seriously.  But he has a receiver (cannot remember his name, but he was in the video from the local news thing I posted) that is at the same school who lists us.  Might be worth it to have a backup qb and a receiver who are willing to come.  

Seems like it's possible for a spread qb to run too, dumbass. I'm willing to be we throw it more than we did last Snyder era, that's all I'm saying, not that we will abandon the option.

Well, Mr. touchy.  you're still wrong.  And he's almost guaranteed bench time should he come here.

Agreed, doubt he'd start as a true frosh.
[/quote]

Harper would be here baring injury until his redshirt junior year.  And by then we will have another dual threat guy.  We are not running a spread.  This guy is not an option quarterback.  He'd be a decent backup.  If he is okay with that he should come, if not he should go to ECU.

[Winters]

 

[SuperG]

 

[fatty fat fat]

mccay chatter

http://ouinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116165

GH Sooner     07-15-2009 03:46 PM
Justin McCay
 
Scout has a story on him and he states if he had to choose today what school he would choose. Do you guys have any information on this?

boomersooner    07-15-2009 03:49 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH Sooner (Post 1709641)
Scout has a story on him and he states if he had to choose today what school he would choose. Do you guys have any information on this?
Kansas State. That is what I've been hearing, some say he wants to stay close to home. Supposedly, the highschool coach for McCay's football team didn't get a long with Charlie Weiss. They are out of the picture. OU has a chance if they can get him to go through the whole recruiting proceess, and see what a POS program KSU is right now.

OU would lay a C-note on them.

GH Sooner    07-15-2009 03:51 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by boomersooner (Post 1709651)
Kansas State. That is what I've been hearing, some say he wants to stay close to home. Supposedly, the highschool coach for McCay's football team didn't get a long with Charlie Weiss. They are not out of the picture. OU has a chance if they can get him to go through the whole recruiting proceess, and see what a POS program KSU is right now.

OU would lay a C-note on them.
This is very surprising.

mayski420    07-15-2009 05:23 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by boomersooner (Post 1709651)
Kansas State. That is what I've been hearing, some say he wants to stay close to home. Supposedly, the highschool coach for McCay's football team didn't get a long with Charlie Weiss. They are not out of the picture. OU has a chance if they can get him to go through the whole recruiting proceess, and see what a POS program KSU is right now.

OU would lay a C-note on them.
He named Oklahoma as his favorite.

5sooner5    07-15-2009 05:32 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayski420 (Post 1709837)
He named Oklahoma as his favorite.
In this article?

mayski420    07-15-2009 05:48 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5sooner5 (Post 1709851)
In this article?
Yes. To paraphrase, if he decided today it would definitively be Oklahoma.

drbrizzle    07-15-2009 06:01 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
With all our depth at LB would we still try him at LB or as a receiver?

Spokes    07-15-2009 06:03 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by drbrizzle (Post 1709894)
With all our depth at LB would we still try him at LB or as a receiver?
He's a receiver 100%.

drbrizzle    07-15-2009 06:03 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
After all the issues we had last year it kind of felt funny saying "With all the depth we have at LB."

Message to Brandon Crow: "Shipley is still behind you...wide open." :cry

GH Sooner    07-15-2009 06:05 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayski420 (Post 1709837)
He named Oklahoma as his favorite.
Oh, so he didn't say Kansas State? Thanks.

HeismanWatch    07-15-2009 06:30 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
He is a STUD. McCay and Lucas are just as good as any Top WR prospect in Texas IMHO.

Give me:

McCay
Lucas
White

and I'd be EXTREMELY excited, BIGTIME.

mayski420    07-15-2009 06:46 PM
Re: Justin McCay
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HeismanWatch (Post 1709925)
He is a STUD. McCay and Lucas are just as good as any Top WR prospect in Texas IMHO.

Give me:

McCay
Lucas
White

and I'd be EXTREMELY excited, BIGTIME.
Agree. Lucas is very underrated by the recruiting sites.

[McGrowlTowelZac]

So did he say OU or K-State in the article?