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October 08, 2006, 11:15:25 PM
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Whitlock Caywood, and Jannsen all boldly proclaimed how dumb it was to start Freeman...who will be man enough to admit they're wrong.

For fun, let's look at some samples from their work:

Whitlock:


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More than likely, Freeman is going to struggle today. He’s a big pocket-passer who played in an unsophisticated high school system. He needs time to develop. He’s not the kind of QB who is going to make plays with his legs, improvisational skills or his ability to decipher complicated college coverage schemes.
This is not a knock on Josh — it’s just the reality of being a lumbering pocket-passer from a mediocre high school program. He needs to be surrounded by high-end playmakers and exposure to complex schemes to experience success.

Josh Freeman is a bright kid with all the tools to be a big-time quarterback. However, he’s not Vince Young, a once-in-a-lifetime athlete with the raw athletic ability to make up for a weak supporting cast. And Freeman isn’t Chase Daniel, a kid groomed since age 15 in a college-style offense competing in football-crazy Texas.

A year ago, Freeman played at Grandview High, which isn’t a hotbed for producing college-ready quarterbacks. I’d say the same thing had Freeman played in Tony Severino’s primitive offense at Rockhurst.

Freeman is K-State’s million-dollar baby, and it strikes me as foolish to stick him out on the field with an inexperienced, nickel-and-dime supporting cast.

Caywood:

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It's hard to believe a youth movement will fix any of this in the short term, and while Prince vowed that he was looking no farther into the future than Saturday, it's equally hard to fathom that putting a true freshman at QB and teaming two freshman offensive linemen, a freshman tight end and a freshman running back to protect his right side is a short-term answer.

"At this point, I'm really anxious to see some run-and-hit offensive line play, some run-and-hit offense," Prince said. "That's what I'm used to seeing, and we're going to keep fighting, and we're going to get it."

Right now, that looks like a protracted and uphill fight.


Janssen was the best, so I'll share his entire column:

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Ron Prince constantly talks about being "bold and daring" on the turf.

But any first-play bomb, on-side kick, or wide receiver pass play is nothing more than a quarterback sneak compared to the call the first-year Kansas State football coach made Saturday night.

Josh Freeman is our quarterback for the foreseeable future.

The announcement came within 20 minutes after K-State's 17-3 loss to the Baylor Bears when the Wildcats were meager and lacking as an offense. It marked the first game where KSU didn't score a touchdown since the 26-3 loss to Syracuse at the 2001 Insight.com Bowl.

Saturday, Prince only said he felt K-State had a better chance of moving the ball with his 18-year-old true-freshman than with Dylan Meier, a 22-year-old fifth-year senior.

Monday, he offered a further explanation in saying that the 6-foot-6, 238-pound Freeman had the abilities to use more of the field than the talents of the 6-2, 211-pound Meier.

Bold and daring.

Meier has misfired high and misfired low on his share of passes this year, but the fact is he owns a more than decent completion rate of 51 percent through five games.

Always a threat to run, that option has been taken away from Meier with the Prince package of plays. Meier has kept the ball just six times in five games, with the majority, if not all, of those being scrambles away from a pass rush.

What's been billed as the west-coast offense has made Meier single-dimensional, and the fact is, maybe he doesn't have the talents to be a passer only. But the fact also is, Meier has demonstrated the abilities to be a Big 12 winner as a dual pass-run, run-pass threat.

Bold and daring.

Freeman has always been known as Prince's pet project. Don't believe it? Ask Allen Webb. Don't believe it? Ask Allan Evridge. Don't believe it? Ask Dylan Meier.

In three outings, Freeman has been true on under 30 percent of his passes — 14-of-47 — with four interceptions and zero touchdowns.

While armed with a fancy Friday night resume out of Grandview High School, Freeman has done nothing to demonstrate a concept of defensive coverages on Saturdays.

Bold and daring.

This is a no turning back move.

Through this decision, Prince has announced that he has lost faith, confidence and trust in Meier. Should Freeman have a tough go in the next few games — Oklahoma State, Nebraska, at Missouri — it's going to be a tough sell to the team to give the ball back to Meier.

Bold and daring.

While saying Monday that he's not concerned about making the "popular" move, the fact is the Wildcat players liked the relaxed, fun-loving personality of Meier. At this early-stage, it's only natural for the KSU upper classmen to have a wait-and-see attitude with Freeman.

Bold and daring.

No, make that BOLD AND DARING.

Prince apparently made the announcement of the QB switch to the media before telling his two quarterbacks. Meier made a nice post-game cover for his coach saying "... what's said behind closed doors, stays behind closed doors," but he did act surprised to be hit by questions on his benching.

And, Freeman stated as fact that he had not been told that he was the new starter.

If this is the case, it's a severe communication snafu to go to the media prior to telling the two players in question.

Dylan Meier has invested five years in the K-State program; he has proven himself as a starter; he went through an intense rehabilitation process after reconstructive surgery following the 2004 season.

Dylan Meier deserved to be called over to the Vanier office on Sunday, or even Monday before practice, for an in-office coach-to-player, eye-to-eye explanation.

Bold and daring.

There was a strong possibility that K-State could have petitioned the NCAA to get Meier a sixth season to complete his four years of eligibility in 2007. As it stands, one can't think Meier has any interest in such a notion.

If K-State's thin at QB now, just think what next year will be with only Freeman with an ounce of experience.

Here's wishing Mr. Freeman the best. But Freeman over Meier is the boldest and most daring move Prince has made as coach of the Wildcats.

October 08, 2006, 11:35:12 PM
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Jannsen is a &@#%tard and will never admit that he has no intelligence when it comes to football.

October 08, 2006, 11:38:57 PM
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I must say Whitlock was dead ON with his description of Freeman.

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He’s not the kind of QB who is going to make plays with his legs, improvisational skills or his ability to decipher complicated college coverage schemes.

 :lol:

October 09, 2006, 06:40:58 AM
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They'll wait until later in the year and insist that the team would have been better with Meier.


October 09, 2006, 08:07:28 AM
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I must say Whitlock was dead ON with his description of Freeman.

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He’s not the kind of QB who is going to make plays with his legs, improvisational skills or his ability to decipher complicated college coverage schemes.

 :lol:

Yeah, I liked Whitlock's opinion the most. He proved him wrong on every point on one play.

October 09, 2006, 08:43:32 AM
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NONE.

You don't seriously expect that Whitlock will say he was wrong, do you?

It's hard for me to take any of Whitlock's columns seriously, but that article was a HUGE stretch for him.  Since when is Whitlock some great evaluater of football talent?  I mean, the guy thinks Jeff George is the greatest NFL QB of all time...

Whitlock will spend this week ripping on ku, which is fine by me.

PS - Just noticed that the filter replaces K.U. with JCCC-L.  THAT..IS...AWESOME....
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October 09, 2006, 08:56:14 AM
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The story will be written by Prince and company and what they do as opposed to some literary arm chair quarterbacks. After the Baylor game it was truly all about bold and daring. I must admit it took some nads to change things up the way he did. KSU football team will have it's moments both good and bad throughout the rest of games this season.Hopefully more good than bad.  I have nothing but contempt for those armchair guys who have nothing to lose! Go Cats! :ksu:

October 09, 2006, 09:54:54 AM
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Whitlock probably won't say he is wrong but there is a small chance that he might.  Usually, when someone makes him look like a fool, he dedicates the rest of the season to rag on him/her as much as he can.  Or he just won't ever write about it again.

October 09, 2006, 11:42:31 AM
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Whitlock was hired by the ku star to stir the pot.   Any kind of football "wisdom" is a bonus. 

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